by havanagila » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:19 am
thanks SW, cute article, and so true, except i don't believe in applying mental conditions to politics, that's making it way to easy on people...<br><br>---<br><br>I am surprised people are surprised here...what did I say so striking ?<br>the american drug companies and the more notorious agencies are present here more than any other place (except canada maybe, which is a neighbour), and are doing their thing. One might be slightly surprised that Jews will go along with these practices, against other Jews, but then really, are Jews supposed to be saints or better than others ? even in terms of racism, the fact that jews were victims of such does not make them less racist vis a vis other groups (see, the collaboration with South Africa appartheid etc.). In fact, I would imagine that being a victim, if anything, makes one more susceptible to victimize others. again SA. But the notion is disturbing, i agree, which is why I wrote about it. I find it extremely distasteful that certain psychiatrists for instance, or military scientists, cooperate in unethical experimentation for drug companies (US based) or US army, darpa and what not -- using unwitting Israelis for guineapigs. Especially, since I believe those in charge over these bodies have some NAzi affiliations as we know and their goals are not devoid of racial curiosity, re Jews in particular. I also find it amazing, but so human, that many Israelis adore Germans and german culture, to date, and even NAzis, or Nazi practices. I suppose this is life. part of it is internalization of the inferiority (and reaction formation, projection of the "good parts" on the perp), and the other part is simply that there are very bad Jews as well, who would collaborate with evil practices. You find that in any situation of dominance. But I agree that this one is extreme, because the Nazi specifically hated Jews, one would expect Jews to really not like that. <br>My stand on it, is that Jews or Israelis who act as Nazis, should be treated as such, and that's that. Without making further generalizations for better or worse. <br>---<br>On deeper levels, I think the attraction of Jews to this s/m practice with Nazis is in fact something similar to DID, on national terms, namely, a problem of identity. The two parties are together looking for the "essentialist component" of being Jewish, at the expense of the Jewish partners. I think this is sick, but perhaps the Jewish nation did not yet devise national practices to deal with deep identity issues in modern times. (a religion ? a race ? a nationality ? blah blah). This is where I become concerned with notions such as "the Nine" which resonate, (IMO), with Nazism at its pure form. <br><br>--<br>A few years ago there was an expose in the MSM here about horrific experiments conducted post October war, on shell shocked soldiers, with the "truth serum" (amital something). There were some testimonies, and the doctors said things like "for the first time we pinpointed and FOUND the JEWISH SOUL" that was in connection to the stuff that came out of these poor drugged to death soldiers, who probably had hallucinations. When I read the Nine bs, it resonated with such foolish and dangerous attempts to "extract essence" of being "jewish". One doctor committed suicide during those experiments, and it was his widdow who blew the whistle and made this expose (belatedly, that was 30 years after the fact). <br><br>here, I share a dream I once had, during my ordeals, that I am being held captive by Hitler himself, who is torturing me, and trying to rape me all the time, when suddenly he tells me that he is doing it in order to "extract the hebrew letters"from my body, so he can have them or understand them. So I am telling him, well, no need to use force, here they are...and I "spill all the beans", and hebrew letters come out of my body.<br><br><br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
