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forget mind control,think transcranial magnetic stimulation

Postby hmm » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:04 pm

I noticed this while reading a interesting article about "blindsight" a "sixth-sense" recognised by science.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=2176562005">news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=2176562005</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Scientists prove blind people can 'see' with sixth sense<br><br>RHIANNON EDWARD<br><br>THE uncanny ability of blind people to "sense" unseen objects has been demonstrated for the first time in sighted volunteers whose vision was blanked out by scientists.<br><br>The findings suggest "blindsight", which has been observed in blind people whose eyes function normally but who have suffered damage to the brain's visual centre, is a real and not imagined phenomenon.<br>~snip~<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Scientists from the University of Houston in Texas, temporarily blinded a group of 12 volunteers by using an electromagnetic field to shut down the primary visual cortex</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Images were then flashed in front of them on a screen."<br><br>this seemed interesting to me so i did a little digging..<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.news-medical.net/?id=14198">www.news-medical.net/?id=14198</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Brain has more than one pathway along which visual information can be sent<br>Medical Research News<br>Published: Tuesday, 1-Nov-2005<br><br>Visual information can be processed unconsciously when the area of the brain that records what the eye sees is temporarily shut down, according to research at Rice University in Houston.<br>~snip~<br>For the study, the researchers induced temporary, reversible blindness lasting only a fraction of a second in nine volunteers with normal vision. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), a harmless noninvasive technique using brief magnetic pulses</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, was applied to the volunteers' visual cortex -- the area at the back of the brain that processes what the eye sees - to interrupt the normal visual pathway"<br><br>and from the wiki on TMS<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tra...timulation</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"TMS as therapy<br><br>TMS is currently under study as a treatment for severe depression, auditory hallucinations, migraine headaches and tinnitus. It is particularly interesting as it may provide a viable treatment to certain aspects of drug resistant mental illness, particularly as an alternative to electroconvulsive therapy. TMS is also under investigation for the treatment of drug-resistant epilepsy.<br><br>Although research in this area is in its infancy, there is now strong evidence that TMS is an effective treatment for both depression and auditory hallucinations, with more symptoms and disorders being researched. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>There is also experimental evidence that TMS may be used to temporarily induce particular mental skills</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, much like those of an autistic savant."<br><br>and from a abstract of a article on this experimental evidence<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.worldscinet.com/jin/02/0202/S0219635203000287.html">www.worldscinet.com/jin/0...00287.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"The astonishing skills of savants have been suggested to be latent in everyone, but are not normally accessible without a rare form of brain impairment. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>We attempted to simulate such brain impairment in healthy people</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> by directing low-frequency magnetic pulses into the left fronto-temporal lobe. Significant stylistic changes in drawing were facilitated by the magnetic pulses in four of our 11 participants."<br><br>who needs icke and rense when we have information like this out there in the open?<br><br>erowid on transcranial magnetic stimulation:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.erowid.org/spirit/devices/devices_article1.shtml">www.erowid.org/spirit/dev...cle1.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>blindsight itself is also interesting as it is suggested this might explain how subliminal messages are processed in the brain. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hmm@rigorousintuition>hmm</A> at: 11/1/05 9:08 am<br></i>
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Re TMS research: "This Is Your Brain on God"

