by The Omega Man » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:28 pm
Thanks Quentin for the valuable contirbution, I think that it sheds light on some of the more unknown factors in this nomenclature. Sinister Forces Vol. 1 and 2 are definitely on the must get list, queued up with a number of others ahead in priority. I'm also in total accord with you here: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That's not to say that MKULTRA scientists - many from Project Paperclip had some say in naming their work, but I find the hazing nature of Intelligence jargon to be a more likely reason for its designation. After all, many US Military and CIA projects around the time have seemingly random or innocent codenames that bear no relation to the projects actual role.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Like OFTENCHICKWIT for curious example, and you make a valid observation with: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Is this is going on under the Cold War with increasing spy network activity then I find it doubtful that top secret projects would have acronyms and project classifications which the Russians would be able to decrypt such as German acronyms or anagrams.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->. <br><br>1) So to consolidate the findings so far we have a definition of MK that may or may not have a Teutonic origin, but still might have a Latin or homegrown derivation. The possibility of a Germanic Paperclip origin diminished because of possible Soviet intelligence decryption. So the Paperclip brigade wouldn't just leave 'Mind Kontrolle' or any variation of it, just hanging out in the wind like that.<br><br>2) The MK resides in a number of subprojects (DELTA, NAOMI, etc.) that are related within a periphery which seem to always be capitalized and this would suggest an acronym of some kind.<br><br>3) The family of projects all fall in line with psychological manipulation of one or another. Dulles might have named it or Gottlieb for that matter. It's absolutely possible that the murdered Frank Olsen knew of it, as he came into the embryonic stages of it when it was known as Operation Artichoke, which I know for fact was dubbed by Allen Dulles himself. <br><br>4) The paradox of this naming convention also lies in the furtherance that it could have a psychological appellation of some sort.<br><br>5) Are the projects under the onus of the military or intelligence? Or both? I think both and perhaps in this case they're interchangeable. The ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence and a name for a Japanese demon by the way) and Lt. Commander Thomas Narut dovetails in perfectly with MK-DELTA which were the field operations that utilized the research from MK-ULTRA, the Jonestown Operation was an MK-DELTA field op whose cover was blown and cleaning teams promptly dispatched. The Sirhan Sirhan RFK kill was an MK-DELTA op in my opinion as well as the Manson Family incidents directed by Charles "Tex" Watson and not the other Charles.<br><br>As for MJ-12 or Majestic 12, I too have always felt in my gut that it was a contrived name that fell out of an unpublished Ian Fleming novel. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=theomegaman@rigorousintuition>The Omega Man</A> at: 6/7/06 7:31 pm<br></i>