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barracuda
Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 5206 Location: Niles, California
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: The FBI tried to shut down "Deep Throat". |
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FBI tried in vain to stop "Deep Throat" film
MIAMI (AP) — When the FBI investigated the landmark 1972 porno movie "Deep Throat," the case touched the highest levels of the FBI, even its second-in-command W. Mark Felt, the shadowy Watergate informant whose "Deep Throat" alias was taken from the movie's title.
The FBI documents newly released to The Associated Press reveal the bureau's sprawling and ultimately vain attempt to stop the spread of a movie some saw as the victory of a cultural and sexual revolution and others saw as simply decadent.
Agents seized copies of the movie, had negatives analyzed in labs and interviewed everyone from actors and producers to messengers who delivered reels to theaters.
"Today we can't imagine authorities at any level of government — local, state or federal — being involved in obscenity prosecutions of this kind," said Mark Weiner, a constitutional law professor and legal historian at Rutgers-Newark School of Law. "The story of 'Deep Throat' is the story of the last gasp of the forces lined up against the cultural and sexual revolution and it is the advent of the entry of pornography into the mainstream."
The papers are among 498 pages from the FBI file on Gerard Damiano, who directed the movie and died in October. Released this month following a Freedom of Information Act request by the AP, they are just a glimpse into Damiano's roughly 4,800-page file. More than 1,000 additional pages were withheld under FOIA exemptions and because they duplicated other material; the balance of the file has not yet been reviewed and released.
Many parts of the released files are whited out and the FBI's ultimate targets are unclear, but the seriousness with which the agency treated the investigation is unquestionable.
The file includes memos between the FBI's top men — L. Patrick Gray, William Ruckelshaus and Clarence Kelley, successive heads of the agency after J. Edgar Hoover — and field offices so widespread, it seemed nearly all of the country's biggest cities were involved.
On various entries in the file, a checklist of top FBI brass appears in the top right corner, with initials next to some names. One of those listed is W. Mark Felt, the FBI second-in-command whose "Deep Throat" alias as a Watergate informant came from the movie's title. None of the markings indicate he read any of the materials on the movie whose name became synonymous with his role in bringing down Richard Nixon's presidency. However, former FBI agents interviewed by the AP after the documents were released said Felt almost certainly would have been aware of the huge investigation.
Felt got the double-entendre nickname because he leaked crucial information about Nixon administration corruption on "deep background" to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward. His identity remained a secret until 2005. He died in December.
While much of the probe centered in New York, where many involved in the film lived, and Miami, where it was largely shot, agents from Honolulu to Detroit were involved.
Aside from investigative records tracking subpoenas, interviews, screenings and shipments of the film, the Damiano file includes various FBI agents' play-by-play accounts of the movie's plot, and the specific role of Damiano in the agency's investigation.
The FBI notes Damiano had been "somewhat cooperative," On Aug. 7, 1973, an assistant U.S. attorney general writes to Kelley, saying Damiano is being considered for immunity. The memo doesn't specify the crime, though mentioned throughout the file is the charge of interstate transportation of obscene material.
Among the areas of the case file whited out is an interview with the star of the film, who at the time went by the name Linda Lovelace.
"Deep Throat" achieved fame unlike any pornographic film in history and become the most widely known adult film to reach a general audience. It was hugely profitable — made for about $25,000 and amassing hundreds of millions in receipts — and became a cultural buzzword.
Authorities have long said the movie was made with mafia money — and the FBI has linked the mob with porn over the years — but the file includes no mention of mob links.
Officials at every level of government tried to stop screenings and obscenity trials continued for years. But in the end, experts say, it represents the end of an era in which the government sought to stop the changing cultural tides. _________________ The most dangerous traps are the ones you set for yourself. - Phillip Marlowe |
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Fat Lady Singing
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 450
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: The FBI tried to shut down "Deep Throat". |
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| barracuda wrote: |
The FBI documents newly released to The Associated Press reveal the bureau's sprawling and ultimately vain attempt to stop the spread of a movie some saw as the victory of a cultural and sexual revolution and others saw as simply decadent.
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... and still others saw as simply bad filmmaking.
