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Re: definition of dumb

Postby AnnaLivia » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:38 am

it's beyond obvious that what "white separatists" would have to do to succeed, by their definition, is to take a piece of the earth by force...because it is beyond obvious that if there were ANY place on the planet where ANY sizable group of people wanted these pee-brains amongst them, then they'd already HAVE their little nazi heaven behind walls. how fucking long have these adult infants been muling and whining for their sick dream? <br><br>just how utterly stupid and suicidal is it anyway, to invite and entice the hatred of the skin color you wear on earth, when your numbers are declining and those other skin colors are increasing? oh, wait...you must, deep down inside, be truly convinced that the pigment in their skins makes them wiser and kinder... more advanced in both intellect and compassion than "whitey" has been, and thus they will, when they're at the helm someday soon, accord you respect and recognize your equal rights and celebrate diversity, even though you despised it.<br><br>wish i could share your belief in their extraordinary supremacy, but damn if i don't suspect they're no better than me.<br><br>no man is an island. no community is, either, bub. you want to go live unbothered by the rest of the world with all its horrid rainbow of colors? fine.<br><br>just be sure you leave behind every good thing you currently enjoy that's ever been done by anyone except a white racist. list us their accomplishments and then off with you to your heavenly exile, but you will not be allowed to take any of the benefits that have been created by societies of brown, black, red, or yellow peoples.<br><br>it's back to the caves for you, monkeyman, eep eep oop oop.<br><br>unless you can kill the rest of us, including most "whites". how many guns you got?<br><br>by all means keep talking. personally, i think stupidity ought to be studied, not ignored. do hold forth and let us see your fatal philosophy in all its glory be. <p></p><i></i>
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separatism

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Re: separatism

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:37 am

woo-woo<br><br>what just happened to what I was reading?!!! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: separatism

Postby robertdreed » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:37 am

Nice...my six-paragraph essay just vanished. <br><br>Oh well, try and try again...<br><br>I think that racial separatists in this day and age are putting themselves and their kids at something of a disadvantage, personally. People who are comfortable with human diversity, cross-cultural fluency, and code-switching are at a premium in the modern world. It's approximately the same sort of advantage as knowing more than one language- although having command of another language is more of a systematic discipline, and the advantages take on the tangible, material form of pretty much guaranteeing you a better-paying job than you would have otherwise. But even if you aren't bi-lingual, tri-lingual, or polyglot, being a multikulti just plain helps out in life, and it makes people better and more cultured. Wehn cultures stay separate, they tend to develop unwholesome myths about the Other...I've noticed that they also tend to develop paranoid notions of the dire consequences of the "multicultural menace." Part of that is the television, which is a "multicultural" experience that everyone in theUSA is exposed to...if someone's only experience of multiculturalism is watching television and music videos, I suppose they can be forgiven for developing weird and unrealistic notions about the corrosive effcts of "multiculturalism." But that's also sort of pathetic. Tragic, even. <br><br>But, I don't really find "white separatism" to be a major problem in the USA as of now, except to the separatists themselves. As a menace, I find it over-hyped. <br><br>But what I <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">really</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> find to be over-hyping is the besieged mentality of the white separatists...to hear them talk, you know, white people are going extinct- depending on how far-gone the mentality is, some of them claim that white people are only 4-6 per cent of the world population, how paranoid is that?- and the way they whine on and on..."we aren't allowed to have any cultural events of our own, the rest of the world is ingrates, look what we've done for everybody, oh it's so hard being white, Affirmative Action, immigrants take our jobs..." etc. <br><br>I don't have time to unpack all that right now, point by point. Suffice it to say that the chorus of complaint rings hollow to me. What I notice most about my own people is their squandering of their own opportunities to improve themselves. Consider the "aliteracy" problem, for instance- people who can read, but don't. Look at all the yuppie types whose personalities begin and end with their pursuit of the newest toys. The sheer laziness, in so many ways...consider the American cornucopia of cultural events, with all it has to offer, and how poorly many of them are attended, even though they're oftentimes cheap or even free. Then there's the identification of the low level of mass culture with the increased influence of Negritude...clue to the white separatists: the way to defeat corrupt antisocial pop music junk is to go learn about, support, and create good music. But, funny thing, you'll find that the best music in America is made by multicultural musicians. Bluegrass music is influenced by black music. Country music is influenced by black music. Even Slim Whitman-type yodeling was a black musical form. Doc Watson put out a record a few years back with Bootsy Collins...I could go into a jazz lecture, but this essay is long enough already. <br><br>What I'm trying to say is that Skrewdriver and Prussian Blue are not the answer to the baneful influence of trite, misogynist pimpin' ho' rap music. The answer is to turn off that fucking stupid commercial radio and find something real. Too bad for the white separationists that as a class, musicians are perhaps the least racist demographic in the USA- and to judge by places from Colombia to Israel, it's like that all over the world. As if the artists were trying to tell us something. <br><br>The other thing that gets to me about white separatists is that they've been running this "forced integration" complaint <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>ever since the days of America's era of legally mandated apartheid.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Yes, the Dixiecrats were defending <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>legally enforced segregation by saying that abolishing it amounted to "forced integration." <br><br>Reflect on that a while.<br><br>If you can't figure out the Mr. Haney flim-flam in that one, well, all I can do is dedicate one of my favorite new songs to Jesse Helms...it's a Marvin Gaye sort of slow jam by Tood Rundgren, and the chorus goes<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>...so why you gotta be<br><br>such a lyin' ass muthafuck</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Yeah, Jesse Helms...someone ought to head down to his retirement home with a house-quaking set of woofers in a 6-foot cabinet and drop the new Big and Rich album on the party. Dig up Strom Thurmond and invite him... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: separatism

