Ramsey Clark: Key Defender of Nazi War Criminals

by **Qutb** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:40 pm

Remember Omar Saed Sheikh, the guy who wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta on instructions from ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmed, who was in Washington on 9/11? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl’s kidnapper and killer--Omar Sheikh--appears to have been heavily influenced by Nazi ideology while waging jihad in the Balkans. (For more about the Nazi/Islamofascist influence in the Balkans, see—among other programs—FTR#’s 330, 400, 414, 416.) “ . . . Mr. Levy captures this divide in his book when he reports that Omar ‘played chess and read Mein Kampf.’ At one point during the C-Span interview, I asked him about Omar and Mein Kampf: ‘There are those who say ‘Hitler is dead,’ but among people like Omar—terrorists, jihadists like him—Hitler is spoken of with affection, right?’ True, Mr. Levy said: According to the testimony of one of the men he kidnapped in India, Omar ‘was able to recite entire pages of Mein Kampf by heart.’<hr></blockquote> Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Qutb** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:49 pm

This is making my head spin, now. Why haven't I read this before? Why isn't this a primary focus of every 9/11 investigator? Do note, in particular, the special significance of the date November 9 to Nazis and neo-Nazis, which in British English and German is written 9 November - 9/11. The same date the Pentagon is attacked by a low-flying plane in neo-Nazi William Pierce's The Turner Diaries, which inspired Timothy McVeigh. And William Pierce is connected to European neo-Nazi lawyer and convert to Islam (any connection to Myatt?) Achmed Huber (friend of Francois Genoud), and anticipated Bin Laden attacking tall buildings in New York back in 1998... enough dots already?? <blockquote>Quote:<hr> 36. Neo-Nazi/Islamist Achmed Huber has apparently been active in forming working relationships between American far-right and Islamist elements as well—a subject that will be explored at greater length below. “ . . . Recently, he went to Chicago for a discreet congress that brought together the ‘authentic Right and the fighters for Islam,’ and he says that ‘major decisions were taken . . . the reunification is under way.’” (Dollars for Terror; p. 143.) 37. Next, the program reviews a speech made by William Pierce 1998, the program sets forth the National Alliance leader’s eerie foreshadowing of the events of 9/11. (Pierce is the author of The Turner Diaries and Serpent’s Walk, discussed in—among other programs—FTR#’s 90, 212, 331, 399, and the series about “German Corporate Control of the American Media.”) Pierce spoke of Osama bin Laden attacking tall buildings, such as the World Trade Center, and the coming of bio-terrorism to the U.S. This is but one indication that the relationship between Islamists and neo-Nazis sought by Huber had become a reality—whether or not Huber was the one who cemented its genesis. Note that the National Alliance and the German NPD (with which Huber is affiliated) are very close. (For more about this, see—among other programs—FTR#335). “Upon perusing his speeches from 1998-99, I discovered that Pierce, who heads the so-called ‘National Alliance,’ did indeed utter some most interesting (pre-Sept. 11th--if not prophetic—remarks about Osama bin Laden and bio-terrorism. The running theme in Pierce’s commentaries is—to paraphrase his hero Hitler—that Osama Bin Laden’s warning to America is ‘I Am Coming.’ And so is bio-terrorism.” (“Neo-Nazis and 9/11” by Jack McCarthy; Counterpunch; 10/29/2001; accessed at www.counterpunch.org/mccarthypierce.html .) 38.  “In one chilling commentary Pierce, (after noting that Bin Laden and the rest of the lost generation of angry Moslem youth had it with their parents’ compromises and were hell bent on revenge against infidel America) issued this stark, prophetic warning in a 1998 radio address titled, ‘Stay Out of Tall Buildings.’ ‘New Yorkers who work in tall office buildings anything close to the size of the World Trade Center might consider wearing hard hats . . .’ Pierce warned. . . . 39. Next, reviewing information from FTR#399, the broadcast highlights the similarity between the events of 9/11 and the concluding episode of The Turner Diaries—the blueprint for Timothy McVeigh and company, as well as the Nazi terror group The Order. That Nazi tract (authored by the above-mentioned William Pierce) concludes with a low-level suicide aerial attack against the Pentagon. “I conferred privately with Major Williams of the Washington Field Command for more than an hour on the problem of attacking the Pentagon. The military’s other major command centers were either knocked out on September 8 or subsequently consolidated with the Pentagon, which the top brass apparently regards as impregnable. And it damned near is. We went over every possibility we could think of, and we came up with no really convincing plan—except, perhaps one. That is to make an air delivery of a bomb.” (The Turner Diaries; “Andrew Macdonald;” Barricade Books, Inc. [SC] 1996; Copyright 1978, 1980 William Pierce; ISBN 1-56980-086-3; p. 201.) 40. “In the massive ring of defenses around the Pentagon there is a great deal of anti-aircraft firepower, but we decided that a small plane, flying just above the ground, might be able to get through the three-mile gauntlet with one of our 60-kiloton warheads. One factor in favor of such an attempt is that we have never before used aircraft in such a way, and we might hope to catch the anti-aircraft crews off their guard.” (Idem.) 41. “Although the military is guarding all civil airfields, it just happens that we have an old crop duster stashed in a barn only a few miles from here. My immediate assignment is to prepare a detailed plan for an aerial attack on the Pentagon by next Monday. We must make a final decision at the time and then act without further delay.” (Idem.) 42. It is worth noting that The Turner Diaries features the climactic attack on the Pentagon as occurring on November 9th. That date had great significance for the Nazis. The German sailors’ rebellion that precipitated the advent of the Weimar Republic so hated by the Nazis began on 11/9. Attempting to roll back the Weimar revolution, the Nazis launched the ill-fated Beer Hall Putsch on that date, as well. Die Krystallnacht (the Night of Glass pogrom) of 1938 was launched on that date also. Interestingly, the Berlin Wall came down on November 9. A German (or other European) would write the date November 9 as—9/11! “November 9, 1993. It’s still three hours until first light, and all systems are ‘go.’ I’ll use the time to write a few pages—my last diary entry. Then it’s a one-way trip to the Pentagon for me. The warhead is strapped into the front seat of the old Stearman and rigged to detonate either on impact or when I flip a switch in the back seat. Hopefully, I’ll be able to mange a low-level air burst directly over the center of the Pentagon. Failing that, I’ll at least try to fly as close as I can before I’m shot down.” (Ibid.; p. 202.) 43. “Thus end Earl Turner’s diaries, as unpretentiously as they began. His final mission was successful, of course, as we all are reminded each year on November 9—our traditional Day of the Martyrs.” (Ibid.; p. 205.) 44. A German paper on the neo-Nazi/Islamist connection discusses dialogue written by Pierce in The Turner Diaries. The protagonist of this book (expressing the views of William Pierce, the book’s author) rants about his desire to see the “100 floors of the skyscraper fall.” Recall that—as seen above—the book also has a scene eerily like the attack on the Pentagon and that Pierce himself foreshadowed the attacks in a 1998 radio broadcast. “47 years later the Hitler worshipper William Pierce (born 1933) tells in his right-wing terrorist novel “The Turner Diaries” of a right-wing extremist Kamikaze-ing an airplane into the Pentagon. In an apocalyptic scene Pierce rejoices over the destruction of the center of the world capital-contaminated, Jewish-dominated New York. The neo-Nazi, writing under the alias Andrew MacDonald, says he desires to see the ‘100 floors of the skyscraper’ fall. Pierce’s book [The Turner Diaries] is a utopian fantasy, promoted as a neo-nazi Bible world-wide, as the publication of the diaries of the US-American right-wing extremist Earl Turner found in the years 2091 during excavations of the ruins of Washington, 100 years after the national revolution of 1991-93.” <hr></blockquote> Edited to add: William Pierce was born September 11, 1933. And I don't know if it means anything, but like David Myatt, he was educated as a physicist. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=qutb>Qutb</A> at: 9/30/05 7:23 pm

