Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

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Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

Postby emad » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:48 pm

By Andrew Walker <br>BBC News <br><br><br>Sixty years ago the US hired Nazi scientists to lead pioneering projects, such as the race to conquer space. These men provided the US with cutting-edge technology which still leads the way today, but at a cost. <br><br><br>The end of World War II saw an intense scramble for Nazi Germany's many technological secrets. The Allies vied to plunder as much equipment and expertise as possible from the rubble of the Thousand Year Reich for themselves, while preventing others from doing the same. <br><br>The range of Germany's technical achievement astounded Allied scientific intelligence experts accompanying the invading forces in 1945. <br><br><br>Supersonic rockets, nerve gas, jet aircraft, guided missiles, stealth technology and hardened armour were just some of the groundbreaking technologies developed in Nazi laboratories, workshops and factories, even as Germany was losing the war. <br><br>And it was the US and the Soviet Union which, in the first days of the Cold War, found themselves in a race against time to uncover Hitler's scientific secrets. <br><br>In May 1945, Stalin's legions secured the atomic research labs at the prestigious Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in the suburbs of Berlin, giving their master the kernel of what would become the vast Soviet nuclear arsenal. <br><br>US forces removed V-2 missiles from the vast Nordhausen complex, built under the Harz Mountains in central Germany, just before the Soviets took over the factory, in what would become their area of occupation. And the team which had built the V-2, led by Wernher von Braun, also fell into American hands. <br><br>Crimes <br><br>Shortly afterwards Major-General Hugh Knerr, deputy commander of the US Air Force in Europe, wrote: "Occupation of German scientific and industrial establishments has revealed the fact that we have been alarmingly backward in many fields of research. <br><br>"If we do not take the opportunity to seize the apparatus and the brains that developed it and put the combination back to work promptly, we will remain several years behind while we attempt to cover a field already exploited." <br><br>Thus began Project Paperclip, the US operation which saw von Braun and more than 700 others spirited out of Germany from under the noses of the US's allies. Its aim was simple: "To exploit German scientists for American research and to deny these intellectual resources to the Soviet Union." <br><br> <br>Arthur Rudolph: "100% Nazi" <br><br>Events moved rapidly. President Truman authorised Paperclip in August 1945 and, on 18 November, the first Germans reached America. <br><br>There was, though, one major problem. Truman had expressly ordered that anyone found "to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazism militarism" would be excluded. <br><br>Under this criterion even von Braun himself, the man who masterminded the Moon shots, would have been ineligible to serve the US. A member of numerous Nazi organisations, he also held rank in the SS. His initial intelligence file described him as "a security risk". <br><br>And von Braun's associates included: <br><br><br>Arthur Rudolph, chief operations director at Nordhausen, where 20,000 slave labourers died producing V-2 missiles. Led the team which built the Saturn V rocket. Described as "100 per cent Nazi, dangerous type". <br><br>Kurt Debus, rocket launch specialist, another SS officer. His report stated: "He should be interned as a menace to the security of the Allied Forces." <br><br>Hubertus Strughold, later called "the father of space medicine", designed Nasa's on-board life-support systems. Some of his subordinates conducted human "experiments" at Dachau and Auschwitz, where inmates were frozen and put into low-pressure chambers, often dying in the process. <br>All of these men were cleared to work for the US, their alleged crimes covered up and their backgrounds bleached by a military which saw winning the Cold War, and not upholding justice, as its first priority. <br><br>And the paperclip which secured their new details in their personnel files gave the whole operation its name. Sixty years on, the legacy of Paperclip remains as vital as ever. <br><br>With its radar-absorbing carbon impregnated plywood skin and swept-back single wing, the 1944 Horten Ho 229 was arguably the first stealth aircraft. <br><br> <br>The Stealth bomber: Based on a 1944 German design <br>The US military made one available to Northrop Aviation, the company which would produce the $2bn B-2 Stealth bomber - to all intents and purposes a modern clone of the Horten - a generation later. <br><br>Cruise missiles are still based on the design of the V-1 missile and the scramjets powering Nasa's state-of-the-art X-43 hypersonic aircraft owe much to German jet pioneers. <br><br>Added to this, the large number of still-secret Paperclip documents has led many people, including Nick Cook, Aerospace Consultant at Jane's Defence Weekly, to speculate that the US may have developed even more advanced Nazi technology, including anti-gravity devices, a potential source of vast amounts of free energy. <br><br>Cook says that such technology "could be so destructive that it would endanger world peace and the US decided to keep it secret for a long time". <br><br>But, while celebrating the undoubted success of Project Paperclip, many will prefer to remember the thousands who died to send mankind into space. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4443934.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4443934.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