Postby robertdreed » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:40 am

You know, I went back to fix close one italic and poof! <br><br>"HTML comments are not allowed." <br><br>oh, is that Right? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: separatism

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:45 am

Turn Off the Radio<br><br>Crank up yo' speakers!<br><br>To every hustlin Strugglin Revolutionary Gang-bangin Chain-gangin <br><br>Tune yo' frequency...<br><br>I refuse to be a stereotype in ya box<br>Never wanna try to be somethin I'm not<br>I'm just a nigga from the block, if you got it twist it<br>Stay blowin on green, if you got it, twist it on up<br>DP's givin a fuck - R.B.G.'d up in some gangsta chucks<br>Throw ya fist up homie if ya know what's up<br>All my comrades puttin in soldier work<br>We rollin dirty wit it, fully dedicated<br><br>So real that the radio'll never play it<br>But that's cool, the enemy supposed to hate it<br><br>Freedom ain't gon' come til we regulate it<br><br>That's why I'm in the dojo, not just for the video<br>Really though, we really got beef with the po-po <br>Never know when they gon' put you in a chokehold<br>This is for you new niggaz, holdin for the radio<br><br>[Chorus]<br>Turn off the radio!<br>Turn off that bullshit! (freak-freak y'all)<br>Turn off the radio!<br>Turn off that bullshit! (freak-freak y'all)<br>Turn off the radio!<br>Turn off that bullshit! (freak-freak y'all)<br>Turn off the radio!<br><br>*phone rings*<br>[M-1] People's Radio<br>[Stic.] Yo hang up, that's the police<br><br>[M-1]<br>What's on the radio, propaganda, mind control<br>And turnin it on is like puttin on a blindfold<br>Cuz when you bringin the real you don't get ro-tation<br>Unless you take over the station<br>And yeah I know it's part of they plans<br>To make us think it's all about party and dancin<br>And yo it might sound good when you spittin your rap<br>But in reality, don't nobody live like that<br>You wanna know what kinda nigga I am?<br>Lemme tell you 'bout the nigga I'm not - I don't fuck with the<br>cops<br><br>Platinum don't mean that it gotta be hot<br>I ain't gotta love it, even if they play it a lot<br>You can hear it when you walk the streets<br>How many people they reach, how they use music to teach<br>A "radio program" ain't a figure of speech<br>Don't sleep, cuz you could be a radio freak (freak-freak y'all)<br><br>[Chorus]<br>Turn off the radio!<br>Turn off that bullshit! (freak-freak y'all)<br>Turn off the radio!<br>Turn off that bullshit! (freak-freak y'all)<br>Turn off the radio!<br><br>[Stic.] People's Radio, you on the air<br>[caller] I got a phat chain, I got a phat whip<br>[caller] I got a... *hang-up*<br>[Stic.] Nigga get off that bullshit!<br><br>Crank up your speackers, your woofers and your tweeters<br>Turn up your receivers, we bangin off the meter<br>Crank up your speackers, your woofers and your tweeters<br>Turn up your receivers, we bangin for the people<br>Crank up your speackers, your woofers and your tweeters<br>Turn up your receivers, we bangin off the meter<br><br>Freak-freak y'all, to the beat y'all<br>DP's dawg, we got the heat dawg<br>People's Radio, on ya stereo<br>For the ghettos, and the barrio<br><br>Call me.......<br><br>oohoohhoooohhhoooohohhooo<br><br>Dis code red, if u black, we need green, know what I'm sayin?<br><br>Michael Jordan, Oprah Winfrey,<br><br>hit me, hit me,<br><br>Michael Jackson, Bob & Whitney,<br><br>hit me, hit me,<br><br>Magic Johnson, we need bout fifty thousand,<br><br>hit me, hit me,<br><br>Doctor Huxtable, help us build a hospital.... <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: separatism

