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Re: Irony recognised.

Postby dugoboy » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:24 pm

ok i've been thinking of a way to respond to this, dreams end. i'm the one who made the statement (that you misrepresented) that prompted you to create this thread. i am trying to explain to you what i meant. so lets start at where it all began and then tell you what i don't and do believe.<br><br>what i said was in response to something omega man said on the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessageRange?topicID=4594.topic&start=1&stop=20" target="top">'MK is of Nazi Project Paperclip derivation'</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> thread.<br><br>after omega man went through an explanation of how nazi scientists worked for the US government after WW2, he then said this in summary:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Nazi Third Reich was basically a fascism field test of sorts funded by the international bankers who have been anxiously preparing for their ultimate New World Order of All the Ages. We all have front row seats and you will literally have to fight to the death for freedom or become fertilizer with a soul. - omega man<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>to which i then replied:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>thats a thought i've had since like the age of 8. when i learned about the nazis, its just something that percilated through i guess, that the nazi's were a test run...<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>i recently learned that hitler was more than likely the bastard son of a rothschild. things that make you go hmm....</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>sure you could ask why i said the second sentence. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the reason why is because it shows you how sick powerful people can be: that they are willing to kill everyone and everything!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> then after that post i did some basic wikipedia research on the rothschilds and i made a post noting how its interesting how economically involved with things they are (the battle of waterloo stock speculation scheme and edmond rothschild's financing the first site for state of israel for the zionist movement). now you should know i've never done research on the rothchilds til now. and i havn't since that night.<br><br>then you, dreams end, made this post in response to what i said about how 'i recently learned that hitler was more than likely the bastard son of a rothschild.'<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Oh my God!!! That would mean that the Holocaust was actually engineered by Jews!!! What's all this MKUltra stuff doing on this thread? - dreams end<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>in your oh my god response you incorrectly assumed i meant 'that the Holocaust was actually engineered by Jews!!!' when i wasn't even ever fucking suggesting that. <br><br>then the next post omega man corrected me:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Adolph Hitler was 1/4 Jewish from the Rothschild bloodline. His grandmother was Maria Anna Schicklgruber a servant who served at Baron Solomon Rothschild's Vienna estate. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> and so i was half right, or perhaps, 1/4th right. but do note i wasn't even pushing the idea further as you see in the next response i made to you.<br><br>i next responded to you dreams end by clarifying:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>just for clarification i wasn't trying to say it was only the rothschilds or htler, i was just noting it for those who didn't know the 1/4 jew aspect. it just rings of irony and how silly their games are. i also know very little of the secret history of the nazis, so its probably much bigger..<br><br>*returning to mk ultra discussion*<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>i should have further clarified the term 'their games' by saying the PTB. i was not saying 'the jews games' or 'the rothschilds games'. i could care less about peoples ethnic background as it doesn't disturb or disgust me in any way. also the irony comment is about the fact that hitler who was secretly partly jewish helped kill 6 million jews. THATS IT!!!<br><br>then you responded:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Quote:<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>i was just noting it for those who didn't know the 1/4 jew aspect<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>And don't think we don't appreciate it. It's important to break down the racial/ethnic background of someone when analyzing world events! <br><br>For example, I think Clinton may be 1/8 Negro, but I'm still working on that.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>yes i do detect the sarcasm, im not stupid. <br><br>then the last post i made i said this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>omg, lol now i'm an anti-semite apparently.<br><br>come on dreams end you know what i meant. do i need to explain it?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>I AM NOT ANTI SEMITE. I AM NOT ANTI JEW. if im anything I AM ANTI ZIONIST!!<br><br>you completely blew this whole thing out of proportions. in the beginning post of this thread you said:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I pointed out that this is the sort of theory bounced around in rightwing conspiracy circles which ultimately is used to "prove" that Hitler and the Nazis were merely tools of the Rothschilds who started the Holocaust in order to justify their "takeover" of Israel and, by extension, the Middle East. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>i don't know about that because i had never heard of it until you have mentioned it!!<br><br>i do know hitler was an occultist and a death cultist, the same as the families of the illuminati. so its not too hard to say the Third Reich was a 'test run'. i believe the PTB are made up of various factions, so you have the rothschilds, neo cons, communists, or what ever else crazy ass group of powerful people you can come up with...they all have designs to try to control things!!!! that is the real point i wish to make.<br><br>thank you. now quit raping a dead horse. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/6/06 11:39 am<br></i>
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Re: Irony recognised.