Postby hmm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:18 pm

from the erowid article mentioned earlier:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Pioneering TMS researcher Michael Persinger, a neuropsychologist at Canada's Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, is doing even more astounding work. By stimulating specific areas in the right hemisphere of the brain, he is able to induce mystical states of consciousness, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>giving some subjects the experience of encountering God</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>from a (5 page) article in wired magazine 1999:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://wired.com/wired/archive/7.11/persinger.html?pg=1&topic=&topic_set=">wired.com/wired/archive/7...topic_set=</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Issue 7.11 | Nov 1999<br><br>This Is Your Brain on God<br><br>Michael Persinger has a vision - the Almighty isn't dead, he's an energy field. And your mind is an electromagnetic map to your soul.<br>~snip~<br>His theory is that the sensation described as "having a religious experience" is merely a side effect of our bicameral brain's feverish activities. Simplified considerably, the idea goes like so: When the right hemisphere of the brain, the seat of emotion, is stimulated in the cerebral region presumed to control notions of self, and then the left hemisphere, the seat of language, is called upon to make sense of this nonexistent entity, the mind generates a "sensed presence."<br><br>Persinger has tickled the temporal lobes of more than 900 people before me and has concluded, among other things, that different subjects label this ghostly perception with the names that their cultures have trained them to use - Elijah, Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Mohammed, the Sky Spirit. Some subjects have emerged with Freudian interpretations - describing the presence as one's grandfather, for instance - while others, agnostics with more than a passing faith in UFOs, tell something that sounds more like a standard alien-abduction story.<br>~snip~<br>Technically speaking, what's about to happen is simple. Using his fixed wavelength patterns of electromagnetic fields, Persinger aims to inspire a feeling of a sensed presence - he claims he can also zap you with euphoria, anxiety, fear, even sexual stirring. Each of these electromagnetic patterns is represented by columns of numbers - thousands of them, ranging from 0 to 255 - that denote the increments of output for the computer generating the EM bursts.<br><br>Some of the bursts - which Persinger more precisely calls "a series of complex repetitive patterns whose frequency is modified variably over time" - have generated their intended effects with great regularity, the way aspirin causes pain relief. Persinger has started naming them and is creating a sort of EM pharmacological dictionary. The pattern that stimulates a sensed presence is called the Thomas Pulse, named for Persinger's colleague Alex Thomas, who developed it. There's another one called Burst X, which reproduces what Persinger describes as a sensation of "relaxation and pleasantness."<br><br>A new one, the Linda Genetic Pulse, is named for my psychometrist, Linda St-Pierre. Persinger says St-Pierre is conducting a massive study on rats to determine the ways in which lengthy exposures to particular electromagnetic pulses can "affect gene expression." <br>~snip~<br>When I bring this up later with Persinger, he tells me that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the machine's effects differ among people, depending on their </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->"lability" - Persinger jargon meaning <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>sensitivity or vulnerability</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br>"Also, you were in a comfortable laboratory," he points out. "You knew nothing could happen to you. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>What if the same intense experience occurred at 3 in the morning in a bedroom all by yourself? Or you suddenly stalled on an abandoned road at night when you saw a peculiar light and then had that experience? What label would you have placed on it then?"<br><br>Point taken. I'd probably be calling Art Bell once a week, alerting the world to the alien invasion. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: forget mind control, subliminal messages