Postby robertdreed » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:47 am

Really, I doubt that it's sabotage... maybe I hit a stray key on the format page...ezboard...well, I told it already...<br><br>Love that copy and paste, though. I can print up another one real quick, y'hear? <p></p><i></i>
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White Night

Postby robertdreed » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:03 pm

What, you ain't up yet? Don't you know it's a holiday?<br><br>Party time! <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Brothers and sisters<br>We are here for one reason<br>And one reason alone<br>To share our love of music<br>I present to you<br>Country music without prejudice, hey<br><br>Country boys don't rock and roll<br>Yeah the record man told me so<br>Yeah you'll never get it on the radio<br>Why they trying to complicate<br>The simple music that we make<br>Oh cause if it moves my soul<br>I'm gonna keep on rollin, rollin<br><br>Hey, just wanna hear everybody say (rollin', rollin')<br>At the top of your lungs till the windows break (rollin', rollin')<br>Say hey, hey, hey<br><br>I ain't gonna shut my mouth<br>Don't mind if I stand out in a crowd<br>Just wanna live out loud<br>Well I know there's got to be<br>A few hundred million more like me<br>Just trying to keep it free, yeah<br><br>Hey, just wanna hear everybody say (rollin', rollin')<br>At the top of your lungs till the windows break (rollin', rollin')<br>Say hey, hey, hey<br><br>Charlie Pride was the man in black<br>Rock and roll use to be about Johnny Cash<br>Yeah whatcha think about that<br>Well I'm a crazy son-of -a-(bad word)<br>But I know I'm gonna make it big and rich<br>Yeah I'm gonna let it rip<br><br>Hey, just wanna hear everybody say (rollin', rollin')<br>At the top of your lungs till the windows break (rollin', rollin')<br>Say hey, Cowboy Troy<br><br>[Cowboy Troy]<br>Dum-diggity-dum, diggity-diggity-dum dig this<br>Slicker than the grease from a BBQ Briskit<br>Got more chunk than a fresh potato salad<br>You thought you had your answer<br>But your answer was invalid<br>Your looking at me crazy cause you think I'm loco<br>The big black cowboy, with the crazy vocal<br>Todas las personas gritando arriva<br>Now you heard it, now I know you a believer<br>Esta cancion es para toda la gente<br>Es muy importante a usar su mente<br>So let go of all your preconceived notions<br>Get up on your feet and put your body in motion<br>Cause back home we love to dance<br>We could be two-steppin, or ravin' to trance<br>And when the party is crunk, the girls back it up<br>We got the systems in the cars and the 20's on the trucks<br>6 foot four with a cowboy hat<br>I dont mess around, yo what's up with that<br>I'm Cowboy Troy, a Texas hick<br>And I'm rollin with the brothers<br>Big and Rich<br><br>Go cowboy go cowboy go<br>Go cowboy go cowboy go<br><br>Hey, just wanna hear everybody say (rollin', rollin')<br>At the top of your lungs till the windows break (rollin', rollin')<br>Say hey, hey, hey<br><br>Hey, just wanna hear everybody say (rollin', rollin')<br>At the top of your lungs till the windows break (rollin', rollin')<br>Say hey, hey, hey</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/30/05 9:06 am<br></i>
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Re: White Night