Postby dbeach » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:49 pm

lets add to the Nazi presence ..the many undetected Nazi agents who operated in the USA in the 1930s 40s .<br>Start with Sam bush and Prescott bush<br><br>particularly prescott bush cuz sam bush dealt with the Kaiser.<br><br>ITS true <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ne bad apple does spoil the whole bunch<br><br>Prescott bush and his syndicate set up the USA for Nazi infiltration and GHW Bush and GW Bush are carrying out the long term Nazi strategies .... a brilliant plan of deceit and corruption and of course the continuing satanic influence.<br><br>The USA has NEVER stopped fighting the Nazis and many have died particularly from the Kennedy family.<br><br>Most Americans cannot recognize the Nazi presence..<br><br>and that does not include other foreign govts [syndicates]also trying to overthrow the US and turn it into a 1984 police state..<br>so competing crime syndicates with different names and beliefs..sometimes working together to corrupt the Nation from the top down..<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

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<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Most Americans cannot recognize the Nazi presence..<br><br>and that does not include other foreign govts [syndicates]also trying to overthrow the US and turn it into a 1984 police state..<br>so competing crime syndicates with different names and beliefs..sometimes working together to corrupt the Nation from the top down.."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br> Someone posted an interesting link to the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://peterbeter.host.sk/docs/all/dbeye.htm">Peter Beter</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> audio letters on the blog the other day. Covering the period from 1975-1982, Beter (head of Export-Import Bank under JFK) sent out monthly tapes illuminating what was going on 'behind the curtain'. So far, I have read only the introduction from which this is an excerpt:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Over the course of the 80 AUDIO LETTER tape reports, Dr. Beter reveals that three primary power factions are at work in the world today:<br><br> <br> 1. The Rockefeller Cartel<br><br> 2. The Bolshevik-Zionist Axis<br><br> 3. The New Kremlin Rulers<br><br> <br><br>These factions as such have existed for the past century or so, and their relationships with one another have been in a constant state of flux. Their roots, however, are much older and can be traced backward in time for many centuries.<br><br><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> The Rockefeller Cartel</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> The Rockefeller Cartel is the first of the three great power factions to be dealt with extensively in the Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER reports, for at least two reasons. First, while its scope is worldwide, it is headquartered in the United States. Second, it was indisputably the most powerful of the three factions when Dr. Beter began recording his AUDIO LETTER reports in 1975. This situation changed dramatically later on.<br><br> The Rockefeller Cartel today embraces several hundred of the world's largest multinational corporations--big oil, big banking and big business. It is a new kind of empire, with economic assets so great as to be beyond effective control by mere governments. Its headquarters are American, but its perspective is global, with allegiance neither to the United States nor to any other country. It is an empire unto itself.<br><br> What is today the Rockefeller Cartel was started over a century ago by John D. Rockefeller, Sr. By his well-known cutthroat business tactics Rockefeller created the Standard Oil trust and made himself America's first billionaire by the turn of the century.<br><br> <br><br> Such blatantly unethical practices led to public opposition which culminated in the Supreme Court decree of 1911 dissolving the Standard Oil trust. By then, however, Rockefeller was becoming more sophisticated, finding ways to hide the true extent of his wealth and power while continuing to expand it. The "trust-busting" era had little lasting effect: by the use of nominees and other devices it was possible to retain effective control and coordination of the superficially dismantled Standard Oil empire.<br><br> <br><br> Throughout the Twentieth Century, from World War I onward, Rockefeller economic power has translated increasingly into Rockefeller political power.<br><br>This, in turn, has been used to increase Rockefeller economic power still further. For example, oil has played a key role in all of America's major wars of this century, with the Rockefeller oil interests profiting handsomely. Yet this role has been generally obscured both in current news accounts during each war and in historical accounts written later on. The obscuring of key information of this type is a symptom of Rockefeller power expansion into the realms of journalism and teaching. Power is always most secure when it is not recognized, so every effort is made to keep information about it from becoming public.<br><br> In a related vein, Rockefeller-style "public relations" has been developed and refined since the turn of the century for similarly deceptive purposes. It began when John D. Rockefeller, Sr., famous primarily for his greed, started changing his image by handing out dimes to people he chanced to meet on the street. At the same time he also began making donations to charitable causes, always with great fanfare and publicity, to curry public favor as an alleged philanthropist. This led to the creation of tax-exempt foundations: these enabled Rockefeller money to be invested in organizations which looked philanthropic, yet which were actually avenues for further expanding Rockefeller power. The Rockefeller-controlled major foundations have been used to transform American life and values in directions which make America more susceptible to Rockefeller control. At the same time, the foundations serve an invaluable purpose as a disguised means for interlocking the various business interests which constitute the Rockefeller Cartel.<br><br> John D. Rockefeller, Sr., founded a true dynasty, passing on his plans and programs to be carried on by succeeding generations. John D. Rockefeller, Jr., carried forward the Rockefeller program of ever-expanding power with particular emphasis upon subverting the Christian faith which, historically, is the foundation of basic American ideals. But it was the Rockefeller "Third Generation" who expanded and developed the Rockefeller Cartel to its zenith of power. Of the six members of the Third Generation, sister Abby and brother Winthrop did not much care for the grand plan (although Winthrop did become Governor of Arkansas). But the other four brothers--John D. 3rd, Nelson, Laurance and David--threw themselves with crafty zest into the project of expanding the Rockefeller empire. They carved up the world into spheres of influence, each concentrating upon his own areas but coordinating his actions with the others. They worked together as a unit, and throughout his AUDIO LETTER tapes Dr. Beter often refers to them simply as "the four Rockefeller brothers."<br><br> From about World War II onward, it was the four Rockefeller brothers who held the reins of what had become the worldwide Rockefeller Empire. It was they who created the modern multinational corporation, and used American taxpayer money under the guise of "foreign aid" after World War Il to build up their corporate empire worldwide. World War II had been fought over Saudi Arabian oil, and it gave them an unprecedented financial windfall. The Rockefeller oil companies obtained Saudi oil at a net cost (after charge-backs and various devices) of about 5 cents per barrel for nearly 30 years, until the Arab oil embargo of 1973 finally put a halt to it. The awesome profits generated by Saudi Arabian oil enabled the Rockefeller brothers to buy up much of the industrial base of the United States, Europe and Japan. At the same time Rockefeller power throughout Latin America, which had been established by Nelson Rockefeller during World War II, was expanded and deepened during the postwar years. John D. Rockefeller, 3rd, masterminded the Rockefeller Cartel economic takeover of much of black Africa: revolutions created black governments which, lacking expertise, had to turn to Rockefeller multinational corporations to "manage" their resources. Laurance Rockefeller busied himself with control of America's aerospace and defense industry, major airlines, and massaging the stock market. David, the youngest but most powerful, became the kingpin of the Rockefeller banking empire whose tentacles reach into business circles the world over. He also specialized in intelligence matters, although Nelson also was involved in this area.<br><br> For decades the four Rockefeller brothers had things pretty much their own way. They made plans, set up timetables, and generally carried them out without a hitch. But by the time Dr. Beter launched his AUDIO LETTER tape report series, the Rockefeller brothers were beginning to show signs of slippage in their power. They had made mistakes, and some of their timetables were starting to slide. During 1974-75 they were tripped up in certain plans by partial public exposure of massive irregularities surrounding America's monetary gold supply. Next during 1976-77 their long-standing secret alliance with the Kremlin fell apart, as their former allies--the Bolsheviks--were overthrown by a new ruling group in Russia. The four Rockefeller brothers made the mistake of welcoming expelled Bolsheviks from Russia into positions of power here in the United States. This led by early 1979 to the overthrow of the four Rockefeller brothers by the Bolsheviks here. First John D. Rockefeller, 3rd, died in an alleged auto "accident" in July 1978. Then in late January 1979, Nelson Rockefeller was murdered in the beginning of a full-fledged Bolshevik coup d'etat behind the scenes.<br><br> Today the Rockefeller Cartel is no longer under the direct control of the Rockefeller family as it was under the four Rockefeller brothers, but it remains a formidable force. As Dr. Beter ended his AUDIO LETTER report series in November 1982, the regrouped Rockefeller Cartel was gradually regaining some of its lost power in a bitter struggle against the Bolsheviks here.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