Postby Dreams End » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:40 pm

Why do these two sentences seem to always go together on this board?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>i could care less about peoples ethnic background as it doesn't disturb or disgust me in any way.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>just for clarification i wasn't trying to say it was only the rothschilds or htler, i was just noting it for those who didn't know the 1/4 jew aspect.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I'll just assume you are naive, dugoboy. But where did you first hear of the Rothschild/Hitler thing? What made you go down that track? What gave you faith in the source of that material? <br><br>Then there's this:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Adolph Hitler was 1/4 Jewish from the Rothschild bloodline. His grandmother was Maria Anna Schicklgruber a servant who served at Baron Solomon Rothschild's Vienna es<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>and so i was half right, or perhaps, 1/4th right. but do note i wasn't even pushing the idea further as you see in the next response i made to you.[/quote]<br><br>I just provided ample evidence that the "facts" as stated by Omeaga man are simply very thinly supported. Even Langer said so himself. And yet you continue on as if that entire post never happened. This is the problem with "beliefs"...anything not fitting it just rolls right off.<br><br><br>All you have to do, dugoboy, is when you go to sites that say stuff like "Hitler was a Rothschild" is to look around at what else is on the site. This is a fine way to determine what the agenda of that site might be. <br><br>Why don't you post the original link that got you into this idea and we'll start from that? I'll be real surprised if on that same site there isn't the whole shebang about Rothschilds engineering the holocaust...the theory that you never heard of till I mentioned it.<br><br>And I'll leave the horseraping to you...k? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Irony recognised.

Postby dugoboy » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:49 pm

Quote:<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>i could care less about peoples ethnic background as it doesn't disturb or disgust me in any way.<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br><br>Quote:<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>just for clarification i wasn't trying to say it was only the rothschilds or htler, i was just noting it for those who didn't know the 1/4 jew aspect.<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>the first sentence is self explanatory. the 1/4 jew thing? apparently because i said jew i am prejudiced or a hate monger? again i noted his 'jewishness' if you will because i thought he was related to the rothschilds who if i do recall were jewish. i have no value judgement of the jewish religion or culture. i have jewish friends, want me to prove it? lol<br><br>i understand what you meant by the source of the material. but the thing is i heard it from a very trusted smart friend. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i></i>
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Maybe Hitler was Jewish, and maybe he was a Zionist

