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[MacCruiskeen]

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The World will Not End


Carlos Barrios says he was born into a Spanish family on El Altiplano, the highlands of Guatemala. His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam tribe. With other Maya and other indigenous tradition keepers, the Mam carry part of the old ways on Turtle Island (North America). They are keepers of time, authorities on remarkable calendars that are ancient, elegant and relevant.

Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. After studying with traditional elders for 25 years since the age of 19, he has also become a Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide, Eagle Clan.

Years ago, along with his brother, Gerardo, Carlos initiated an investigation into the different Mayan calendars. He studied with many teachers. He says his brother Gerardo interviewed nearly 600 traditional Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge.

"Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios says, "and read the stelas and inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It’s just their imagination...Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed. The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to accurately interpret it, not others."

The Calendars


Mayan comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years.

The calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and based on the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held as sacred.


Mayan Cholq'ij - an image of the Mayan Tzolkin calendar used on the Altiplano. Image courtesy of Saq'be.

With the indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the daykeepers who study the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal as it was called by the Mexica. That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, "coming like a butterfly."

In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 — the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz, Mexico. When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.

In this manner was a new era initiated, an era they had anticipated through their calendars. The Maya termed the new era the Nine Bolomtikus, or Nine Hells of 52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, land and freedom were taken from the native people. Disease and disrespect dominated.

What began with the arrival of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 – a date many people recall as Harmonic Convergence. Millions of people took advantage of that date to make ceremony in sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new era, the World of the Fifth Sun.

From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, we have been in a time when the right arm of the materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace begins, and people live in harmony with Mother Earth. We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition.

As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes. All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars.

"It will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from — and signified by — the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy.

As John Major Jenkins has written in Maya Cosmogenesis 2012, at sunrise on December 21, 2012 — for the first time in 26,000 years — the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic, describing in the sky a great cross of stars and planets. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life — a tree remembered in all the world’s spiritual traditions.

Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration. This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested. "Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate."

If the people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new, higher level. But to get there we must transform enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way.

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[American Dream]

How different this presentation of 2012 is from that of Jose' Arguelles, an early popularizer of Mayan/2012 ideas in "the West" as well as promoter of 1987's Harmonic Convergence event, which kinda flopped, I think.

Jose' Arguelles is smart, articulate, spiritual and... kinda whacked out. I imagine him as the subject of that certain branch of MKULTRA where large quantities of very strong dope and very, very sophisticated propaganda are used in support of inscrutable and long-term social engineering goals...

[MacCruiskeen]

AD, I only really know about it through Terence McKenna. Always found it fascinating, never knew exactly what to make of it - like most people, I suppose.
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[Penguin]

I think this intersects with stuff that Drunvalo Melchizedek and Izhak Bentov have theorized. Especially Drunvalo seems to think this transformation is coming, and speaks in pretty similar terms.

I do consider it possible as well, Ive become to consider the universe as a holographic consciousness myself. And mind as a resonator/transmitter complex - I dont think our minds are really just our minds in whole, rather that consciousness permeates everything - matter is just another form of it. If that is so, then it would be perfectly thinkable that something like this would happen in alignment with the galactic core.

Please notice the conditionals used

The end of the world? End of what world? If a planet explodes in space and nobody hears it, did it explode?
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[MacCruiskeen]

[MacCruiskeen]

Our universe says:

[Avalon]

To know where the center point of something is, you have to be able to measure it. The Milky Way is thought to be about a thousand light years thick. It's of course a conveniently rounded number. There's no particular place where a star has a boundary, and the stars are all moving, so you'd have to make a rough average. You'd also have to decide whether you should count in un-measurable dark matter, since the vast bulk of the universe is made of non-baryonic matter, not the familiar atoms and such that make up the visible universe as we know it.

So looking at the galactic disk, what we'd call the "center" point could be billions of miles wide, with its boundaries constantly shifting. I'd suspect that our sun's position could be within that rough bullseye for years, and to break it down to one day in December, and not the day before or the day after, is pretty pointless.

While it would be groovy to have awesome things happen on that day, I'd settle for men replacing the toilet paper roll and dealing with wet towels, and children doing the dishes without being asked. Higher consciousness has to start somewhere.

[nomo]

[MacCruiskeen]

I bet TV will be totally awesome in 2013.
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[Penguin]

Hahaha..Yep.

I think waiting for a automagickal transcendence to solve all our problems sounds a little too much like baseless faith. Sure itd be nice, but I have a feeling that the spade is still not gonna shovel all by itself... Or the spirit-equivalent of a spade. Shade?

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=18811
Ill crosslink that thread, because I find it fits to this one like a glove.
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[JackRiddler]

[et in Arcadia ego]

Amusingly, Col Tom Bearden's domain registration is timed to expire the exact day at the end of the Mayan Calender.
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[King_Mob]

A fellow named Daniel Pinchbeck has made some interesting videos on the subject of consciousness and 2012. I think they are quite excellent:

2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7NOOBaZBjw

2012 - Consciousness is the Key
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO91uccMbZo


2012 - Gods Other Devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOKsRxcHs7M

[kafor]

Hi all,
I love endtimes speculation. After decades spent in a survivalist mentality, 11 to 12 years involved deeply in the "new age" movement, and a year as a grunt in vietnam, i feel safe to say, "maybe."
let's say they're correct. So What? what if tonight is it, or tommorrow, it doesn't matter.
A comet, a nuclear war, a plasma mass in space, yeah, could happen. in fact, sooner or later it's guaranteed to happen. i could also die in a car wreck or a number of other scenarios, as could we all. Again, so what?
I became pretty unwelcome with some newagers, with this attitude. mainly because i'd ask the question, "ok, so lets say you're right, What are ya gonna do differently, since you know what's gonna happen.
Pray more? Drink more? Screw more.
the only answer I've come up with is to do my best to evolve and grow, and let tommorrow take care of itself.
Having said that, I still love to speculate about it. From 2012,(excellent book by Lawrence Joseph) to mutated atomic monsters, always have, always will.
"Today is a Good Day to Die"
Kafor
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[monster]

I sure like the idea of a consciousness shift better than mass extinction.

A step up to the next level, or some kind of dimensional transformation.

If consciousness is concentrated in the galactic center (a node in the universal consciousness field), maybe by coming in alignment with it is like coming to God's attention. Like a thought that suddenly breaks through to the conscious mind.
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