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:15 pm

(Worried man,)<br>(Papa is a worried man.)<br>(Worried man,)<br>(Papa is a worried man.)<br><br>The place I go to draw my pay,<br>Closed the door on me today.<br>Told me just to stay away,<br>And don't come back again.<br><br>Ahh: I told my Mama: "Baby, don't you cry.<br>"I'll get a job before the day go by."<br>I don't know where, and that is why,<br>I'm a worried man.<br><br>(Worried.)<br>Worried man, a worried man. (Worried.)<br>(Worried.)<br>I'm a very worried man.<br>Hungry babies don't understand,<br>And their Papa is a worried man.<br>Papa is a worried man.<br><br>(Play it, Willie,) <br>(Yeah.)<br><br>There is no way that I can see,<br>That I can feed my family, (That's sad.)<br>I don't own a money tree:<br>An' I don't own no land. <br><br>Now listen: I've got muscle and I've got brains.<br>I don't mind the sun an' the rain.<br>I gotta make a little change,<br>As I'm a worried, worried, worried man, ooh.<br><br>(Worried.)<br>Worried man, a worried man. (Worried.)<br>(Worried.)<br>I'm a very worried man. (Worried man.)<br>Hungry babies don't understand,<br>And their Papa is a worried man.<br>Their Papa is a worried man.<br><br>(Take it: take it.)<br>(That's it,<br>(That's it, that's it, that's it.)<br>(Ok, do it: go Willie.)<br><br>(Worried man, worried man.)<br>(Papa is a worried man.)<br>(Worried man, worried man.)<br><br>from <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Countryman</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: White Night

Postby AnnaLivia » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:29 pm

The place I go to draw my pay,<br>Closed the door on me today.<br>Told me just to stay away,<br>And don't come back again.<br><br>Ahh: I told my Mama: "Baby, don't you cry.<br>"I'll get a job before the day go by."<br>I don't know where, and that is why,<br>I'm a worried man.<br><br>(Worried.)<br>Worried man, a worried man. (Worried.)<br>(Worried.)<br>I'm a very worried man.<br>Hungry babies don't understand,<br>And their Papa is a worried man.<br>Papa is a worried man.<br><br><br><br><br>excuse me while i melt into a puddle of tears for awhile.<br>when you been thru what my family has been through, nothing but nothing hits home harder than this...<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: White Night