by **Qutb** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:42 pm

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_MacDonald" target="top">Wikipedia</a>: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Pierce adopted Cosmotheism as his religion in 1978. In effect it is a form of panentheism, a belief that God is the animating force within the universe. Moreover, Pierce's salutation of the "life principle" adumbrates the Christian Logos, his professed agnosticism notwithstanding. Cosmotheism asserts that "all is within God and God is within all." It considers the nature of reality and of existence to be mutable and destined to co-evolve towards a complete "universal consciousness," or godhood. Cosmos means an orderly and harmonious universe and thus the divine is tantamount to reality and consciousness, an inseparable part of an orderly, harmonious, and whole universal system. In his speech "Our Cause", Pierce said: "All we require is that you share with us a commitment to the simple, but great, truth which I have explained to you here, that you understand that you are a part of the whole, which is the creator, that you understand that your purpose, the purpose of mankind and the purpose of every other part of creation, is the creator's purpose, that this purpose is the never-ending ascent of the path of creation, the path of life symbolized by our life rune, that you understand that this path leads ever upward toward the creator's self-realization, and that the destiny of those who follow this path is godhood." His interpretation of cosmotheism developed from several disparate sources: interpretations of George Bernard Shaw's play Man and Superman; strains of German Romanticism; Darwinian concepts of natural selection and of survival of the fittest, mixed with the related early 20th century eugenic ideals; and Ernst Haeckel's version of monism. Pierce described his form of panentheism as being based on "[t]he idea of an evolutionary universe ... with an evolution toward ever higher and higher states of self-consciousness," and his political ideas were centered on racial purity and eugenics as the means of advancing the white race first towards a superhuman state, and then towards godhood. In his view, the white race represented the pinnacle of human evolution thus far and therefore should be kept genetically separate from all other races in order to achieve its destined perfection in Godhood. Pierce believed in a hierarchical society governed by what he saw as the essential principles of nature, including the survival of the fittest. In his social schema, the best-adapted genetic stock, which he believed to be the white race, should remain separated from other races; and within an all-white society, the most fit individuals should lead the rest. He thought that extensive programs of "racial cleansing" and of eugenics, both in Europe and in the U.S., would be necessary to achieve this socio-political program.<hr></blockquote> Remember New Orleans? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The National Alliance which he founded was to be the political vanguard and the spiritual priesthood of this program, which was designed ultimately to bring about a "white racial redemption". His Cosmotheist Community Church, which was to be the next step of this plan, was set up in the mid-1970s, alongside Pierce's other political projects - the National Alliance, National Vanguard Books, and the weekly broadcast American Dissident Voices - all from his mountain retreat headquarters in Mill Point, West Virginia. Pierce's views have been characterized as a version of early twentieth century racial anthropology, but driven by spiritual, as well as scientific, beliefs. This area of his belief was likely influenced by his early association with George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party. Others have noted the German Romantic roots that Pierce's ideas shared with Nazism and have observed similarities between the two ideologies: Pierce's plan for white divinity was similar to Adolf Hitler's vision for the Herrenvolk; also, his attacks against Jews as parasites on white society, who would prevent the white race from reaching its destined godhood by replacing the white elite with their own kind, echoed previous Nazi descriptions of Jewish traits and character (source: [[2]]).<hr></blockquote> Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=qutb>Qutb</A> at: 9/30/05 7:52 pm

by **Dreams End** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:13 pm

I guess I'd like a better understanding of the connections of the establishment right with the fascist right....HOW directly does US intel influence this little Islamo/fascist alliance? Also, to what degree does this line of thinking lead to the type of stereotyping and ethnic conspiracy theories we've just been condemning? (Ethnic is not the right term...muslims come in all races, of course.) Just as importantly, how do we begin to talk about all this in a way that doesn't simply sound like the very type of language used in the "war on terror"? I mean...aren't we OFFICIALLY against nazis AND terrorists? to what extent do the Nazi allied Islamic ideologues have influence over Islam as a whole? If widely known, would this information scandalize mainstream muslims? Are we simply providing more fodder for Muslim detention camps (an idea that I"m sure has made it up the chain of command already but hasn't yet been instituted.) Is this information widely known among American Jewish leaders? Are ADL and related orgs "gatekeeping" when it comes to the deep Nazi roots of US intelligence while going after "skinheads"? Are they confronted on this? So many questions.

