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slimmouse
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| erosoplier wrote: | .
If you think that burning all the oil that ever was - in the space of a few hundred years, on a planet billions of years old - isn't going to do anything, then you've got rocks in your head. |
"All the oil that ever was" ? Where do you get that from ?
I dont have rocks in my head BTW. I know that raping the earth of her lungs and her blood isnt good ( havent you read my posts in this thread ?)
But as I keep arguing, this entire debate is framed within the most ridiculously surreal false contexts.
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erosoplier
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| Quote: | | "All the oil that ever was" ? Where do you get that from ? |
The oil age is roughly 100 years old, we've used roughly half of the conventional oil that is out there, and and we're currently consuming it faster than we ever have. We can't have our cake and eat it too - once it's gone, it's gone.
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An interesting keyword hijacking scenario, kind of (if I may, Hugh):
Seed the idea that the jets are spraying something - a white powder - into the atmosphere. That will distract them and divide them. Some won't believe it, others will. Those that do will become thoroughly alienated from those that don't, and neither group will be so worried about the obvious - the exaust gas spraying program that each and every jet takes part in every time they fly.
Not saying that contrails are totally bogus, but there is no doubt whatsoever that they've taken the focus off of the environmental impact of jets. |
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slimmouse
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="erosoplier"] | Quote: | "All the oil that ever was" ? Where do you get that from ?
The oil age is roughly 100 years old, we've used roughly half of the conventional oil that is out there, and and we're currently consuming it faster than we ever have. We can't have our cake and eat it too - once it's gone, it's gone. |
OK, Eros.
I just want you to try and imagine in superforces - such as the force of nature ( call that "god" if you will). Imagine you are a force of nature that can summon up the neccesary surplus electrons that are flying around, and convert them into what you need.
Sorta like plants do, or we do, when we "grow" new blood.
Hey, someone pricks you and you bleed. And then you drink fluids, and absorb energy and become some kinda alchemist ! And yet, you never felt a thing did you ? 
Now, "supersize" that
Oil is not biotic.
Just like your blood isnt. But of course, if someone is bleeding you faster than you can reproduce blood, then you will die .
Thats my opinion. Think of it what you will. But it is still my firm belief that global warming is being deliberately framed within entirely the wrong contexts.
Meanwhile, is anyone making a fortune out of all of this Global Warming lie ?
I dont mind people objecting to the rape of our planet. It just pisses me off that people cant understand why this rape is so bad. And it has fuckall to do with Co2 emmissions.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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| slimmouse wrote: | | I think what really pisses me off about this "Global Warming " discussion beyond the common sense aspect - I mean as if a few fucking humans can influence GW, |
Your ignorance is laughable: the now 6.5+ billion people on earth and their ancestors since 1850 are estimated to have released 441 billion tons of Carbon (or 441 x10^15grams or 441 000 000 000 000 kg, thats counting fossil fuels (2/3rds) & landuse change, cement manufacture)
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/pns/faq.html
| slimmouse wrote: | | ..rather than the sun , which comprises 99.9% of the mass of this solar system - |
but is 150 million km away, and whose radiance varies relatively little over time.
| slimmouse wrote: | | .. is the whole idea that we dont have readily available alternatives that will put CO 2 emmissions to bed once and for all. |
says you.
| slimmouse wrote: | | Wintler accuses me of not being prepared to do my research. How did you go on with your own research into Browns Gas, and my claims that people can run lawn mowers on water ( prior to being terminated of course) ? |
You dodge the point again - why do you never do any research, provide any substance whatsoever to your textual diarrhea? Browns gas or Oxyhydrogen has well understood uses, but has no magical power to avoid thermodynamics. You want to power your lawn mower with it go ahead, i'll be interested to hear how you power the seperation of water atoms into H2 & O2 onboard the mower (cos you don't want to store or compress the stuff, very explosive & costly).
| slimmouse wrote: | | How about looking at the expansion and contraction of stainless steel when subjected to Solar influence and energy - Remember - that 99.9 % mass of the solar system ? |
you're making this up as you go aren't you?
| slimmouse wrote: | If I have ever seen a truly surreal discussion in the world today, then its this whole GW stuff.
It eclipses the Jesus myth, and 9/11 was 19 Arabs fairy stories by some way, I gotta tell ya. |
Time waster. |
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chlamor
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Major study shows Nuclear Weapons are part of nature too as everything comes from the land.
Say what you want about the "science" behind global warming denialists but please don't say it's science. It's really nothing more than suppositions and postulations with nothing behind it. It's too bad such a simple label got slapped on to a much more complex and widespread problem and also too bad that such an idiot, and venture capitalist, as Al Gore is the front man.
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slimmouse
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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So , according to Wintler, it would appear that
a) you cant run lawn mowers on water.
b) the Sun doesnt actually comprise 99.9 % of the known mass of this solar system.
And even if it did it is a pesky 150million kilometres away.
I shouldnt need to point out to the average intelligence, that this force is travelling through a "relative" vacuum. Whilst that relative vacuum probably saves us from frying, it is as plain as the nose on my face, that their is a frightening amount of surplus power available.
No power left there huh ?
c) that apparently stainless steel cant generate something in the region of 6,500 psi when subjected to computer directed solar energy .
Any scientists on here ( as opposed to denialists like wintler) appreciate the true magnitude of that ?
BTW wintler.
I have been deliberately elusive as to naming my sources. The fact that I know this to be true is all I need to know. Yours is one of the only questions Ive ever refused to answer on here.
And finally
Fuck you.