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:09 pm

Yesterday was a war, yeah <br>Today we throw dung we arms <br>Yesterday lots of sorrows <br>Today we want joy <br>Ye who are still cryin' <br>I beg you dry your weeping eyes <br>'Cause tomorrow we don't want no sorrow <br><br>Yesterday we were hungry <br>Today we belly full throw dung we arms (oh war) <br>Yesterday we were naked <br>Today we have clothing <br>Ye who are still hungry <br>I beg you have a little patien' <br>'Cause tomorrow there will be no sorrow <br><br>Oh, what a joy when we have love in our hearts <br>Oh, what a joy we should have love from the start <br><br>Try not to be ignorant or be a slave to your temper <br>Try not to be ignorant and be moderate in your behaviour , yeah <br><br>Oh, what a joy when we have love in our hearts <br>Oh, what a joy we should have love from the start <br><br>Yesterday was a war, yeah <br>Today we throw dung we arms <br>Yesterday lots of sorrows <br>Today we want joy <br>Ye who are still cryin' <br>I beg you dry your weeping eyes <br>'Cause tomorrow we don't want no sorrow <br><br>Oh, what a joy when we have love in our hearts <br>Oh, what a joy we should have love from the start <p></p><i></i>
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Re: White Night

Postby AnnaLivia » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:44 pm

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Hitler was a vegeterian

Postby veritas » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:21 pm

Saving the earth is good. Yes.<br><br>She is in pain. Yes.<br><br>But those who seek to speak in her name are not always what they seem.<br><br>Question. Look deeper. There is darkness there. Deep, deep roots.<br><br>Read these essays. Read them carefully. I'm sorry they are long. The truth is complex. <br><br>Here is the introduction. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Introduction<br><br>For most compassionate and humane people today, the ecological crisis is a source of major concern. Not only do many ecological activists struggle to eliminate toxic wastes, to preserve tropical rainforests and old-growth redwoods, and to roll back the destruction of the biosphere, but many ordinary people in all walks of life are intensely concerned about the nature of the planet that their children will grow up to inhabit. In Europe as in the United States, most ecological activists think of themselves as socially progressive. That is, they also support demands of oppressed peoples for social justice and believe that the needs of human beings living in poverty, illness, warfare, and famine also require our most serious attention.<br><br>For many such people, it may come as a surprise to learn that the history of ecological politics has not always been inherently and necessarily progressive and benign. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In fact, ecological ideas have a history of being distorted and placed in the service of highly regressive ends--even of fascism itself. As Peter Staudenmaier shows in the first essay in this pamphlet, important tendencies in German "ecologism," which has long roots in nineteenth-century nature mysticism, fed into the rise of Nazism in the twentieth century. During the Third Reich, Staudenmaier goes on to show, Nazi "ecologists" even made organic farming, vegetarianism, nature worship, and related themes into key elements not only in their ideology but in their governmental policies. Moreover, Nazi "ecological" ideology was used to justify the destruction of European Jewry. Yet some of the themes that Nazi ideologists articulated bear an uncomfortably close resemblance to themes familiar to ecologically concerned people today.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>As social ecologists, it is not our intention to deprecate the all-important efforts that environmentalists and ecologists are making to rescue the biosphere from destruction. Quite to the contrary: It is our deepest concern to preserve the integrity of serious ecological movements from ugly reactionary tendencies that seek to exploit the widespread popular concern about ecological problems for regressive agendas. But we find that the "ecological scene" of our time--with its growing mysticism and antihumanism--poses serious problems about the direction in which the ecology movement will go.<br><br>In most Western nations in the late twentieth century, expressions of racism and anti-immigrant sentiments are not only increasingly voiced but increasingly tolerated. Equally disconcertingly, fascist ideologists and political groups are experiencing a resurgence as well. Updating their ideology and speaking the new language of ecology, these movements are once again invoking ecological themes to serve social reaction. In ways that sometimes approximate beliefs of progressive-minded ecologists, these reactionary and outright fascist ecologists emphasize the supremacy of the "Earth" over people; evoke "feelings" and intuition at the expense of reason; and uphold a crude sociobiologistic and even Malthusian biologism. Tenets of "New Age" eco-ideology that seem benign to most people in England and the United States--specifically, its mystical and antirational strains--are being intertwined with ecofascism in Germany today. Janet Biehl’s essay explores this hijacking of ecology for racist, nationalistic, and fascist ends.<br><br>Taken together, these essays examine aspects of German fascism, past and present, in order to draw lessons from them for ecology movements both in Germany and elsewhere. Despite its singularities, the German experience offers a clear warning against the misuse of ecology, in a world that seems ever more willing to tolerate movements and ideologies once regarded as despicable and obsolete. Political ecology thinkers have yet to fully examine the political implications of these ideas in the English-speaking world as well as in Germany.<br><br>What prevents ecological politics from yielding reaction or fascism with an ecological patina is an ecology movement that maintains a broad social emphasis, one that places the ecological crisis in a social context. As social ecologists, we see the roots of the present ecological crisis in an irrational society--not in the biological makeup of human beings, nor in a particular religion, nor in reason, science, or technology. On the contrary, we uphold the importance of reason, science, and technology in creating both a progressive ecological movement and an ecological society. It is a specific set of social relations--above all, the competitive market economy--that is presently destroying the biosphere. Mysticism and biologism, at the very least, deflect public attention away from such social causes. In presenting these essays, we are trying to preserve the all-important progressive and emancipatory implications of ecological politics. More than ever, an ecological commitment requires people today to avoid repeating the errors of the past, lest the ecology movement become absorbed in the mystical and antihumanistic trends that abound today.<br><br>From Ecofascism: Lessons from the German experience.<br>by Peter Staudenmaier and Janet Biehl <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spunk.org/library/places/germany/sp001630/ecofasc.html">www.spunk.org/library/pla...ofasc.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Hitler was a vegeterian

