mind control related movie #1? ~ Return from Witch Mountain

[anotherdrew]

anyone remember this or saw it lately? I just watched it again for the first time in several decades. Very influential when I was a kid, but almost completely forgotten about for a long time. check it out, it's Disney + Christopher Lee + oh so much more... Lee plays "Professor Gannon" btw...<br><br><br>a quote from Prof Gannon: "you will now function exclusivly under control... you will no longer think independantly, all thinking and reasoning will be done by the voice that commands you. do you understand?"<br><br>his lab has at least one caged goat too <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 4/9/06 3:00 am<br></i>

[NewKid]

And don't forget this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Christopher Lee, who co-starred with Davis in Poor Devil (Lee played Lucifer) was also a target for recruitment. Aquino writes that he'd been a fan, and had believed Lee to be a "behind-the-scenes backer of the 'satanic' movement." Until he read these comments from the actor in a March 1974 interview: <br><br>I am absolutely certain that there are thousands upon thousands of people today actively using black magic to get what they want. I'm sure they're responsible for much of the bad in the world, such as the wars in the Middle East [and] political corruption.... Black magic has a church-like hierarchy with leaders who want power over people. At the bottom are people who get conned into devil worshipping because they're lonely, insecure, or frustrated.... <br><br>My roles in horror films brought me into contact with people who furthered my occult knowledge. I feel very much that it's my responsibility to persuade people to turn away from black magic...and I think my movies do just that by showing the true horror of evil.<br><br>"Some 'movement' supporter!" writes Aquino.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/04/candy-man-did.html" target="top">rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/04/candy-man-did.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[IanEye]

The young actor, Ike Eisenmann, had that mid 70's "look" down cold. The look of afterschool specials, Hawaiian Punch, and Tonka trucks. He was also in an episode of the Jeffersons where he played the son of a White Power "David Duke" type as well as a small role in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan. Why do I know all of this? Because anytime I see him in something, I go, "Hey! It's the kid from Witch Mountain!" and just file it away in a part of my brain. <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

who seems to have a good number of other interesting books.<br>for instance: Flight to the Lonesome Place '71<br>"What happens when a boy mathematical genius with a computer-like memory finds himself the target of unknown murderers? Like anyone else, he runs! But Ronnie Cleveland can count the people he trusts on one finger. And that one, a strange girl named Ana Maria Rosalita, has more than enough troubles of her own."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/alexander-key/">www.fantasticfiction.co.u...ander-key/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://alekeia.tripod.com/books.html">alekeia.tripod.com/books.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>some of his out-of-print books can be read online <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050218020028/http://www.powernet.net/~mbaring/earthlibrary.htm">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[streeb]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The young actor, Ike Eisenmann, had that mid 70's "look" down cold. The look of afterschool specials, Hawaiian Punch, and Tonka trucks. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yes he did - very nicely put. Add to that Jackie Earle Haley in Bad News Bears and Damnation Alley.<br><br>About Christopher Lee - I used to devour sci-fi and horror movie magazines and books when I was a kid, and I remember reading a brutal personal attack on Lee - I wish I could recall where, probably in a magazine called Starburst. It was odd, and not typical of anything that I'd ever found in any of that kind of literature, which was really meant for kids. This was during quite a lull in his career. Since then I've heard nothing but good things about Christopher Lee, but I wonder if he was being smeared a little. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Until he read these comments from the actor in a March 1974 interview: My roles in horror films brought me into contact with people who furthered my occult knowledge. I feel very much that it's my responsibility to persuade people to turn away from black magic...and I think my movies do just that by showing the true horror of evil. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>In 1976, Lee starred in The Keeper, which was directed by T.Y. Drake, whose son is an aquaintance. Drake relocated to Canada from LA in the late '60s, and told a mutual friend that he was concerned for the safety of his family, because of the Manson business. He alluded to involvement with the Process Church, and said something like, "It's much worse than you think. There were a lot more people involved." Make of that what you will. His milieu at the time was the entertainment industry. One day I'll have the balls to ask him about it, but I get the impression that such inquiry wouldn't necessarily be welcome. His son, incidentally (who I respect very much), is the only person I've ever heard argue persuasively FOR aspects of Scientology!<br><br>Witch Mountain - thanks for the reminder. I gotta start thinking about other ubiquitous kids movies and shows from that era. What else have I forgotten about that might now seem significant to the rabbit hole? <br><br>Logan's Run is another interesting one. We could use a Logan right now. <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