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chlamor
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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I have been deliberately elusive as to naming my sources. The fact that I know this to be true is all I need to know. |
But what about the rest of us?
Sources are an essential aspect of scholarship. If you are unwilling to provide them you are asking for others to accept your omniscience.
And who would want to even if they could accept the idea of running a lawnmower on water? Might put a bigger dent in the already depleted aquifer in Phoenix.
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slimmouse
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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[quote="chlamor"] | Quote: |
And who would want to even if they could accept the idea of running a lawnmower on water? Might put a bigger dent in the already depleted aquifer in Phoenix. |
I should have added the fact that saltwater would actually aid the process.
Any excess saltwater out there ?
Particularly if the byproduct is water vapour ?
Dont you find it a genuine pity that people cant see beyond the box of conventional science ?
How does that work ?
Bottom line - H2O
The most powerful source of energy available to humanity.
Problem for the usual suspects - its kinda free.
Go figure.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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And who would want to even if they could accept the idea of running a lawnmower on water? Might put a bigger dent in the already depleted aquifer in Phoenix. |
| Quote: | I should have added the fact that saltwater would actually aid the process.
Any excess saltwater out there ?
Particularly if the byproduct is water vapour ?
Dont you find it a genuine pity that people cant see beyond the box of conventional science ?
How does that work ?
Bottom line - H2O
The most powerful source of energy available to humanity.
Problem for the usual suspects - its kinda free.
Go figure. |
You got me there. Of course them there fishies and plankton might like to retain some of that saltwater but certainly any disruptions only require another technological fix, but hey let's remember:
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slimmouse
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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Well , call me a simpleton, but heres how I see it.
Nanotechnology can apparently re-engineer various molecules to shape them for " humanities benefit".
we can fit computer programs into atoms.
And yet for some strange reason we cant re-engineer water to make it easily combustible ?
I guess im just an old cynical fart 
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: Re: PrisonPlanet |
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| slimmouse wrote: | Well , call me a simpleton, but heres how I see it.
Nanotechnology can apparently re-engineer various molecules to shape them for " humanities benefit".
we can fit computer programs into atoms.
And yet for some strange reason we cant re-engineer water to make it easily combustible ?
I guess im just an old cynical fart |
I find it interesting how you leave a space before your question marks and exclamation points. |
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An interesting keyword hijacking scenario, kind of (if I may, Hugh):
Seed the idea that the jets are spraying something - a white powder - into the atmosphere. That will distract them and divide them. Some won't believe it, others will. Those that do will become thoroughly alienated from those that don't, and neither group will be so worried about the obvious - the exaust gas spraying program that each and every jet takes part in every time they fly.
Not saying that contrails are totally bogus, but there is no doubt whatsoever that they've taken the focus off of the environmental impact of jets. |
This makes absolutely no sense. No matter how many times I reread it, it just makes no sense to me. |
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erosoplier
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This makes absolutely no sense. No matter how many times I reread it, it just makes no sense to me. |
Not saying that *chemtrails* [oops!] are totally bogus, but there is no doubt whatsoever that they've taken the focus off of the environmental impact of the exhaust gases of jets, and placed the focus on an unidentified threat instead.
If you earn a lot of money by flying jets all over the place (or by flying in jets all over the place), and it turns out that flying jets all over the place is bad for the place, and it turns out that people are becoming more aware that flying jets all over the place is bad for the place, then it might be in your best interests to make the people who oppose jet planes on environmental grounds look foolish by encouraging the extraordinary belief that there are jet planes up there intentionally spraying bad chemicals into the atmosphere. This makes you, the jet plane mogul, look as if you may well be surrounded on all sides by kooky extremists - environmantalists included.
(Sorry, I said "contrails" when I meant " chemtrails" in the sentence above). |
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populistindependent
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| erosoplier wrote: | | Not saying that *chemtrails* [oops!] are totally bogus, but there is no doubt whatsoever that they've taken the focus off of the environmental impact of the exhaust gases of jets, and placed the focus on an unidentified threat instead. |
Wow I am so glad to hear someone else say that. I work with farmers, and they have been talking about this for years. They are outdoors all day and watching the weather, of course. Over the years the artifical cloud cover from jet contrails has worsened and worsened, and this is definitely having a significant impact on the amount of sunlight getting to the crops. Many of them have made serious efforts to interest environmental groups in this issue, without any success. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| erosoplier wrote: |
Not saying that *chemtrails* [oops!] are totally bogus, but there is no doubt whatsoever that they've taken the focus off of the environmental impact of the exhaust gases of jets, and placed the focus on an unidentified threat instead.
If you earn a lot of money by flying jets all over the place (or by flying in jets all over the place), and it turns out that flying jets all over the place is bad for the place, and it turns out that people are becoming more aware that flying jets all over the place is bad for the place, then it might be in your best interests to make the people who oppose jet planes on environmental grounds look foolish by encouraging the extraordinary belief that there are jet planes up there intentionally spraying bad chemicals into the atmosphere. This makes you, the jet plane mogul, look as if you may well be surrounded on all sides by kooky extremists - environmantalists included.
(Sorry, I said "contrails" when I meant " chemtrails" in the sentence above). |
Thanks for clearing that up.
Chemtrails and contrails are two separate issues. The psy-op in place is that the chemtrails are contrails. Another part of the disinfo is that the chemtrails are for depopulation or something else sinister, while they actually appear to be some warped response to climate change along with efforts to increase budgets for space weapons.
I have yet to see anyone prove that commercial aircraft are creating fake overcasts. On the flip side, there appears to be tons of evidence that chemtrails are the result of covert activities. |
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