Postby dbeach » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:56 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rockroth.html">www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/rockroth.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Excerpted from the book Murder by Injection by Eustace Mullins, chapter 10:<br><br><br>by Eustace Mullins <br><br><br>Many American conservatives believe as a matter of faith that the Rockefellers and the Council on Foreign Relations exercise absolute control over the government and the people of United States . This thesis can be accepted as a working formula if one remains conscious of the larger issues . Two writers for whom the present writer has great respect, Dr. Emanuel Josephson and Morris Bealle, insisted on focusing on the Rockefellers and excluding all other aspects of the World Order . This severely limited the effect of their otherwise ground breaking work on the Medical Monopoly.<br><br>This writer advanced a contrary view in ``The World Order,'' fixing upon the Rothschild monetary power, which reached a point of world control by 1885, and its London policy group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, as the policy makers for what has essentially been since 1900, re-established colonial government in the United States. The colonial, or occupation, government, functions primarily through the Council on Foreign Relations, but only as the subsidiary of RIIA and through the Rockefeller Foundation which controls government functions, the educational establishments, the media, the religions and the state legislatures.<br><br>It is true that the American colonials have ``free elections,'' in which they have the absolute right to vote for one of two opposing candidates, both of whom have been handpicked and financed by the Rockefeller syndicate. This touching evidence of ``democracy'' serves to convince most Americana that we are indeed a free people. We even have a cracked Liberty Bell in Philadelphia to prove it. American youth have been free since 1900 to be marched off to die in Hegelian wars in which both combatants received their instructions from the World Order. We are free to invest in a stock market in which the daily quantity, price and value of the monetary unit is manipulated and controlled by a Federal Reserve System which is answerable only to the Bank of England. It has maintained its vaunted ``independence'' from our government's control, but this is the only independence it has ever had.<br><br>The realization that we do indeed live under the dictates of the ``Rockefeller Syndicate'' can well be the starting point of the long road back of a genuine struggle for American independence. In exposing ``the Rockefellers'' as agents of a foreign power, which is not merely a foreign power, but a genuine world government, we must realize that this is not merely a group dedicated to making money, but a group which is committed to maintaining the power of a colonial form of government over the American people. Thus the ancient calumny of John D. Rockefeller as a man obsessed by greed (a category in which he has plenty of company) obscures the act that from the day the Rothschilds began to finance his march towards a total oil monopoly in the United States from their coffers at the National City Bank of Cleveland, Rockefeller was never an independent power, nor does any department of the Rockefeller Syndicate operate as an independent power. We know that the Cosa Nostra, or Mafia, with which the Syndicate is closely allied, has somewhat autonomous power in the regions which have been assigned to that particular ``family'' by the national directors, but this always implies that that family remains under total control and answerable for everything which occurs in its territory.<br><br>Similarly, the Rockefeller Syndicate operates under clearly defined spheres of influence. The ``charitable'' organizations, the business companies, and the policy groups, always meld into a working operation, nor can any department of the Syndicate strike out on its own or formulate an independent policy, no matter what may be its justification.<br><br>The Rockefeller Syndicate operates under the control of the world financial structure, which means that on any given day, all of its assets could be rendered close to worthless by adroit financial manipulation. This is the final control, which ensures that no one can quit the organization. Not only would he be stripped of all assets, but he would be under contract for immediate assassination. Our Department of Justice is well aware that the only ``terrorists'' operating in the United States are the agents of the World Order, but they prudently avoid any mention of this fact.<br><br>The world financial structure, far from being an unknown or hidden organization, is actually well known and well defined. It consists of the major Swiss Banks; the survivors of the old Venetian-Genoese banking axis; the Big Five of the world grain trade; the British combine, centered in the Bank of England and its chartered merchant banks, functioning trough the Rothschilds and the Oppenheimers and having absolute control over their Canadian colony through the Royal Bank of Canada and the Bank of Montreal, their Canadian lieutenants being the Bronfmans, Belzbergs, and other financial operators; and the colonial banking structure in the United States, controlled by the Bank of England through the Federal Reserve System; the Boston Brahmin families who made their fortunes in the opium trade, including the Delanos and others and the Rockefeller Syndicate, consisting of the Kissinger network headquartered in the Rockefeller Bank, Chase Manhattan Bank, American Express, the present form of the old Rothschild representatives in the United States, which includes Kuhn, Loeb Company and Lehman Brothers.<br><br>It is notable that the Rockefeller Syndicate is far down on the list of the world's financial structure. Why then is it of such importance ? Although it is not the crucial factor in financial decision in the Western Hemisphere, it is the actual working control mechanism of the American colony. The Rockefeller family themselves, like the Morgans, Schiffs and Warburgs, have faded into insignificance, but the mechanism created in their name roars along at full power, still maintaining all of he functions for which it was organized. Since he set up the Trilateral Commission, David Rockefeller has functioned as a sort of international courier for the World Order, principally concerned with delivering working instructions to the Communist bloc, either directly, in New York or by traveling to the area. Laurance Rockefeller is active in the operation of the Medical Monopoly, but his principal interests are in operating various vacation spas in tropical areas. They are the two survivors of the ``Fortunate Five,'' the five sons of John D. Rockefeller, Jr. and Abby Aldrich. John D. Rockefeller, Jr. died in an institution in Tucson, Arizona and was hastily cremated. John D. Rockefeller III died in a mysterious accident on a New York Parkway near his home. Nelson Rockefeller, named after his grandfather, died in the arms of a TV journalist; it was later revealed that he had also been in the arms of another TV journalist at the same time; the death was hushed up for many hours. It is generally believed hat he ran afoul of his Colombian drug connection, the disagreement hardly being trivial ; it involved several billion dollars in drug profits which had not been properly apportioned. Winthrop Rockefeller died an alcoholic in the arms of his black boy friend. He had been interviewed on television by Harry Reasoner to explain his hasty move from New York to Arkansas. Winthrop leered that his black boy friend, an Army sergeant who apparently taught him the mysteries of drill, refused to live in New York. To celebrate this alliance, Winthrop Rockefeller gave magnificently to Negro causes, including the Urban League building on East 48th Street in New York. A plaque on the second floor notes that it was his gift; it might well have stated ``From Hadrian to his Antinous''.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Project Paperclip: Dark side of the Moon