streeb - other key shows include: the man from atlantis, fantastic journey (which also stars Eisenman), the tv series of logans run, the tv series of planet of the apes, saturday morning kids show called ark 2 (which used the same vehicle from damnation alley I think), a Roddenbery pilot that didn't take off called "Genisis 2" and it's followup "Planet Earth" (which includes as a plot point the existence of a network of subterrainian high-speed tunnels with various openings to the surface; also this is where a lot of the character names later used in andromeda came from, dylan hunt for one). heck, the six million dollar man has a lot of weird content too. That list is not getting into any of the british TV from the time which would include at least: joe 90 and the rest of anderson's stuff, the tommorow people, and others I've yet to track down.<br><br>==<br>Key's book 'escape to witch mountain' is heavily influenced by and almost perfectly fits into the world of 'the people' stories by Zenna Henderson. Zenna grew up in an LDS community in the south west fwiw, tho she apparently didn't participate with the church much in her adult life.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.adherents.com/lit/bk_Zenna.html">www.adherents.com/lit/bk_Zenna.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>===<br>I've always been trying to find out what the link is between LDS and 'alien' stuff; there seems to be one, but I've not seen any clear link or doctorine like is obvious with scientologists for instance. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 4/9/06 4:14 pm<br></i>

[thoughtographer]

Rose Bowl! <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[HMKGrey]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That list is not getting into any of the british TV from the time which would include at least: joe 90 and the rest of anderson's stuff, the tommorow people, and others I've yet to track down.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>anotherdrew, I'd urge you to look in to a BBC kids serial called <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Changes</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that aired in the early 70's. This is still recalled by many of my peers as one disturbing and surreal piece of kids drama. The basic plot went something like: Young girl living in London suburb is main character. Everything normal. Then there's all these 'noises' in the air that affect the entire population making them destroy all machinery and electrically operated items. Social chaos ensues and, separated from family, she wanders the countryside, hooks up with a few gypsy-types, lives on a canal barge and eventually is sucked in to solving the problem of the recurring 'noises' which are the work of a guy living in a cave. <br><br>Believe me, it made <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Tomorrow People </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->look like um... kids stuff. <br><br>Worth remembering though that back then the Beeb was full of radicalized hippies who'd come out of the public school system and were totally having fun on the licence payers bill. Check out <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Magic Roundabout</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->: <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It has been said the adults may have found a lot more to smile about in the series than merely sitting down to watch television with their little ones. The more 'tuned in' viewers may have discovered certain similarities to 1960s drug culture and references to topical issues and personalities of the day. Dougal was most certainly named after French leader Charles De Gaulle and his favourite food was sugar cubes which, it is pointed out, when laced with LSD is a popular way of taking the hallucinatory drug. Dougal and Ermintrude were said to be comments on French-Anglo relations at the time while the cynical dog's character was based on British comedian Tony Hancock, always known for his cynical hangdog expression. Dylan (based on the American folk singer, Bob Dylan) always appeared 'spaced out', and has been accused of growing something considerably stronger than carrots in his vegetable garden, while the Magic Roundabout itself is supposedly an allegory for 'taking a trip.' And then again, perhaps not. After all, this was 1965 and the pre-psychedelic era, and perhaps the series, like Lennon's Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, just fitted conveniently into the context.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

I've only been able to see the first few episodes of The Changes, need to get back to that... That is a very good show. Children of the Stones is short but sweet too. but for total over the top weirdness "Sapphire & Steel" has to take top billing. oh yeah, the tv adaptation of The Tripods has to be mentioned.<br><br>Never sceen the magic roundabout, sounds interesting, but I've got a copy of the only surviving episode of Animal Qwackers, and of course - they arive each episode in a poorly animated flying saucer...<br><br>Looks like there's a new version of the magic roundabout, a movie: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339334/">www.imdb.com/title/tt0339334/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> staring the voice of Tom Baker even. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 4/9/06 5:05 pm<br></i>