by **proldic** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:43 pm

I posted this before: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In “A Season for Justice: The Life and Times of Civil Rights Lawyer Morris Dees”, Southern Poverty Law Center founder and internationally-renowned Dees writes of his first major case. In it, he and his legal team defended the Vietnamese “Boat People”, of Galveston, Texas. These refugees were former officers in the US-trained and supported ARVN, otherwise known as the “South Vietnamese Army”, who had been brought to the Texas coastal area and given 0-interest USAID loans to buy boats so they could partake in their traditional trade in shrimping. They were to a T fascist ideologues, and many of them were implicated in the worst cases of torture and war crimes in the Vietnamese war. This influx came up head-to-head with a ruined southern economy and a under equipped and equally suffering native (white) shrimpers that made up a big part of the economy there. The competition for limited fishing areas, coupled with resentment by the long-time local fishermen over the brand-new boats and different fishing practices of the Vietnamese understandably added up to a volatile atmosphere. Eventually the Klan snaked their way in (invited by some locals) and led a protest. Vietnamese boats were burned, and more violence was on the horizon. In stepped Dees and his newly-founded SPLC. He ended up successfully suing the Klan chapter, stopping the protests, and cementing the “Boat Peoples” role in the Texas fishing industry. This case established Dees as an anti-racist hero to the left, and became a celebrated cause for the divide-and-conquer anti-populist forces that Dees spawned (like Chip “John Foster” Berlet) leading to the successful attacks on the former farmers (and shrimpers) who had been organizing into armed bands called “militias”. 2 reasons I mention this: 1.In the book Dees admits that his lead investigator at the SLPC was a communist party informant for the FBI in the ‘50’s. 2. Guess who was his lead counsel on the boat people case? [drum roll please...] None other than Phillip Zelikow. Chew on that for a bit<hr></blockquote>

by **Watchful Citizen** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:48 am

(Zelikow reaks of CIA and is a major 9/11 gatekeeper. He makes Ramsey Clark look well-intentioned but clumsy, my take on Clark. Reading Zelikow's resume at this outdated sourcewatch.org link curls one's proverbial hair.) <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Philip_D._Zelikow">www.sourcewatch.org/wiki....D._Zelikow</a> .... According to Melvin Goodman, Zelikow "headed a case study project at Harvard and took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the CIA. He used CIA documentation and produced case studies that exonerated the CIA from any charges of politicization of intelligence, particularly with regard to the Soviet Union." [6] (<a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/29/1513213)">www.democracynow.org/arti...9/1513213)</a> from Emad Mekay for IPS, 29 March 2004 (<a href="http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=2307<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> :">ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=2307<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> :</a> "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation. "And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow. The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so far cost the lives of nearly 1200 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis, was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.