Postby johnny nemo » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:57 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I'm part Jewish and had always heard that Hitler was part Jewish from my Jewish friends and some family members.<br>Here's what my research turned up.<br><br>(I have no idea about the Rothschild's involvement BTW)</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>In 1933 the London Daily Mirror published a picture of a gravestone in a Jewish cemetery in Bucharest inscribed with some Hebrew characters and the name Adolf Hitler. It's now known the Bucharest Hitler could not have been grandfather to our Adolf, but Hitler was sufficiently worried about the whole business that, according to the historian John Toland, he had the Nazi law defining Jewishness written to exclude Jesus Christ and himself.<br><br>Here's what we know: Hitler's paternal grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, gave birth to Alois, Hitler's father, in 1837. She was 42 and unmarried at the time and apparently never revealed the father's identity. Five years later she married Johann Georg Hiedler or Hitler (spelling was a bit casual in those days). But Alois kept the surname Schicklgruber until he was 39 years old.<br><br>In 1876 a new baptismal certificate was issued declaring that Alois's stepfather J.G. Hiedler was in fact his real father. By this time both Maria and J.G. were dead. Why the name change so late in the day nobody really knows, but there is speculation that Alois did it so he could come into an inheritance. At any rate, few researchers today believe J.G. was really Alois's father.<br><br>Now for the weird stuff. After the war Hitler's former lawyer, Hans Frank, claimed that Adolf told him in 1930 that one of his relatives was trying to blackmail him by threatening to reveal his alleged Jewish ancestry. Hitler asked Frank to find out the facts. Frank says he determined that at the time Maria Schicklgruber gave birth to Alois, she was working as a household cook in the town of Graz. Her employers were a Jewish family named Frankenberger, who had a 19-year-old son. The son, according to Frank, was Alois's father and Hitler's grandfather--which would make the man who inspired the Holocaust one-quarter Jewish.<br><br>Frank's allegations have vexed historians ever since. The distinguished Hitler scholar Werner Maser was so irritated he claimed Frank made the whole thing up. Others think Frank was telling the truth but that the research he did for Hitler was faulty. It turns out that all Jews had been expelled from Graz in the 15th century and were not allowed to return until the 1860s; what's more, so far as can be determined, Maria Schicklgruber never lived in Graz. Frank's source for the Frankenberger yarn was a distant relation of Hitler's, who supposedly had letters exchanged by the Frankenbergers and Maria Schicklgruber. (It's claimed they gave her child support.) But neither the relative nor the letters have ever surfaced, and chances are it's all a crock.<br><br>So who really was Hitler's grandfather? Werner Maser thinks it was the brother of his legal grandfather, one Johann Nepomuk Hiedler. But that's not all. J. Nepomuk was also the grandfather of Klara Poelzl, Hitler's mom. In other words, J.N. was both Adolph's paternal grandfather and his maternal great-grandfather. I'm not about to tell you any of this was the proximate cause of Hitler's persecution of the Jews, his suicide, or anything else. Still, if you believe Maser, not only was Hitler twisted, so was his family tree. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Now that the issue is as clear as mud, let's move on to Hitler and the Zionists</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br>In the book "51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis", the author Lenni Brenner showed how the Zionists had a long history of shameless cooperation with the Nazis, especially after the dictator Adolph Hitler had came to power in 1933. The Zionists were also in bed, to some extent, with the other members of what later became known as WWII's "Axis of Evil," that included Benito Mussolini's Italy, and Tojo Hideki's Japan. For example, in March 29,1936, Zionists praised Il Duce, and his regime, at the opening of a maritime school, funded by the Fascist government, at Civitavecchia. This is where a Zionist youth group, the "Betar," trained its sailors for