But seriously, there's a really good, intelligent documentary about the whole phenomenon of the movie and attempts to stop it, including interviews with many of the major players from both sides (and some in between). I believe it's called 'Inside Deep Throat.' They're not afraid to examine the involvement of organized crime, either; it has a particularly compelling set of interviews with what seems to have been one of the main mobsters -- he's become a prototypical irascible old guy whose wife constantly annoys him, but there's this whole weird dark edge to it. If you're interested in the topic and in some sociological archeology, if you will, I recommend it. |
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Jeff Site Admin
Joined: 20 Oct 2000 Posts: 6776
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: The FBI tried to shut down "Deep Throat". |
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| barracuda wrote: |
Authorities have long said the movie was made with mafia money — and the FBI has linked the mob with porn over the years — but the file includes no mention of mob links. |
Heckuva job, Hoovy! |
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Truth4Youth
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 792
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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The feds involvement in investigating the Traci Lords scandal is also rather interesting. According to Ginger Lynn Allen in The Other Hollywood (emphasis added in parts):
| Ginger Lynn Allen wrote: | | They [the feds] showed me photographs from almost every single film Traci made. Photos taken from behind the bushes, taken from a car, taken from day one of her filming. Photos taken from the parking lot where I met her. These surveillance photos were going on from day fucking one. This was not an accident - I still don't believe she was underage. |
http://books.google.com/books?id=QVdFJgrtaOoC&pg=PA427&lpg=PA427&dq=%22ginger+lynn%22+%22surveillance+photos%22&source=bl&ots=QI1wg98bkC&sig=anuj-01ak6my1QYvnGQ1ZUZZQD0&hl=en&ei=7yI9SuPSOtuLtgfnvPgP&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
The last sentence is a weird transgression, I don't think there's any denying Traci was underage. BUT the fact that the feds knew what was going on from day one and didn't do a bust immediately... Well, obviously the well-being of an underage girl wasn't the highest priority.
But back on topic.
An interesting cinema tidbit - the profits from Deep Throat would be used to make The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. |
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compared2what?
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 4072
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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For the record: I don't believe that Mark Felt really was Deep Throat.
Also, if you ever come across a copy of Ordeal, by Linda Lovelace, at a garage sale or something, buy it immediately. It's a very, very odd book, and will leave you asking yourself many questions, such as: "WTF?"; or "Did she really just describe teaching Sammy Davis Jr. how to deep-throat her then-husband-and-manager, Chuck Trainor, during one of the dirty-movie-screening nights she says she and her abusive ex had with Sammy 'n' Altovise Davis?"
I don't really know how else to characterize it. Or even exactly on what grounds I'm recommending it. It's not a good or totally reliable book, by any means. Nevertheless. Just buy it, okay? |
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sunny
Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 4289 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| compared2what? wrote: | For the record: I don't believe that Mark Felt really was Deep Throat.
Also, if you ever come across a copy of Ordeal, by Linda Lovelace, at a garage sale or something, buy it immediately. It's a very, very odd book, and will leave you asking yourself many questions, such as: "WTF?"; or "Did she really just describe teaching Sammy Davis Jr. how to deep-throat her then-husband-and-manager, Chuck Trainor, during one of the dirty-movie-screening nights she says she and her abusive ex had with Sammy 'n' Altovise Davis?"
I don't really know how else to characterize it. Or even exactly on what grounds I'm recommending it. It's not a good or totally reliable book, by any means. Nevertheless. Just buy it, okay? |
Will do.  _________________ QUESTION EVERYTHING, for fucks sake |
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streeb
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Also, if you ever come across a copy of Ordeal, by Linda Lovelace, at a garage sale or something, buy it immediately. It's a very, very odd book, and will leave you asking yourself many questions, such as: "WTF?"; or "Did she really just describe teaching Sammy Davis Jr. how to deep-throat her then-husband-and-manager, Chuck Trainor, during one of the dirty-movie-screening nights she says she and her abusive ex had with Sammy 'n' Altovise Davis?"
I don't really know how else to characterize it. Or even exactly on what grounds I'm recommending it. It's not a good or totally reliable book, by any means. Nevertheless. Just buy it, okay?
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Oh, it's a page turner! Same with the sequel, Out of Bondage.
The author of The Complete Linda Lovelace, Eric Danville, who became very friendly with her in the last years of LL's life, has said that Ordeal is essentially all true minus certain devices put there for the sake of page-turnerness. ie Chuck Traynor's missing finger, and its frequent unappearance throughout the book.
Danville says he's was interviewed for Inside Deep Throat but left out of the final cut. And that LL's objections to an unmade screenplay about Deep Throat included the fact that she was depicted listening to the Carpenters when she was actually more of a Led Zep, Vanilla Fudge kind of gal. |
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Hugh Manatee Wins
Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 8506 Location: in context
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:46 am Post subject: |
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The only reason for this spook/AP article is to reinforce the false story that Mark Felt was 'Deep Throat.'
ONI Woodward was being fed from multiple sources and the most likely reason for tagging Felt with 'anti-Nixon' heroics is to cover for the fact that Felt was prosecuted for COINTELPRO crimes.
So the villainous enemy of the Left suddenly becomes the hero of the Left.
This is how spooks mulch their liabilities into assets to achieve multiple birds/stone. _________________ CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
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Disney is CIA for kidz! |
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IanEye
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