Postby marykmusic » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:42 pm

I recommend the book "Reich of the Black Sun" by Joseph Farrell. Adventures Unlimited carries it. A brief synopsis: <br><br>This is Joseph Farrell`s powerful book Reich of the black sun - Nazi secret weapons & the cold war allied legend (2004) which exposes the true nature of super secret scientific research conducted by the Third Reich during World war 2. It`s one of very rare english books which includes the latest documentation from secret archives which were only recently opened after the reunification of Germany and from other countries. Among other fascinating research done by german revisionist historians Farrell concludes that the Nazi Germany won the race for the atom bomb in late 1944 and that the uranium bomb dropped on Hiroshima was entirely german in origin. Reich of the black sun is a simply fascinating and thoughtfully engaging historical treatise that reveals the Nazis fascination with the occult, alternative physics, as well as new energy sources and weaponry. The reader is taken into most secret world of Third Reich`s black projects and their gigantic dimensions which still eludes researchers today. This unique book also offers conclusive evidence that the UFO phenomena is simply a gigantic hoax and a coverup of completely manmade technologies. 360 pages, many pictures. A must read for everyone. From the backcover: Why were the Allies worried about an atom bomb attack by the Germans in 1944? Why did the Soviets threaten to use poison gas against the Germans? Why did Hitler in 1945 insist that holding Prague could win the war for the Third Reich? Why did US General George Patton`s Third Army race to control the Skoda Works at Pilsen in Czechoslovakia instead of heading for Berlin? Why did the US Army not test the uranium atom bomb it dropped on Hiroshima? Why did the Luftwaffe fly a non-stop round trip mission to within 20 miles of New York City in 1944?<br><br>--MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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the ole rumours hitler escaped..

