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Drug Blocks Memories

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:56 pm
by timboucher
This just in from the BBC...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4722225.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4722225.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Beta Blockers Block Out Memories</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>A common blood pressure drug could help people who have witnessed traumatic events, such as the London bombings, to block out their distressing memories.<br><br>Cornell University psychiatrists are carrying out tests using beta-blockers, the journal Nature reports.<br><br>The drug has been shown to interfere with the way the brain stores memories.<br><br>Post-traumatic stress disorder affects around one in three of people caught up in such events, and memories can be triggered just by a sound or smell. <br><br> People with PTSD are given counselling, but because it is not always effective, researchers have been looking for alternative therapies.<br><br>However there are concerns that a drug which can alter memories could be misused, perhaps by the military who may want soldiers to become desensitised to violence.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Drug Blocks Memories

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:27 pm
by ZeroHaven
Okee. Cold hands, cold feet, slowed heart rate and increased urination. Sounds like fun! Too bad I won't remember any of it... <br>Maybe it would help in PTSD after the fact, but for active soldiers the side effects would probably make them useless on the field. Less blood to the brain would probably cause bad aim too <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>Neither <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.drugs.com/propranolol.html" target="top">Drugs.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> nor <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://my.webmd.com/drugs/drug-2930-Propranolol-Hydrochlorothiazid+Oral.aspx?drugid=2930&drugname=Propranolol-Hydrochlorothiazid+Oral#sideeffects" target="top">WebMD</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> even hint at memory loss as a side effect. <br><br> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>

Re: Drug Blocks Memories

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:30 pm
by anon
scopolamine. thats the [amnestic] ticket. <br><br>so youre under the knife. you cant as much as bat an eyelash cause they administered a paralytic like d-tubocurarine - surgeons dont like cutting a patient who is thrashing about. only problem is the anesthetic didnt work. so youre fully conscious and feel EVERYTHING. can you say major lawsuit? and then....amnestic to the rescue! <br><br>anesthetiologists got some screwed up shit in their bag of tricks.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

scopolamine

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:19 pm
by Dreams End
Thanks, anon. I think that is the name of the drug I was curious about. Think about a drug that erases memories and compare to the sorts of stuff that gets discussed here. Really frightening. <p></p><i></i>

re: beta blockers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:26 pm
by hanshan
<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Post-traumatic stress disorder affects around one in three of people caught up in such events, and memories can be triggered just by a sound or smell. <br><br>However there are concerns that a drug which can alter memories could be misused, perhaps by the military who may want soldiers to become desensitised to violence.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>clever bait & switch; the end-user is for the folks who <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>seen & heard </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> too much; for whom it's too inconvenient to dispose of; y'know, like the date-rape<br>drug for assassination teams.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: re: beta blockers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:54 pm
by timboucher
yeah its like that stick they have in men in black that makes people forget shit. imagine if they could spray this stuff into the air!<br><br>rense has a crazy article about scopolamine related crimes in colombia:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/general38/frug.htm">www.rense.com/general38/frug.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>my favorite is the women who smear it on their nipples and then get their victims to take a lick... thats like something out of the Oddyssey <p></p><i></i>

re: like that stick they have

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:05 pm
by hanshan
<br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>wild in the streets</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>don't go in much for rense;reading him<br>is kinda like<br>dating John Waters. Before Pink Flamingos. <p></p><i></i>

re: like that stick they have

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:23 pm
by anon
"don't go in much for rense;reading him<br>is kinda like<br>dating John Waters. Before Pink Flamingos"<br><br>like "multiple maniacs" era john waters? back then his bag of tricks was weirder than the anesthesiologists.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

re: blended in black

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:29 pm
by hanshan
<br><br>yeah....<br><br>but ever'thin' has it's season<br><br>Ecclessiatics bk3/chp.3<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>birds on acid</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>Waters morphs Poe/Lovecraft<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>eh. It's all theatre</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>