the future Revisionist state. The speakers ignored the fact that on Oct. 3, 1935, Italian troops had invaded Abyssinia. <br><br>On another front, the "Third Congress of the Jewish Community of the Far East," was held in Jan., 1940, in Harbin, Manchuria, then reeling under a brutal military occupation by the Japanese imperial forces. At that time, too, Tokyo was already aligned with Hitler and Italy's Mussolini, in the notorious Anti-Comintern Pact. Also, keep in mind, that the Japanese's murderous "Rape of Nanking," had occurred in Dec., 1937, and the "Crystal Night" incident on Nov. 9, 1938. Nevertheless, the Zionist confab went out of its way to legitimize the Japanese occupation by certifying it as a guarantor of the "equality of all citizens," in that beleaguered land.<br><br>The Zionists also had a trade plan with the Berlin government by which German Jews could redeem their property in Nazi goods exported to then British-occupied Palestine. And to top it all off, the infamous SS-Hptscharf. Adolf Eichmann, had visited Palestine, in October, 1937, as the guest of the Zionists. He also met, in Egypt, with Feivel Polkes, a Zionist operative, whom Eichmann described as a "leading Haganah functionary." The chain-smoking Polkes was also on the Nazis' payroll "as an informer." <br><br>Brenner isn't the first writer to address the mostly taboo subject of how the Zionist leadership cooperated with the Nazis. Rolf Hilberg's seminal "The Destruction of European Jews"; Hannah Arendt's "Eichmann in Jerusalem"; Ben Hecht's "Perfidy"; Edwin Black's "The Transfer Agreement"; Francis R. Nicosia's "The Third Reich and the Palestine Question"; Rudolf Vrba and Alan Bestic's "I Cannot Forgive"; and Rafael Medoff's "The Deadening Silence: American Jews and the Holocaust," also dared, with varying public success.<br><br>After the Holocaust began in 1942, Eichmann dealt regularly with Dr. Rudolf Kastner, a Hungarian Jew, whom he considered a "fanatical Zionist." Kastner was later assassinated in Israel as a Nazi collaborator. At issue then, however, was the bargaining over the eventual fate of Hungary's Jews, who were slated for liquidation in the Nazi-run death camps. Eichmann said this about Kastner, the Zionist representative, "I believe that [he] would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal. He was not interested in old Jews or those who had become assimilated into Hungarian society. `You can have the others,' he would say, `but let me have this group here.' And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful. I would let his groups escape." <br><br>Readers, too, will be surprised to learn, that after the Nuremberg Anti-Jewish Race Laws were enacted in Sept., 1935, that there were only two flags that were permitted to be displayed in all of Nazi Germany. One was Hitler's favorite, the Swastika. The other was the blue and white banner of Zionism. The Zionists were also allowed to publish their own newspaper. The reasons for this Reich-sponsored favoritism was, according to the author: The Zionists and the Nazis had a common interest, making German Jews emigrate to Palestine.<br><br>As early as June 21, 1933, the German Zionist Federation was sending a secret memorandum to the Nazis, which said, in part:<br><br>"It is our opinion that an answer to the Jewish question truly satisfying to the national state [German Reich] can be brought about only with the collaboration of the Jewish movement that aims as a social, cultural and moral renewal of Jewry- -indeed, that such a national renewal must first create the decisive social and spiritual premises for all solutions..."<br><br>Incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious "Stern Gang," late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on "Germany's side," in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the "Jewish Question" in Europe, and their assistance in creating an "historic Jewish state." By this date, German troops had already marched into Prague, invaded Poland, and had built the first concentration camp at Auschwitz. The deranged Stern had further bragged about how the Zionist organizations were "closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in [their] ideology and structure." Stern's obscene proposal was found in the German embassy, in Turkey, after WWII. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Maybe Hitler was Jewish, and maybe he was a Zionist