Postby dbeach » Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:18 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/reststory/hitlersurvived.html">www.davidicke.net/tellthe...vived.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"I have read about a connection between Hitler - Argentina - Antarctica - and aliens from Aldebaran who allegedly helped him build UFO's and escape through a portal in Antarctica after he lost the war in 1945. <br><br><br>"Adolf Hitler lived in Patagonia, in southern Argentina, after fleeing Germany in 1945," claims Argentinian journalist Abel Basti in a tour-guide-style book which discusses the locations in the Andean foothills which served as a refuge for several former Nazi leaders." <br>"Hitler and his lover, Eva Braun, did not commit suicide - rather, they fled to Argentina's shores aboard a submarine and lived for years in the vicinity of San Carlos de Bariloche, a tourist site and ski haven about 1,350 kilometers (810 miles) southwest of Buenos Aires, according to the journalist." <br><br>"In his book, Bariloche: Nazi Guia-Turistica, published January 2004, Basti reproduces documents, affidavits, photographs and blueprints aimed at steering the reader (or visitor--S.C.) to the sites that sheltered Hitler, Martin Bormann, Joseph Mengele and Adolf Eichmann." <br><br>"He (Basti) is displeased when asked if his book challenges the official story of the Hitler/Braun suicide, saying that the corpses of Hitler and his lover were never found, as is the case with other Nazis who allegedly committed suicide." <br><br>"'The only 'official' story is the report made by General Zhukov (commander of the Soviet armies that occupied Berlin--S.C.) to the Kremlin, stating that Hitler and several Nazi leaders had escaped, presumably to Spain or the Americas, and this is what Stalin advised the U.S. government,' he retorted." <br><br>"Basti's book includes a photo of the Incalco Ranch (In the language of the indigenous Nahuel people of Argentina, Incalco means near the water --J.T.), located in Villa la Angostura on the shores of Lago Nahuel Huapi (lake), 80 kilometers (50 miles) north of Bariloche. This was the refuge chosen by Argentinian Nazis to hide Hitler and Eva Braun." "<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.crystalinks.com/aldebaran.html">www.crystalinks.com/aldebaran.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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the ole rumours hitler escaped..UK Official Secrets Act