by **proldic** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:39 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation. "And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow. The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so far cost the lives of nearly 1200 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis, was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.<hr></blockquote> I dispute that Zelikow's statement leads to that conclusion, and I question your motivations in trying to mis-portray it in that way. He's actually being factually accurate, there. a) "Israel" as it is now is doomed, it's a pariah in the "world community", under a 40+ year threat of invasion from it's neighbors, and dissolving it's national sovereignty -- no matter how much one feels it was unjustly obtained -- is the prime toe-hold of the NWO. b) Europeans don't support Israel, not to mention the stain of spasmodic Euro-Jew scapegoating that has never really been attoned for. Sure it's a "hard sell" in the US, Americans are very wary of the corruption of their government, and when led to see certain outside forces as paritcularly responsible, are eager to fall for it, it's very psychological in the US. Sure the US doesn't want to "lean on it" too much, because in the long run they don't actually support it in the long run,but a little leaning now don't hurt to throw people off the track.. So to quote this sentence as a conclusion on the war on Iraq is more than just "a stretch", it shows something very malicious. To me, WC is quite obviously playing into a frankly despicable and "treasonous" historical scapegoating that has been perpetrated on the US public for many, many years in many, many forms. So WC has no problem whipping up the spectre of foreign-infiltration and Jewish "fifth columns" as well (and ultimately better than) any "war on (Muslim) terror", despite the fact that it is leading vast numbers of otherwise intelligent folks 180 degress away from the center of the real conspiracy. No matter how wrong it was then, or it is now. Has WC come here to be rigorously self-credibilizing, yet spreading some of the deepest of limited hangout. Was DE's intuition right about him? Yikes! The concept that "Washington" was actually motivated by a desire to defend the Jewish state when they invaded Iraq is demonstrably false. They are not currently interested in protecting the national sovereignty of the state of Israel. As an example, the most recent dual letters signed by more than a hundred "former" CIA and MI-6 "diplomats", taking a strong "anti-Israel" stance, and demanding Bush and Blair force a US-mediated "UN settlement" immediately, is indicative of the real views of the "establishment", and part of an elaborate push-pull stage show being orchestrated to foll the US-Euro intellectuals. Now, most people in the US will be primed to probably see that as some genuine factional conflict within the "establishment". But these veteran intelligence assets and agents are in no way "outsiders". And the factions are false straw men. The real conspiracy, the one that even hardcore David Icke fans and hollow-earthers poo-poo, is the consiracy that posits the entire "neo-con" vs the "old guard" farce. It is a charade, people. Do "factions" exist? Absolutely. Is there an Israeli Zionist "5th column" inside the US? Certainly. Are there Jews and "Christian Zionists" who would defend the existence of the state of Israel by "any means necessary", and align themselves with whichever party they see will -- in their limited, short-term way -- "protect" Israel. Yes. There is another level, however, a more important level -- much closer to the source of power -- who are manipulating those "friends of Israel", both from the left and the right. These "neo-cons" are actually committed globalists and fascists, and an effect of their overall world goals should be seen as anti-"Israeli". Heck, if there wasn't such a concerted campaign to put the focus on "Zionism-Israel", if the scapegoating "noise" coming from every quarter of the real establishment, establishment intellectuals, academia, and the faux counter-culture wasn't so obviously loud, if there wasn't so much daily spreading of sophisticated, subtle and insidious blame-"Zionists" (defenders of a Jewish nationalist identity) like WC is here to do -- so incredibly systematically -- then people would be able to clearly assess the way the current reality is progressing. They'd see that Zelikow, and the "neo-cons", are more traitors to Israel than supporters -- if by "supporting Israel" you mean eventually seeing a continuation of a sovereign socialist state founded to provide refuge and national identity to the post-holocaust Jewish diaspora, backed by jewish "affirmative action" in any future amalgamation that might be negotiated by the dominant world powers. Of course the issue will be milked for years by the NWO -- as long as possible -- and the US-backed "fifth column" in Israel will continue to illegally and unpopularly retain power and act as provacateurs in the region, despite the will of the vast number of Israelis for a reasonable peace. To say you are being lied to is not being "patronizing". If you think we're not exposed to the deepest of "bad memes" here, if you think that you're so well-innoculated against disinfo, if you don't think that the most insidious and dangerously subtle purveyors of lies are in the academia, the counter-culture, NPR-PBS-BBC-Pacifica, and the conspiracy crowd, fuck patronizing -- you're risking being both pompous and naive, not to mention complicit in spreading fascism. Yeah, go check what is dominant and popular in those NPR/PBS/Academia circles, and it's there you're going to find the real "deep black lies". There are many more substantial and dangerous lies from that community, the community leading either consciously, subconsciously, and many completely unwittingly (ever notice how many left-wing US jews make up many of the leadership positions in anti-Israel activist groups like the ISM, and the Palestinian support groups? Kind of puts the lie to the idea of a "monlithic jewish bloc", huh?) the "look-over-here-at Israel/Palestine" meme, than from, say, FOX. The Israeli "5th column" is no where near as influential as the non-"Zionist"-faux or non-religious extremely Nazified fascists that make up the vast bulk of the "establishment". The real "5th column" in a democracy is capitalism. And who's that you ask? That's daddy Bush, and James Baker, and the humongous dominant lineage of state dept. officials, ambassadors, foreign service officers, CIA agents, generals, etc. that have truly "sold the US out", to world wide globalized fascism, via groups like the virulently-anti-semitic World Anti-Communist League. These are the guys that burned the Jews in the ovens. And notice that I don't say "The Arab Lobby". Because, although on the surface, it might look like these guys -- many of them the most cozy veterans of Middle Eastern, Near-East, and South Asian openly-fascist dictatorships and theocracys with a thousand times more Muslim blood on their hands than the IDF -- are shills to the Saudis, etc, it's, at the root, 100% the other way around. Just like with the "Israeli lobby", my life-long study of political history and acceptance of all elements of "the truth", shows me that to see any of the real elites as "traitors" or "5th columnists" to global capitalist US-based world government, is pretty flawed, considering they represent the core of our US-based capitalist system, and always have. Don't think for a minute that Zelikow, working intimately with virulently-anti-semitic fascists like the ARVN officer corps, spreading racial divide-and-conquer, best friends of the Nazi anti-communists, is seconding his allegiance to global fascism over concern for Israeli citizens. Don't think for a minute that daddy's intimate Brent Scrowcroft is really any kind of "outsider", and not merely playing a role in one of the deepest charades known to history. Once again, who's being scapegoated? Joos Get a historical clue before it's too late for any of us.

by **Watchful Citizen Pissed O** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:06 pm