Postby Dreams End » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:36 pm

Nemo, <br><br>it is impolite to quote other writers' material without attribution. I'm sure William Hughes and Cecil Admas (writer for "The Straight Dope") would agree with me.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html">www.straightdope.com/clas..._325b.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> (straight dope)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/5200/index.php">baltimore.indymedia.org/n.../index.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> (Hughes article.) <br><br>I think there's other stuff too, but I don't have time to Google all of it. It would be convenient, JN, if you would just provide the links to where you pasted all this from. <br><br><br>I would actually like to read the Brenner book and I think there's full text on the internet but I don't have time to look right now. <br><br>Oh, I always assumed...I have no idea if Hitler had a Jewish grandfather. For this thread, let's just stipulate that he did...<br><br>This thread is more about the Rothschild connection that wasn't.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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As an aside...

Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:44 pm

but there is a Rothschild connection.....I am reading A Century of War by F W Engdahl:<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Century_of_War03.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>(See <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/" target="top">www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>which is about as the subtitle in the red box describes, and I read (on page 31) a brief reference to 'the infamous Dreyfus affair'. Engdahl explained, in a way, that the affair was used to set the French (nation/public opinion) against the Germans, possibly at the beheast of the English, as part of their <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Game" target="top">'Great Game'</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. Engdahl explains that the English/(British) were threatened by the rising power of Germany and by their associated threat to the British Pound Sterling hegemony (which was present at the time).<br>(<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>See any parallels with the present day?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->) <br><br>One of the main threats was the planned construction of the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Railway" target="top">Berlin to Baghdad Railway</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> (and, ultimately, to Basra). This would have 'endangered' the British Naval Superiority at the time as the rail link <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>would have facilitated the transportation of military supplies from Germany to a port on the Persian Gulf, from which the military supplies could be taken by ships to the farthest of the German colonies. The run home to Germany would supply oil to German industry. This unfettered access to resources would have been beneficial to German economic interests</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> This is a fascinating geopolitical subject of its day in itself, but i digress.<br> <br>Upon looking up the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Dreyfus Affair</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> on <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair" target="top">Wikipedia</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, I read that this 'scandal' engrossed the French public & the rest of the world for a period of around 12 years (1894 to 1904). The issue spawned what has been called the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.law.uga.edu/academics/profiles/dwilkes_more/his9_jaccuse.html" target="top">Greatest Newspaper Article of all Time</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> which was by Emile Zola, the great French novelist, and which appeared in a Paris literary newspaper, L'Aurore (The Dawn) on Thursday, Jan. 13, 1898.<br><br>The article written in the form of an open letter to the President of France, the 4,000 word piece, entitled <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>J'Accuse!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (I Accuse!), rightly has been judged a "masterpiece" of polemics and a literary achievement "of imperishable beauty." No other newspaper article has ever provoked such public debate and controversy or had such an impact on law, justice, and society. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The appearance of Zola's article was the greatest day of the Dreyfus Affair, which tormented France for twelve years. The Affair, "one of the great commotions of history," in the words of historian Barbara W. Tuchman, arose out of the 1894 arrest and conviction for treason of Capt. Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish artillery officer in the French army. Dreyfus, who was completely innocent, received an unfair trial at his court martial; the prosecution's case had no substance, and the conviction was based on false, supposedly incriminating documents, not introduced into evidence or disclosed to Dreyfus, which were secretly delivered to the trial judges after they had retired to consider their verdict. Dreyfus was sentenced to life imprisonment and expelled from the army. He was incarcerated off the coast of South America on Devil's Island from 1895 until 1899.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>The Dreyfus Affair had enormous resonance throughout Europe & served (Engdahl suggests) to weaken any Franco-German alliance which, would be advantageous to British interests.<br><br>Anyway it happens that the Rothschild Banking Family was <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>behind/connected to/financed</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Commandant Ferdinand Esterhazy, the army infantry officer who, as they knew by 1896, had actually committed the crime for which Dreyfus had been wrongfully convicted.<br><br>The rest, as they say is history......<br><br>Interestingly though, the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair" target="top">Wikipedia article on the Dreyfus Affair</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, in the section <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>'The effects of the Dreyfus Affair'</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is blank/incompleted!<br><br>Read the article at <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.law.uga.edu/academics/profiles/dwilkes_more/his9_jaccuse.html" target="top">www.law.uga.edu/academics/profiles/dwilkes_more/his9_jaccuse.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->; fascinating stuff - How we much we could do with a Zola of our time.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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My apologies, DE

Postby johnny nemo » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:39 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>it is impolite to quote other writers' material without attribution. I'm sure William Hughes and Cecil Admas (writer for "The Straight Dope"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> would agree with me.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I realized after I posted that I had forgotten to include the links, but it was too late.<br><br>How does one edit their post after it's posted?<br>I haven't been able to and I read the info for "Using ezPost" and found no mention of it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: My apologies, DE

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:42 pm

thanks for this thread. there is a lot of interesting information and great links. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: As an aside...