Postby emad » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:27 pm

classified files contain information on ALL UK the pre and post 1939 counter-intelligence campaigns about Adolf Hitler. Also his intrinsic links to British Fascist party leader Oswald Moseley, the Mitford Family and its subsequent hybrids in Lord Redesdale's family, the Freeman family, the Gelli family connections to Giovanni Pacelli, aka Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Cosmo Lang (C of E) and Louis Battenberg, later Lord Mountbatten, the families of General Franco and Spanish fascist affiliates and Italy's Il Duce himself, Mussolini. Ditto close relatives of Stalin, mainly the Sergeyev amily and descendants of White Russian renegade Prince Felix Yussupov. <br><br>The spin, subterfuge and downright lying about the true identity of Adolf Hitler and his subsequent progeny by various scions of the above families continues to this day. Mainly to protect the godawful reputation of one Violet King Freeman, a paid actress who before the September 1940 bombing of Buckingham Palace, had acted on many official security occasions as a double for the wife of George VI, Queen Elizabeth. And who was caught spying for Stalin and acting as a paid informant for the Third Reich, was charged but allowed to continue in her espionage role after some deft sleights of hand by UK military ntelligence.<br><br>For it was King Freeman that was installed by Churchill's wartime Tory/Labour coalition government as 'Queen Elizabeth', wife of George VI, in a panick knee jerk reaction when George VI, his wife and eldest daughter Princess Elizabeth ALL PERISHED after the Luftwaffe blitzed Buck House.<br><br>According to official UK State papers, it was supposed to be a temporary measure, to calm the British population ie the alteady traumatised voters, who had not only lost one King (Edward VIII) through abdication, but whose WWII morale was pretty low with no active anti-Hilter support from the US.<br><br>Churchill sought advice from FDR. Official papers state that Edward VIII, now Duke of Windsor, was approached by Churchill and took part in tense discussions with him and Roosevelt, but refused any kind of comeback not only on principle - given the rough treatment handled out to his wife Wallis (whose aunt Bessie Truman, Harry S's wife, had introduced the pair to weach other in the first place) not surprising - but because he and his wife had twice been the target's of Himmler's assasination attempts in Spain.<br><br>Official documents in the form of letters between the Duke, FDR and Churchill - some of which are in the private archives of the Truman family, others under lock and key at the Royal Archives in Windsor Castle - go into some detail about this. The most notable example being the Duke's considered reply to Churchill's letter where the UK prime minister twice lays out an alternative plan, stating that both the UK Tory and Labour parties would recognise a NEW heir to the British throne if Wallis were to produce a child. Three miscarriages are recorded after 1937. Private medical papers from early forms of fertility treatmen - including surrogacy options - both in the US and the UK, also relate.<br><br>Back to Violet King Freeman. She was a cousin of Churchill's wife Clementine and it seemed a good idea at the time.The double inserted by Churchill to temporarily act out the role of 'George VI' was closely related to Archbishop Cosmo Lang (the prelate who refused to sanction a marriage between Edward VIII and Wallis Warfield, on ground of her previous divorces) and to Oswald Moseley, the ritish Union of Fascists leader subsequently executed in the UK for treason.<br><br>The actress - also previously used as a security operation double - who stepped into the dead Princess Elizabeth shoes is the woman who is still there today. Her name is Barbara Freeman, she is the daughter of Richard Freeman (who wrote under the pen name of Edgard Wallace). Violet Freeman was Richard Freeman's second wife and her step-mother. Barbara Freeman's birth mother was Xenia Sergeyev, who was Stalin's half-sister. Richard Freeman also had two sons - Bryan and Michael. Michael Freeman was subsequently re-invented by UK and US intelligence agencies and became the actor know to all and sundry as RONALD REAGAN.<br><br>The real loser in this scenario Princess Margaret, who at the age of 10 had not only lost both her parents and elder sister, but who had been marginalised into accepting these doubles and told it was the best thing for her and her country. IE her solemn duty. And a class act ensued.<br><br>To cut a long story short, Queen Mary (widow of George V and mother of Duke of Windsor and his siblings) had grave reservations about the way this temporary solution and her disquiet is also recorded in official Royal papers held in secure oblivion at the Royal Archives at Windsor. When the UK Labour Party hatched a plan to marry off the 'double' Princess Elizabeth in 1947 to her Greek cousin Prince Phillip, her disquiet became even more intense. But Louis Mountbatten put enormous pressure on all concerned (and Wallis continued to conceive and miscarry intermittently)and the marriage took place.<br><br>When the fake George VI died in 1952, TWO pretenders to the UK throne had already been spawned - Charles Windsor (who was ony accredited the lesser title of Duke of Cornwall, NOT Prince of Wales) and Anne Windsor. THAT's when Phillip Battenberg (Louis Mountbatten's nephew) was assasinated and a NEW lookalike inserted - the current 'Prince Phillip', in reality abother scion of the Freeman family whose mother was Oswald Moseley's sister.<br><br>If this was not machiavellian enough, it soon emerged that Violet King Freeman ALSO had a skeleton in her personal cupboard: in 1924 she had given birth to a son - Frank - by the Gelli family member who took over the official ID of Giovanni Pacelli, later Pope Pius XII. <br><br>THAT offspring had one truly remarkable, but equally horrendous personal characteristic. He was a dead ringer for the up and coming thrusting young man called George Herbert Bush. If you jump ahead to 22 November 1963, the 'George Bush Senior' who is on record as being in Dallas on the day but told the Warren Commission that he 'couldn't remember exactly' where he was or what he was doing when JFK was assasinated, you will find that it was FRANK GELLI. He murdered the original George Herbert Bush and took over his ID with the full blessing of the US military and security/intelligence services. And the scumbag who since the mid-1960s has played the role of George Bush Jr is not the original George. He is Gelli's cousin. Full name John Gelli.<br><br>HIS mother is Barbara Freeman's sister, Emilia Freeman, who is Richard Freeman's daughter by one of the Mitford sisters (one of whom was married to Oswald Mseley). The father is another cousin of Frank Gelli who since 1969 has occupied the official ID slot of 'General Augusto Pinochet' - ie aother inserted lookalike, and son of 'Pacelli' like Frank.<br><br>Emilia Freeman has yet ANOTHER son, tis time by the Freeman geek who was inserted as 'Prince Phillip' but in reality is a Freeman/Moseley hybrid. THAT son was born as Peter Freeman. And like his half brother John Gelli was adopted and became a 'commander in chief'. His current incarnation is that of Tony Blair.<br><br>Much, much more about this cosy scenario, and the role of fascists in key power positions in both UK and US public life, is still gagged under the UK Official Secrets Act. <br><br>The sell by date runs out with the death of 'Queen Elizabeth II'.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the ole rumours hitler escaped..UK Official Secrets Act