"So WC has no problem whipping up the spectre of foreign-infiltration and Jewish "fifth columns" Jeezus fucking keerist. This is tedious, proldic. THAT'S A SOURCEWATCH SNIP OF AN IPN ARTICLE ABOUT ZELIKOW, NOT MY WORDS. (Perhaps I should've better lineated that since you and Dreams End are throwing around accusations at the drop of a hat. Must I start every post with "I don't hit people with baseball bats or love Nazis"?? COINTELPRO rides again. Don't do this to this website, ok?) You are criticising not my words but the words of Emad McKay in an article at the link in front of your face to an Inter Press News Service article about Zelikow's statement which also includes A CONTRARY STATEMENT to debunk Zelikow's. But you were too busy chasing the anti-semites in your mind. Chip Berlet knows what he's doing, doesn't he? "Don't mention Mossad, ADL, or neocon Zionists in PNAC lest you get tarred as a Nazi." Here's more of that same article with another source REFUTING Zelikow's comments about the US and Israel. <a href="http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23078">ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23078</a> >snip< ”They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it, people are trying to read something into it,” said Nathan Brown, professor of political science at George Washington University and an expert on the Middle East. But he downplayed the Israel link. ”In terms of securing Israel, it doesn't make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the long-term strategic threat,” he said. Still, Brown says Zelikow's words carried weight. ”Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it doesn't strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about for justification for a decision that has already been made,” Brown said. >snip< Closing books on that snip. Just cut this anti-semitic accusation shit now, OK? Some otherwise very astute people at this website are falling prey to COINTELPRO suspicions and knee-jerk accusations. The single most important history I am researching and revealing is the US-Nazi alliance and the insidious use of 'Mein Kampf' to run this country with fascist MindWar principles as outlined in that William Donovan 'Morale Operations' document which I just posted here. Did you miss that, proldic? The topic of fascism with its many players is much much larger than you make it out to be when you reduce it to *either pro-Nazi or pro-Israel.* You're falling into a mindset deliberately used to polarize in the same way Chip Berlet does so beware. Short blurb on a longer post I'm writing- I'm now researching to find out why in the world Ramsey Clark would defend accused Nazi war criminals being deported. I have a lengthy post I'm still writing on that topic but you're nasty smear on me has eaten up time and energy. I went to the website you linked to, The Emperor's New Clothes, to read Jared Israel's material on Ramsey Clark and the deportation of accused Nazi war criminals. The website is 95% about the state of Israel and has some very complicated analysis suggesting the White House INTENDS to have a strong Muslim state in Iraq that I'm not sure I understand. Mr. Israel gets lost in his own pro-Israel focus against all enemies (there are certainly many) and excoriates Ramsey Clark for being hostile to the Office of Special Investigations (on illegal Nazi immigrants to the US) but then he goes on to ALSO excoriate the OSI for being a whitewash limited hang-out operation to control revelations of the US-Nazi alliance. So Jared Israel want it both ways-"Ramsey Clark is another Pat Buchanon for criticising the OSI and here is why the OSI is a Nazi cover-up operation." So you see that neither your nor Jared Israel's inferring motives is accurate or helpful in sorting out friend from foe on the topic of Nazis and the state of Israel, rather the opposite. On the other hand, I found Jared Israel's articles about the early 1980s revelations of US harboring of Klaus Barbie very informative and tells me alot about why the OSI was put together at that time and maybe why Ramsey Clark ( who gravitates towards every public patsy of the alphabet agencies and is, I'm sorry to say, not that bright or articulate about what he is doing having attained his position as Attorney General from his father's career nepotism) criticized the OSI and gave yet another handle to his detractors. I'm really thinking Clark is not clever but clumsy. I know this doesn't fall into the standard perception of COINTELPRO diabolical subterfuge but so be it. There are useful well-meaning idiots and clever scoundrels to be harvested in psy-ops to protect hidden history and traitorous alliances. Don't forget that the Reagan/Bush cabal was on the public ropes with IranContra reports and links to death squads so the OSI's morality theater would serve to recharge the US myth of 'Saving the World From Hitler' which is its single most effective credit card in the foreign war stage. I have to go do other things now, more later. Oh, and by the way: I DON'T HIT PEOPLE WITH BASEBALL BATS OR LOVE NAZIS. Print this out and tape it to your computer for future reference.