Postby Qutb » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:59 pm

Thanks for that, Veritas. Very interesting articles there.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>An ecology that is mystical, in turn, may become a justification for a nationalism that is mystical. In the New Age milieu of today, with its affinities for ecology, the ultra-right may well find the mystical component it needs to make a truly updated, modernized authoritarian nationalism. As in Germany between the two world wars, antirational cults of the New Age -- primitivistic, esoteric -- abound in both the Federal Republic and the Anglo-American world. Such antirationalism and mysticism are appealed to by the 'New' Right; as anarchist publisher Wolfgang Haug observes, "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The New Right, in effect, wants above all to redefine social norms so that rational doubt is regarded as decadent and eliminated, and new 'natural' norms are established</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->." 7 <br><br>Neofascist 'Ecology'<br>Ecology is warped for mystical-nationalist ends by a whole series of neofascist groups and parties. Indeed, so multifarious are the ecofascist parties that have arisen, and so much do their memberships overlap, that they form what antifascist researcher Volkmar Wölk calls an "ecofascist network." <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Their programmatic literature often combines ecology and nationalism in ways that are designed to appeal to people who do not consider themselves fascists</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, while at the same time they ideologically support neo-Nazi street-fighting skinheads who commit acts of violence against foreigners.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>There's a certain former English soccer player who ideologically fits nicely into the "New Right" attack on <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>rational doubt</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> in the name of ecology and anti-capitalism/anti-globalization, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>designed to appeal to people who do not consider themselves fascists</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Re: definition

Postby thumperton » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:23 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>of 'white' in white separatist please Thump <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->beats me. that would be up to the group to decide. How should we define 'Christian' or 'Muslim'?<br><br>Does their identity hang in the air waiting for our approval?<br><br>I see a very Pavlovian reaction going on here. I see no one claiming that the Amish (despite their exclusivity) will exterminate all others. Or how about any of the major religions? Are you people afraid that by nature of any group/person wanting to become independant that they will want to destroy everything else?<br><br>More ridiculous One Worldism which is exactly the kind of 'logic' that the NWO will be invoking when dealing with 'rogue nations' (read: independant).<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/hsughnoes.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END-->/<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/hsughrun.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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