Postby dbeach » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:26 pm

Hold the presses on tis one ... so GHW Bush is dead..then who is jr?? and is he the real son of the real GHW Bush?<br><br>ALSO Prescott Bush was a NAZI agent ..<br>WHY replace GHW Bush when his father Prescott served so well for the Nazis..??<br><br><br><br>"THAT offspring had one truly remarkable, but equally horrendous personal characteristic. He was a dead ringer for the up and coming thrusting young man called George Herbert Bush. If you jump ahead to 22 November 1963, the 'George Bush Senior' who is on record as being in Dallas on the day but told the Warren Commission that he 'couldn't remember exactly' where he was or what he was doing when JFK was assasinated, you will find that it was FRANK GELLI. He murdered the original George Herbert Bush and took over his ID with the full blessing of the US military and security/intelligence services. And the scumbag who since the mid-1960s has played the role of George Bush Jr is not the original George. He is Gelli's cousin. Full name John Gelli."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the ole rumours hitler escaped..UK Official Secrets Act

Postby dbeach » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:31 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=1446">www.findagrave.com/cgi-bi...&GRid=1446</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>King George VI <br>Birth: Dec. 14, 1895<br>Sandrigham <br>Death: Feb. 6, 1952<br>Sandrigham <br> <br>British Monarch. Born Albert Frederick Arthur George at Sandringham Castle in Norfolk and called Albert or Bertie for most of his life, he was the second son of King George V and Queen Mary, the former Princess Mary of Teck. As second son, his education was not to prepare him for rule, but for the military. He served in the Royal Navy from 1913 to 1917, seeing action at the Battle of Jutland, and the Royal Naval Air Service and subsequently the Royal Air Force from 1917-1919. After a year at Trinity College, Cambridge University, he was created Duke of York, the traditional title for second sons, on June 3, 1920. The Duke settled in to what was supposed to be a fairly mundane and uneventful life of service to the country – for example, from 1921 to 1939 he sponsored an annual series of boys’ camps which brought together sons of privilege with sons of the working class. In 1923 he married Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the youngest daughter of the Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne. The couple had two daughters: Princess Elizabeth (born 1926, the current Queen Elizabeth II) and Princess Margaret (1930-2002, later Countess of Snowdon). A quiet family life was very much to his liking as he was by nature rather shy, a situation aggravated by a pronounced stammer. However, when his elder brother David, who inherited the throne as Edward VIII in 1936, decided to abdicate, Albert shouldered the unwelcome responsibility of the monarchy and was crowned King George VI in 1937. (Thanks to the intervention of an Australian speech therapist, he overcame the stammer.) Before the war, his dignity and image of very much the family man helped to restore the popular opinion of the monarchy, which had been at its lowest ebb since his great-grandmother Victoria had inherited the throne a hundred years before. When World War II broke out in 1939 the King initially supported Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement – as monarch, he couldn’t do much else but support the government – but when Churchill became Prime Minister the King’s support and commitment to Churchill’s policies was total and absolute. During the War King George visited most of the battle fronts where British and Empire troops were fighting, including Normandy just 10 days after the invasion. His quiet dignity and Churchill’s famous pugnacity provided the perfect image of British leadership. After the war, the King oversaw the initial phases of changeover from Empire to Commonwealth when India and Pakistan became independent in 1947. The strain of World War II and the transition into Cold War as well as Britain’s post-war economic woes proved a strain on his health. He died where he was born, at Sandringham, after a lengthy battle with lung cancer. (bio by: Paul F. Wilson)<br>Search Amazon for King George VI <br> <br>Burial:<br>Windsor Castle (St. George's Chapel) <br>Windsor, England <br> <br>Record added: Jan 1 2001<br> <br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the ole rumours hitler escaped..UK Official Secrets Act

Postby dbeach » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:33 pm

I AM NOW LOST in Space <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the ole rumours hitler escaped..UK Official Secrets Act

Postby marykmusic » Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:04 am

If it's all Official Secrets... how does anyone actually know? --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re Why replace old Nazi bushes with the lookalikes?