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:03 pm

Great stuff in this thread despite the interpersonal tone 'curfuffle.'<br><br>Hey, DreamsEnd. <br><br>Have you considered that when people find the 'maybe Hitler was Jewish' narrative and point at it that it isn't in the spirit of supporting the anti-semitic view of the New World Order but instead to imply that tribalism is just rediculous and we are all of the human family?<br><br>And you ask 'why do people keep going to the Rothschilds?'<br><br>This also isn't just a veiled signpost to 'Jewish bankers' but a valid historical background on how elite financiers came to affect international relations and war.<br><br>If only the Rothschilds weren't Jewish...but they were. And their history is too important to ignore lest it feed some anti-semitic theme.<br><br>Just like the ADL covering for the Bushes who profited from Auschwitz. <p></p><i></i>
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Editing posts

Postby nomo » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:11 pm

Assuming you're logged in, the left hand column displaying your info will have a tiny, tiny "edit" link. <p></p><i></i>
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First line of defence.

Postby slimmouse » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:43 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If only the Rothschilds weren't Jewish...but they were. And their history is too important to ignore lest it feed some anti-semitic theme.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> And therein lies the first line of defence of the New Fourth Reich, with all of its misguided defendants.<br><br> "Racist." <br><br> "The Jews are lizards." being a typical quote to detract people from looking at those who have forgotten more than most people know. Long detailed posts as to why these people cant be trusted. Right ! <br><br> 'Dont go there' is the message. 'The mans' insane !'<br><br> It worked with me for 3 years.<br><br> The usual typical ill informed view, from the usual suspects. Meanwhile, isnt it funny how a persons beliefs can quickly be transformed to the hideous by introducing the "religion" card ?<br> <br> "Fascists" being the resulting cry. <br><br> "Beware the fascists masquerading as researchers" is the cry.<br><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>And meanwhile throughout the middle East, those very people who financed, supported, imported and continued the contorted visions of Hitler, go about their murder and madness.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> And where are those people who are warning us against "Jews are lizards" researchers, when it comes to the everyday realities of REAL fascism ?<br><br> Busy pasting 10 page articles about the dangers of Fascism from Icke, Larouche and co !. Too fucking funny.<br><br> As Princess Diana rightly stated. "They ( The PTB) aren' t human you know"<br><br> Thanks for your contributions DE. Perhaps you are a sheep in wolfs clothing after all.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 6/6/06 3:54 pm<br></i>
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Re: the making of legends

Postby havanagilla » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:52 pm

ADL's page about Pres Bush is one of those historical documents, which in 50 years will engage the next generation of conspiracy researchers (the thread - "did the ADL bring about GW Bush and the persecution of Jews" and some future DE is going to try and prove this was blown out of proportion).<br><br> --<br>Perhaps this proves nothing about hitler/rothchild blood connection, but perhaps some similar wishy washy statement by another jewish banker about hitler or other nazis ("they are not SO bad"), paved the way to these rumors. If Bush went a step further in his religious hallucinations towards some form of discriminatino against Jews, wouldn't you say that ADL acted as his aid ? <br>--<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Woa. Easy there, Slimmouse.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:48 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Thanks for your contributions DE. Perhaps you are a sheep in wolfs clothing after all.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I've read DE's posts for long enough to have seen why some topics really piss him off when the umpteenth person introduces it at this site. It is personal and related to helping people he loves.<br><br>Plowing through all the disinfo schemes is tiring work and sometimes people vent a little.<br><br>So it is strong emotional triggering in DE that sometimes skews his tone into a harsher-than-ideal discussion tone.<br><br>This not being evil, it is taking fighting it with understanding seriously on his part but letting it get just a little bit of the better of him as we all do everyonce in a while.<br><br>This is very human and not suspicious or malicious so please keep that in mind when anyone online lets a little 'tone' get into a post. <p></p><i></i>
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well it coulda been worse hugh.....

Postby slimmouse » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:01 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This not being evil, it is taking fighting it with understanding seriously on his part but letting it get just a little bit of the better of him as we all do everyonce in a while.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Which is why I called him a sheep in wolfs clothing, as opposed to other way round <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: well it coulda been worse hugh.....

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:06 pm

DOH. Sorry for the sermon. I had a momentary dyslexia with your inversion of the norm.<br><br>Well, nothing wrong with 'too much' understanding, I guess. <p></p><i></i>
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