[anotherdrew]

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/pranks/rosebowl.html">The Great Rose Bowl Hoax</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/pranks/images/rosebowl.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[streeb]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://tv.cream.org/">tv.cream.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>TV Cream is peerless for the UK side of things. "Noah and Nelly" was a favourite of mine: 3 minutes of after-school madness from animator Bob Godfrey, about life aboard the Skyl-ark, which was full of two-headed animals. Nelly would typically knit her way out of a situation. No food? Nelly would knit dinner.<br><br>The new and utterly pointless CGI update of "Magic Roundabout" was just released in North America, with voice work re-recorded by Jon Stewart among others. <br><br>Did anybody see the insane, gorgeous BBC production of "Alice in Wonderland", made by Jonathan Miller in 1966? It's incredible. Cast includes Peter Sellers, Peter Cook, Alan Bennett, John Gielgud, John Bird... Seriously - don't wait.<br><br>Jesus - I'm supposed to be working... <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

...And I think I remember; it didn't matter that I was a girl, mine was a football family. It just depended on whether that was shown on one of two stations in Fort Smith, Arkansas. We sure did watch Southeast Conference, though...<br><br>Meanwhile, back at the topic...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I've always been trying to find out what the link is between LDS and 'alien' stuff<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>David Icke has all sorts of stuff about that. I can vouch for the fact that at least one Mormon temple has a secret underground basement, that is not part of the regular church tour. Not only did I see it in construction, while driving the "roach coach", and peered over the edge (where I wasn't supposed to go) while the masons were working, but my son-in-law helped do the tile work. He said there were secret passages and strange drains behind an altar down there in the basement. Sure does agree with what I later read on Icke's site, about reptilians, babies sacrificed, women being used as breeders for same. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[friend catcher]

HMKGrey Is that the one where a weird shimmering sound played over a deserted urban landscape with additional shots of power pylons.? ie that thing that I saw as a kid and scared the shit out of me. I still recall that sound in my head when I see pylons striding across the landscape. I remembered it as an anti nuclear,progress leads us to hell, allegory. I find that seeking to review these visual experiences years later can be dissapointing and the memory of it is far more potent but I will look for it. <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>HMKGrey Is that the one where a weird shimmering sound played over a deserted urban landscape with additional shots of power pylons.? ie that thing that I saw as a kid and scared the shit out of me. I still recall that sound in my head when I see pylons striding across the landscape. I remembered it as an anti nuclear,progress leads us to hell, allegory. I find that seeking to review these visual experiences years later can be dissapointing and the memory of it is far more potent but I will look for it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>that's their adaptation of The Tripods, originally a series of kids books. <p></p><i></i>

[HMKGrey]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>HMKGrey Is that the one where a weird shimmering sound played over a deserted urban landscape with additional shots of power pylons.? ie that thing that I saw as a kid and scared the shit out of me. I still recall that sound in my head when I see pylons striding across the landscape. I remembered it as an anti nuclear,progress leads us to hell, allegory. I find that seeking to review these visual experiences years later can be dissapointing and the memory of it is far more potent but I will look for it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hmmm... could be. But sounds like The Tripods too. Fact is that the BBC showed us some scary shit back then. <br><br>anotherdrew: another good series to look in to (but for grown ups) is the ITV (probably LWT) adaptation of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Quatermass</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. I think it starred John Mills(?). It ran as about a 10-12 week serial again in the mid-late 70's. Had scenes of total social chaos and fed on the idea of ley lines and so on... converging at Wembley stadium in north London. Thousands gathered there, only to be 'melted' by a light from above... this was another really disturbing pre-watershed show. Far darker than <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Dr Who</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> or anything like that. In fact, I was really reminded of it while watching <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>28 Days Later</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> recently. <br><br>Finally, I'm sure you're familliar with <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Survivors</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->..? My brother and I were shunted off to bed right as that came on... <br><br>Sorry if the grown up stuff is off topic. <p></p><i></i>