by **Qutb** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:42 pm

Dreams End Good questons, I don't have any good answers to suggest. But consider the following: - Tim McVeigh was trained at Elohim City by German neo-Nazi Andreas Strassmeier. Strassmeier's grandfather was one of the original members of the NSDAP - Hitler's Nazi party. His father, Günther Strassmeier, was West German/German chancellor Helmut Kohl's chief of staff and one of the chief architects of German reunification following the fall of the Berlin wall. The wall came down November 9, 1989 - written 9/11 in Europe - a date of great significance to Nazis (it's the same date as Hitler's 1923 beer hall putsch and the 1938 Krystallnacht). - Andreas Strassmeier is not only a neo-Nazi - he is also a former German Army intel officer. What's more - according to a 1995 FBI memorandum, he attempted to purchase a Boeing 747 from Lufthansa. - McVeigh's co-conspirator Terry Nichols was probably present at a "terrorism seminar" in the Philippines in 1994. In attendance were members of the "al-Qaida-linked" Abu Sayyaf guerrilla, and two Iraqis. Also attending was another, unnamed, American. Couldn't possibly have been Michael Meiring? - All of the above was covered up by the FBI, the Clinton administration, and the 9/11 Commission. It is still being covered up. - Abu Sayyaf is alleged to be a false-flag creation of the United States of America. - The "Bojinka plot" was planned in 1995 in the Philippines by, among others, Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. KSM was named as the mastermind of the 9/11 attack by the 9/11 Commission. 9/11 was based on the Bojinka plot. - The Bojinka plot did not only include hijacking airplanes and flying them into tall buildings, but also the blowing up of federal buildings - which was carried out shortly afterwards by McVeigh and Nichols, perhaps with the help of Strassmeier (some think he's John Doe 2). - Elements of the Bojinka plot are eerily reminiscent of fictional terrorist attacks carried out by "patriotic" white Americans in neo-Nazi William Luther Pierce's "The Turner Diaries" from 1978, which inspired Tim McVeigh. Pierce warned, in 1998, that Bin Laden was going to strike America, and that if you work in New York, in buildings approximating the size of the WTC, you better bring a helmet to work. Pierce was born September 11, 1933 (though I doubt the date was chosen, or changed from November 9, in honor of him, still...). Swiss Nazi banker Francois Genoud's friend, German neo-Nazi and convert to Islam Achmed Huber, attended a Nazi-Islamist conference in Chicago and has connections to Pierce's group. - Francois Genoud's friend Baudoin Dunand is a director of the Bin Laden family's European holding company, SICO. - Francois Genoud met Hitler in 1932 and remained an unrepentant Nazi all his life. After WWII, he set out to befriend Arab dictators with Hitler's finance minister and former central banker Hjalmar Schacht. - Mohammed Atta was brought to Germany and his 8 years there were funded by the Carl Duisberg Society, which is named after the man who invented chemical warfare, WWI-era Bayer boss Carl Duisberg. Bayer was a part of the IG Farben cartel, which was the main financial power behind Hitler. (Bayer, by the way, invented heroin). The CDS allegedly has connections to Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller and such people. - Atta had several German friends whom he called "brothers", and who came to visit him several times in Florida. According to Hopsicker, they were "sons and daughters of German industrialists". One of them was the son of the head of the Seventh Day Adventists in Germany. - Omar Saed Sheikh, who wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta on instructions from ISI chief Ahmed, recited parts of Mein Kampf by heart (as if it were the Koran), according to Bernhard-Henri Lévy (author of "Who Killed Daniel Pearl"). - Etc... I don't know what it all means, but it's got to mean something. According to a French judge whose name I don't remember, but who investigates terrorism cases, young Islamists often tell him "you love life, we love death". That may be propaganda, but let's suppose it's true. And why shouldn't it be - anyone who thinks every suicide bombing that happens anywhere in the world is false flag, is incredibly naive. Young Islamists do blow themselves up, in order to kill others. They may be incited to do so by agents provocateurs, in some cases, but they do it nonetheless. This kind of death cult is very alien to traditional Islam, which emphasizes living a moral life above all (even more than Christianity does). In fact, it's almost it's polar opposite. Suicide is forbidden in Islam. What it does resemble more than anything is Nazism, or even satanism. Leftists get uneasy discussing this, because talk of "Islamofascist satanists" reeks of Weekly Standard and Fox News. Of black propaganda intended to incite racial hatred and to justify wars of conquest disguised as war on terrorism. But isn't it true? Aren't the similarities between radical Islamism and National Socialism obvious? Whom are we doing a service by looking away from this uncomfortable fact, or by constructing elaborate conspiracies to theorize it out of existence? Radical Islamists believe in cultural segregation, Islamic supremacy, a feudal model of society under aristocratic leadership. Conquest by violence. A warrior ethos. Strict patriarchy. Merging temporal and spiritual power, which is what Hitler admired and sought to emulate in the Dalai Lama. Their enemies are the same: Zionism, socialism, democracy. And Hitler killed himself, as did many other top Nazis, as well as Francois Genoud. In a Nazi death cult, committing suicide is seen as a noble thing to do, which it is not in Islam (meaning ordinary, traditional Islam, not the perverted quasi-Islam of the Islamists). Do remember that the Mufti of Jerusalem, Yassir Arafat's uncle and mentor, was made a major in the SS by his friend Hitler. Remember Hjalmar Schacht, who was one of the key people engineering Hitler's rise to power, and a member of the close-knit group of central bankers which included the Bank of England's Montagu Norman and the Fed's Benjamin Strong: "National Socialism will triumph, without having to fight another war". After WWII, Francois Genoud and Hjalmar Schacht set out to befriend the leaders of the Muslim world. Meanwhile, in America... In 1988, the son of an associate of Hitler's most important financial backer was elected president of the United States. Among the members of his campaign team were several old East European Nazis. During his presidency, Germany is re-united, with the help of the aforementioned Günther Strassmeier, son and father of Nazis. In Italy, neo-fascists are brought to power in the right-wing coalition headed by P2 member Silvio Berlusconi, whose milieu allegedly overlaps with that of the al-Taqwa bank, financer of Islamists. Another very important event happens during the presidency of Bush the elder: the previously very succesful multi-ethnic, multi-religious, socialist, non-aligned republic of Yugoslavia disintegrates into a bloddy civil war. The republics of Slovenia and Croatia secede, and the newly reunited Germany surprises everyone by unilaterally recognizing them as sovereign nations, thereby sabotaging a potential diplomatic solution. Bin Laden makes his second appearance as guerrilla leader of radical Islamists. Some of whom are recruited in London by the MI6... According to Der Spiegel, Osama meets with Bosnian Muslim president Izetbegovich in 1993. And according to a Dutch parliamentary report, some of those Islamists are brought into the country by US military intelligence. The old Bosnian Muslim SS division created by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem is resurrected. Many of its recruits are sons and grandsons of veterans of the Albanian Iskander SS Division. They would later form the Kosovo Liberation Army, trained by the SAS and by German intel. Clinton, Blair, Schröder and Chirac finish the dismantling of Yugoslavia in 1999. The most successful socialist country in the world, one of the leaders of the <a href="http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/n/no/non-aligned_movement1.htm" target="top">non-aligned movement</a>, was reduced to a group of subservient bantustans waiting for permission to join the EU. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The Non-Aligned Movement, or NAM is an international organization of over 100 states which consider themselves not formally aligned with or against any major power bloc. NAM focuses on national struggles for independence, the eradication of poverty, economic development and opposing colonialism, imperialism, and neo-colonialism. They represent 55% of the planet's people and nearly two-thirds of the UN's membership. (...) The Non-Aligned Movement has struggled to find relevance since the end of the Cold War; in 2004, Malta and Cyprus stopped being members of NAM and joined the European Union. (...) The term "Non-Alignment" itself was coined by Indian Prime Minister (Indian statesman and leader with Gandhi in the struggle for home rule; was the first prime minister of the Republic of India from 1947 to 1964 (1889-1964)) Jawaharlal Nehru during his speech in 1954 in Colombo, Sri-Lanka. In this speech, Nehru described the five pillars to be used as a guide for Sino-Indian relations. Called Panchsheel, these principles would later serve as the basis of the Non-Aligned Movement. The five principles were: 1. Respect for territorial integrity 2. Mutual non-aggression 3. Mutual non-interference in domestic affairs 4. Equality and mutual benefit 5. Peaceful co-existence The origin of the Non-aligned movement can be traced to a conference hosted in Bandung, Indonesia in 1955. The world's "non-aligned" nations declared their desire not to become involved in the East-West ideological confrontation of the Cold War. Bandung marked a significant milestone for the development of NAM as a political movement. However it was six years later in September of 1961, largely through the initiative of Josip Broz Tito, then-president of Yugoslavia, that the first official Non-Aligned Movement Summit was held. As well as Tito and Nehru, the other prominent world leaders instrumental in getting NAM off the ground were (Egyptian statesman who nationalized the Suez Canal (1918-1870)) Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt and (Indonesian statesman who obtained the independence of Indonesia from the Netherlands in 1949 and served as president until ousted by Suharto in a coup d'etat (1901-1970)) Sukarno of Indonesia.<hr></blockquote> Exeunt omnis, enter Bush II and the neo-cons. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:52 pm