Postby hmm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:33 pm

if the theory is correct and this explains that subliminal messages do really get through to the brain consider this:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.lawpublish.com/subliminal2.html">www.lawpublish.com/subliminal2.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>SUBLIMINAL ADVERTISING BECOMES ISSUE IN 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION<br><br>DEMOCRATIC SENATORS SEEK FCC REVIEW OF "SUBLIMINAL" AD<br><br>On September 13, 2000, two U.S. Senators, Ron Wyden, D-Oregon and John Breaux, D-Louisiana, requested the Federal Communications Commission to provide an "immediate and impartial" review of the Republican National Committee's allegedly "subliminal" "RATS" ad. The Senators reportedly told FCC Chairman William Kennard that a review of the controversial ad would be in "the best interests of both political parties, and all Americans."<br><br>It had been shown that when the ad was slowed down, the word "RATS" appeared briefly while a voiceover criticized Vice President Al Gore's prescription drug plan as one in which "Bureaucrats Decide." Republican presidential nominee, George W. Bush, told reporters that he believed the appearance of "RATS" in the advertisement was accidental. Indeed, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Governor Bush said that he was "convinced" that the advertisement was not meant to send a subliminal message.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The so-called "RATS" ad had run over 4,000 times in 33 markets nationally for about two weeks. The ad reportedly cost the RNC over $2.5 million. The ad has been pulled from the airwaves.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/americas/2000/us_elections/election_news/923335.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_de...923335.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Wednesday, 13 September, 2000, 18:02 GMT 19:02 UK<br>RATS ad: Subliminal conspiracy?<br><br>By BBC News Online's John Egan<br><br>George W Bush may have dismissed the controversy as "weird and bizarre", but there is no doubt that the Republican presidential candidate has been wrong-footed by one of his own campaign adverts.<br><br>The 30 second TV advertisement, which deals with who should pay for prescription drugs for the elderly, contains the word "rats" alongside images of Vice-President Al Gore, the ad shows fragments of the slogan "Bureaucrats decide". "RATS" is flashed for a split second, before the complete word "bureaucrats" appears.<br>~snip~<br>Renowned as a maker of attack ads for political campaigns, Mr Castellanos claimed initially that the use of the word was "purely accidental".<br><br>By Wednesday he had admitted that the word "rats" was "a visual drumbeat designed to make you look at the word bureaucrats."<br><br>Mr Bush's protests that the word was not intentionally placed in the advert have been questioned by media analysts.<br><br>Rat attack<br><br>"The word is so carefully superimposed. It's not like it just randomly appears on the screen," says Darrell West, an expert on political advertising at Brown University. <br> Lynn Vavreck, from the Department of Political Science at Dartmouth College agrees. "Somebody made this frame specifically. You can see the word is in a larger font and comes on top of the previous text."<br>~snip~<br>The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has been asked to investigate whether the TV advert amounted to deliberate, deceptive and subliminal advertising.<br><br>Although <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>it is not strictly illegal</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, in 1974 the FCC adopted a policy saying that subliminal advertising was contrary to the public interest.<br>~snip~<br>Bill Benoit, who studies political advertising at the University of Missouri agrees. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"There is no conclusive research evidence that subliminal advertising works. Of course that doesn't stop advertisers,"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> he says.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>well now that we do have some evidence as to why it might work?<br>and we know it is not illegal? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re TMS research: "This Is Your Brain on God"

Postby slimmouse » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:03 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Technically speaking, what's about to happen is simple. Using his fixed wavelength patterns of electromagnetic fields, Persinger aims to inspire a feeling of a sensed presence - he claims he can also zap you with euphoria, anxiety, fear, even sexual stirring. Each of these electromagnetic patterns is represented by columns of numbers - thousands of them, ranging from 0 to 255 - that denote the increments of output for the computer generating the EM bursts<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Fascinating. <br><br> But of course as anyone can easily see, DNA is kinda the perfect shape for a transistor/ reciever. Which of course is what others have known for a lot longer than most.<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Rather makes you wonder, why on earth people cant use this kinda knowledge for the benefits of civilisation, than for their poisoning and ongoing subjugation huh ?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re TMS research: "This Is Your Brain on God"

Postby hmm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:17 pm

yes it is fascinating,<br>and we are ever more surrounded by electromagnetic "random noise",imagine the effect this could be having.<br>the only problem i see from a practical longrange-mindcontrol point of view is that one would need a huge transmitter to transmit the signal over a large distance,and because a small signal is enough to effect your brain over shorter distances those close to the transmitter would have "fried" brains.<br><br>i do remember reading of a microwave non-lethal weapon that used two microwave transmitters whos individual beams were harmless and only painful at the point the two beams intersected.<br>not sure how well this would transfer to TMS though?<br>which would leave the "mindcontrollers" with a few problems such as how to keep the beams intersecting perfectly while the target moves about.<br><br>i have been breaking my head over this for some time:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Rather makes you wonder, why on earth people cant use this kinda knowledge for the benefits of civilisation, than for their poisoning and ongoing subjugation huh ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>and..<br>its men!<br>there is something wrong with them..<br>(as a man i can say that and get away with it?) <p></p><i></i>
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