Postby emad » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:18 pm

Because like Ronald Reagan, Bush Senior (aka Frank Gelli) has been the Soviet Union's most successful KGB officer in living memory. That New World Order was born from a little ethnic cleansing of Nazi diehards spawned by Prescott and Co, who were then taken over by pro-Soviet infiltrators who knew damned well that, after the Cuban missile crisis, the US with UK outgunned the Soviet Union in nuclear ballistic capability. Remember JFK telling Khruschev that the atmoic missiles in Turkey were non-negotiable? Hence the USSR's moves to install as many dummy missiles in the Warsaw Pact bloc to give the appearance of bolstering their warhead capabilities.<br><br>The mian agenda of the Soviet Union post Suez (Gamal Abdel Nasser was HITLER'S son and had been bankrolled by the USSR) was to infiltrate as much high public office in the west and to gradually attempt to take over by stealth. In the Middle East the No 1 prime directive of Soviet Policy was to seize control of oil supplies as a means of paralysing NATO countries.<br><br>In the UK this procedure of KGB infiltration of public office and key personnel was already successful with the infiltration of the House of Windsor. Especially when at the end of 1957, one last final attempt at an early form of IVF treatment involving a surrogate mother proved successful and the Duke & Duchess of Windsor produced a healthy baby girl. <br><br>This caused rucktions in the global political theater as it fulfilled both FDR, Harry S Truman's and later Eisenhower's conditions of getting rid of the sham actors installed into Buck House after the September 1940 bombing. An heir had been born that was an aceptable solution to the crass stupidity of the installation of the actors as the new royal family.<br><br>In May 1961 President John F Kennedy flew with his wife on a state visit to France and then to London. On the night of 31st May 1961 the Kennedys stayed at the Duke & Duchess's Paris villa. The Royal Archives at Windsor Castle carry a copy of the film footage of the Kennedys at this occasion and their first meeting with the Windsors' child, called Priness Mary. The footage also show JFK presenting Wallis with the Presidential Medal of Freedom for her work during the War years onm behalf of the Democratic Party. The citation and medal are in the private ownership of the Duke & Duchess's daughter/heir.<br><br>On 18 April 1963 the child was formally crowned and named as Queen Mary III (Queen Mary I being Mary Tudor, and Queen Mary II being Queen Mary as in William and Mary). The occasion was filmed by the BBC, all the press corps was there<br>and all the attending world heads of state and/or government duly recorded. President Harry S Truman, his wife Bessie and other members of the Truman family were present.<br><br>Cutting another very long story short, the (very) young Queen Mary III married at the age of 14 (!) again at Westminster Abbey, just as her father was in the final stages of terminal cancer. Again, this is recorded for posterity in BBC film achives. Six children have been born since then and about a dozen grandchildren.<br><br>Her husband is Ian Curtis Truman, the only surviving son of the late John Curtis Truman, great nephew of Harry S Truman, and of Margaret Wallace. They, along with their younger son Christopher, perished in an arson attack at their US home, 40 years tomorrow: 28 November 1965. When this arson/murder was eventually the subject of a criminal investigation, the enquiry showed that it had been ordered by rogue elements in the US military who had been seminal to the release of counter-intelligence campaigns following JFK's assasination. John Truman (a soldier with the rank of Captain, subsequently made a Major, was also a jazz musician and played the trumpet. His nickname was 'Trump') had worked on many covert operations and had been personally entrusted by JFK himself on many highly sensitive missions abroad concerning attempts to smuggle atomic weapons and - on one occasion - an attempted coup d'etat by KGB officers in London who had threatened to blow up an atomic device unless the newly crowned Queen Mary immediately abdicated.)<br><br>There have been three subsequent attempts at coup d'etat since then, all involving rogue elements of the UK military threatening to blow up an atomic/nuclear device and force Mary's abdication. The most serious was the 1983 attempt which was 100% orchestrated by reagan/Bush 1.<br><br>There is much, much more to say about this. But the most salient part is that Blair ordered a systematic cleansing of all archive material from the internet concerning this whole subject. And that in the summer of 2000 he financed and orchestrated the hostage taking of Queen Mary, stealing some £100 billion of her assets via a scam perpetrated by the HSBC bank.<br><br>I'll post more about this soon.<br><br>The new website I have been involved with "Who's Who in World Corruption" carries ALL the published material (including photographs, documents, legal papers, features and interviews etc) to which this refers. ALL of wich have been excised from the internet. Remember that "Millenium Bug" scam that threatened global meltdown unless the IT engineers tinkered with every digital clock in the world? THAT was the cover for the dirty tricks operation that whitewashed all the above, INCLUDING ALL RECORDS RELATING T0 BUSH 2'S EXTENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORDS that had now already been whitewashed by the farcial 'Good Friday Agreement'.<br><br>Our website has had one or two legal issues of copyright to wrestle with. IE if it's over 30 years old, it's ok to pulish, otherwise you need thew owners' written permission. hence the delay in launching the overal site. But were more than ((% confident for a December 2005 launch now that some confidentiality agreements have been brokered. <p></p><i></i>
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marykmusic: how does anyone actually know if it's all

Postby emad » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:20 pm

classified/official secrets act: my reply to dbeach above refers.<br><br>I must also cite an extensive professional and personal interest which has been pivotal. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: marykmusic: how does anyone actually know if it's all

Postby dbeach » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:42 pm

EMAD<br>I could accept most of this stuff..The troubling part for me is<br>that GHW Bush is an imposter...<br><br>It kinda gives GW Bush an excuse for his criminal behavior.<br><br>And again why replace the son of Nazi agent supreme Prescott Bush..? .unless the Nazis were purged by other factions which is possible.... <p></p><i></i>
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Not just an impostor... 100% willing participant

Postby emad » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:22 pm

Remember the old Hitler/Stalin pact and the seminal role played by 'Hitler's Pope' Pius XII (see John Cornwell's book)? The Soviet Union's game was upped when their infiltration plan was put into effect post Suez ('57) and Dallas ('63). Ingenious way to do war with NATO: infilitrate high public office with 'clone' lookalikes, erase uncomfortable bits of history (eg role of Catholic church in WWII), take over the assets of corporations, control oil production and dsitribution, set the political agenda and spawn future generations of A-list personnel/'celebs'. Much more effective than ever firing a single nuclear warhead at the enemy. And virtually undetectable....... <p></p><i></i>
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