Wow! Dave Emory would be proud. (I miss having his voice lull me to sleep on KFPK in L.A. Good content...presentation a bit soporific). Great and interesting work. Who else, if anyone, is putting these things together?

by **Qutb** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:26 pm

"Who else, if anyone, is putting these things together?" No one that I am aware of. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Which is crazy-making to contemplate, because all of the information above appears legit and fairly well-sourced - certainly more so than all the Youssef Bodansky bullshit linking Osama to Saddam and so on - and paints a very different picture of the events of the last 15 years than what most conspiracy sites, alternative internet media, left-wing publications, right-wing publications and mainstream media do... and this information is out there, and the dots should actually be easy to connect, once you manage to break out of your political conditioning. But I'm starting to realize how profoundly the entire spectrum of political opinions and worldviews are controlled and engineered by the "PTB"... not least what passes for left-wing and alternative analysis. Signal-to-noise ratio 1:99. What we have is... 1) An "alternative" left-wing which is increasingly chasing the mother of all distractions, Israel and Zionism, while pretending that Islamofascism doesn't exist and every terrorist attack is false flag. 2) A right-wing which is enthusiastically cheering the US-led assault on sovereign nations, the militarization of American society and the gradual repeal of the constitution, because "the liberals" are against it and because they believe the Muslim world has declared war on America. 3) A mainstream which is sceptical of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq, and which would like to see Hillary elected because they believe Hillary would do a much better job of involving the UN and creating a consensus among "our allies" about the need to pursue the "war on terrorism" through "multilateral means" and to "prevent Iran from developing WMD". Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **albion** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:43 pm

Sander Hicks new book appears to take more or less this line. <a href="http://www.sanderhicks.com/chapter9.html">www.sanderhicks.com/chapter9.html</a>

by **Qutb** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:54 pm

Wow, Albion, thanks! I didn't know about that. It looks extremely interesting. I have to attend to other business now, but I'll read it later. Good to know there still are some genuine, rigorous researchers out there. One quote which I think is spot on, concerning al-Qaida: "the religious aspects of the movement are a disguise". I didn't know that al-Qaida can actually mean "the anus". Interesting... Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **robertdreed** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:50 am

What could be more of a mind-control project than indoctrinating suicide bombers? My position on suicide bombing terrorism is simple- as a "weapon of the weak", it's a completely unacceptable tactic. Especially when the targets are civilians. It needs to be put off the table as abhorrent. Like the use of nuclear weapons, it's out of bounds. Nihilistic. Among other things, it is THE tactic that legitimizes pre-emption as a response. Because the attempt at denying public space to ordinary citizens de facto makes the entire nation a battlefield. Thus playing into the hands of the hard-liners and exponents of martial law. The reactionaries are the ultimate beneficiaries, in a practical sense. It's too bad that there are those too self-righteous to realize this. I think Jared Israel has some important points to make on the actual nature of the Palestinian cause, by the way. It's ironic, while I disagree with proldic that "capitalism" is the ultimate villain in world affairs, I dislike his paranoia in identifying anyone holding a differing opinion as an agent of conspiracy, and I find his hair-trigger willingness to fire accusations of "anti-Semitism" off-putting- I still think it's well worth considering his analysis of the Israel situation. Convoluted though it is, it renders him as more than a self-contradicting knee-jerk apologist for anything involving Israel. And conspiratorial politics does in fact follow trails of the sort that he describes, built of all sorts of trap doors that seek to confound and exploit "normal" logical trains of thought- double-cross systems intended to confuse people looking for the simplest and most direct path between disparate fragments of evidence in attempts to reconcile them, even at the cost of fitting together puzzle pieces that on closer examination are found to be outside of the "range of tolerance." I'm a Dave Emory fan myself. Although I think that as far as the format goes, the presentation of this material is better suited to text and hyperlinks than to radio broadcasting. Such a plethora of names and events... Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/1/05 11:46 pm

by **Qutb** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:19 pm

From the Sander Hicks link above: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>My SEC contact pointed out, "Terrorist money-mover Sami Al-Arian was so effective in Florida, the fifty thousand Muslims who had traditionally voted Democrat overwhelmingly swung Republican. Bush also received campaign support from Khaled Elgindy, who headed the Texas cause, and George Salem, who headed national efforts from Washington, DC in 2000."<hr></blockquote> The American representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood were fund-raising for Bush in 2000, and doing a good job at it. It was apparently important for the Brotherhood that Bush, and not Gore, be elected... why? And who are the Brothers, really? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>My SEC contact has been tracking the Muslim Brotherhood for a while: "My task force work for SEC Chicago began in 1999 (following international banks), as Rita Katz was tasked to cover non-profits.... I was tasked with others to explore manipulation and control of securities markets." And what have you learned of Muslim Brotherhood? "They worked for Ibn Saud to help him unite Arabia, they worked for British intelligence, they worked for French intelligence, they work for U.S. intelligence, a mercenary band 'hiding behind Islam' which is why most of them are cokeheads and alcoholics who simply agitate to attract any psycho or disaffected they can to their ranks. The big question has been, for whom are they working? And the answer seems to be the transnational Reich movement." The Reich movement. The Nazis. The neo-Nazis. The Far Right neo-cons. The New Fascists. Hold onto your seats. There's proof. <hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Finally, the government is doing its job and busting the bad guys. Right? Maybe not. Terrorism expert Rita Katz observed a high level of harassment when she participated in the SAAR investigation: "The CIA was investigating me and the SAAR investigators from Green Quest and Customs. The CIA and the FBI investigated everyone who had anything to do with the SAAR investigation. White vans and SUV's with dark windows appeared near all the homes of the SAAR investigators. All agents, some of whom were very experienced with surveillance, knew they were being followed. So was I. I felt that I was being followed everywhere and watched, at home, in the supermarket, on the way to work...and for what?...I don't know for certain what's the deal with the CIA investigating the SAAR investigators, but it sure feels as if someone up in that agency doesn't like the idea that the Saudi Arabian boat is rocked." Clinton White House National Security Council aides first urged an investigation of the SAAR Network, in 1998. But the FBI refused. Their reason? The Washington Post reported that "the FBI declined because of fears that a probe would be seen as ethnic profiling." I have to wonder if the Washington Post and the FBI are secretly stifling hard laughter. "Ethnic profiling?" This is the same FBI that harassed the Black Panthers into early graves, the same FBI who told Martin Luther King he should go commit suicide. "Ethnic profiling" is a polite, PC excuse, when really the truth has got to be closer to this: the FBI had a severe unwillingness to disturb the money flow of an Islamic charity with connections to the Saudis, and the Far Right. Once again, the FBI acts like the little brother following orders of the fatter, stronger, colder, aloof CIA. Their "negligence" had serious, direct effects. Even two neo-Nazis seem to have had foreknowledge of the 9/11 disaster. <hr></blockquote> <img src="http://www.trackingthethreat.com/content/images/entpic1469.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Achmed Huber Swiss-German neo-Nazi and convert to Islam, protégé of Johann Von Leers, who produced anti-Semitic propaganda under Joseph Goebbels, and who later did the same for President Nasser in Egypt. While working for Nasser, Johann changed his name to Omar Von Leers. Huber claims to have had foreknowledge of 9/11. -------- From the <a href="http://voxpopnet.net/index.php?id=54&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=69&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=41&cHash=eb5925cbb8" target="top">table of contents</a> of Hick's book: 1: Randy Glass: "Jewish Joe Pesci," Wiseguy, and Spy While his appearance on Dateline/NBC was intriguing, the most important parts of FBI whistle-blower Randy Glass's story were left on the cutting room floor. Sander's interviews with Glass reveal that Pakistani spy R.G. Abbas told the FBI “those towers are coming down” years before 9/11. Glass, in July 2001, had State Department contacts tell him, “Randy listen, you cannot mention any of these things, especially airplanes being used to fly into the World Trade Center.” (...) 4: The Enigma of Atta: The Precedent of Double Agent Egyptians Building on Hopsicker's work, Hicks publishes some breakthroughs on Atta: For the first time in book form, Big Wedding publishes a letter from jailed FBI whistle-blower Richard Taus which provides new proof that Mohamed Atta had ties to CIA and ISI. Hicks breaks the story of Egyptian informant Emad Salem who on audio tape, discusses with FBI handler John Anticev how the '93 World Trade Center bomb was built with "FBI Supervision." Hicks then looks at Ali Mohamed, the CIA/FBI informant who was a key player in the 1993 WTC, as well as the 1998 Embassy bombings. Based on Hopsicker's work, his own new research, and these precedents, Hicks's conclusion is original and startling: Atta was a double agent. 5: Wildcard! Across Canada with Delmart Vreeland In August of 2001, a con-man with connections to Naval Intelligence, Delmart Vreeland, wrote a note from inside a Canadian jail. He desperately tried to warn Canadian and U.S. authorities of an impending attack. Hicks alone traveled to Toronto to get the full story. It turns out the slick, double-talking Vreeland is now working for Ambassador Leo Wanta, a Reagan White House covert operator and friend of President George H. W. Bush. (...) 7: Whackjob! My Life with Richard Ben-Veniste and Kenneth Feinberg Hicks details his personal experiences with 9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste, who effectively answered “No Comment” to him three different times in their interview for INN World Report television. Hicks, while reporting for Long Island Press was browbeaten by 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund “Special Master” Kenneth Feinberg. Hicks proudly details how he later came to be called a “Whackjob” by Ben-Veniste, outside the Commission's hearings, on the streets of New York City. Feinberg and Ben-Veniste's strong-arm, passive/aggressive behavior indicates that they were selected for their proven skills in crisis-management and cover-up. (...) 11: Florida Notebook: Randy Glass and Arnie Kruithoff in Terrorland Returning to Randy Glass, via a trip to Florida, Hicks finds the FBI Whistleblower at home with a lot more to say: in person, Glass admits to Hicks that he knew of 9/11 in July of 2001 (“I knew city and date.”) Glass says he personally warned Senator Bob Graham in a face-to-face meeting, and relates his combative experiences testifying to a secret session of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11. 12: The Big Wedding: The Call to Satyagraha and Revolution Hicks argues against the neo-con agenda using the work of Gandhi, & Martin Luther King and calls for peaceful, immediate, revolution. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

Ramsey Clark: Key Defender of Nazi War Criminals

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ADL 'Gatekeeping' While Going After Skinheads?

Far from the Ramsey path but Zelikow warrants a reading.

Pavement on the road to hell

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