Young singers spread racist hate

by **thumperton** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:26 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>now we are at the crux of the problem,we have white powerstructures,centuries old, these powerstructures only work to the advantage of a few, mostly white males. you feel oppressed.. the non-white population has been oppressed by these same powerstructures for centuries. common sense would have you and other oppressed people join forces to overthrow this common enemy that oppresses you. you may not have noticed but those with the real power are quite happy for you to blame the "other man" for all your problems,it might even explain your opinion that "they"<hr></blockquote>I hear what you're saying, but I was talking about something completely different. As for the 'blaming the other man', it's obvious that the race relations industry is also something they use. White separatism gets away from that completely. I still don't see why this concept is confusing to you or even controversial. And yes illegal immigration is being subsidized by the 'white' fortune 500 companies and the Ford Foundation. AJ has mentioned it many times. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thumperton@rigorousintuition>thumperton</A> at: 10/23/05 9:42 pm

by a » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:54 am

proldic, don't know what you mean - I guess you're calling S. a hypocrite cause of a belief in (A) SOME Jews named as oppressors or (B) ALL Jews are oppressors. I think Sweejak is naming some gangsters. If so, what's your problem? You don't have that reaction about Henry Kissinger, right? Or if someone writes about Hitler you don't assume they mean ALL Germans are involved in a world-wide conspiracy, do you? Condoleeza, DeLay,Papa Doc,Hussein, Pol Pot, Pinochet, ... You seem to have this reaction when someone talks Mossad or Palestine. I mean, " the Israelis were forced to leave the Gaza Strip" ???!!?!?! I think it was you, might have been Qutb, who disparaged the site "If Americans Knew" If you have some info on them would you share please, cause I have read some of their stuff and it seems to me to name names just like we name names about the U S. If you feel otherwise, pls share info. ( if that was you) Thanks

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:44 am

You seem to be bringing this story in a cryptic way again and again, any point ? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>long-established network of organised crime had finally come to light, with its various connections to the world of politics. Michel Nihoul, a politician-cum-businessman and Dutroux’s accomplice, had opened a tiny window onto a secret world. This led the way to further revelations. You could say that, as Belgium’s very fabric seemed to disintegrate, a thread of white began to weave itself into the black thread of the past.<hr></blockquote> Do you know anything about the connections of said Belgium- organised crime to Israeli government (organised crime) ? WHile there are Nazis abound (and even little Nazi singirls) seems like many are happy to join hands with them and then cry foul ?

by **Sweejak** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:19 am

Since the link that Proldic pulled the mis-attributed quote from didn't work here is the link he was refering to. Again, Proldic's quotes are not my words. <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C2128262602/E1011313201/index.html">homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/i...index.html</a> At the bottom of the pasted article you'll find my comments which refer to the part of Kaminski's article that I wanted to comment on. I think anyone can see what Proldic's agenda is when he slams me for being "for" home schooling. I said what I said about home schooling and provided my experience, such as it is, with it. It was both positive and negative. It's somehow enough to break forum rules yet again and call me a "fucking hypocrite" and bring up things that have no relation to the thread. Why? Actually Proldic, I demand an apology.

by **jenz** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:47 am

I'm a bit baffled too. could,t decide if you were making the point that paedophilia/ra/orgcrime and nazi groups are in the same bag (yes, frequently, if not all the time), or something else. I sometimes get spammed by neo nazis, opened one once, thinking as it was in german, that it was the answer to a piece of info I'd been looking for. full of thinly veiled paedo come on stuff mingled with crap about immigrant s defiling our girls. the dutroux case is a quagmire of cover up.only connection bringing up Isreal I heard about was what I posted before IR; that implied that mossad had used knowledge of who the belgian criminals were as blackmail to get a political gain, but I heard nothing of a direct involvement. anyone else know? as for the twins - nuff said.

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:05 pm

jenz, I think there was talk of isaeli involvement in the dutrox ring back in the early eighties. Also, how would they know which buttons to push for the blackmail ? true, someone mentioned here it could be "tipped" by the Americans (as we all know the Sharon Case was a midst the grand US campaign against universal jurisdiction of sorts), but I don't think this is the case. Veritas seemed to have been "protective" of me in the debate with Eric the Terrible, and I'd only say that as obnoxious as Eric's views are on Jews, he is not the issue, but the ISraeli government shady involvements in various crimes, IS my main concern. And so, while I don't like being left alone to fend off obvious antisemites (my favorite crowd :-)) they are really not the people who place me at risk or who had any bearing on my life. In fact, in a way, people like Eric are the best assistants to the Mossad's thugs, they deflect the issue and also "gag" me (cause now I go thinking gosh I should be loyal to my people and cover up abuses, cause there are real antisemites out there...but the truth is that if Mossad cared about Eric's opinions he would not be here and speak, would he. SO, obviously he is not of interest to anyone, seriously speaking. However they do take the time and effort to harrass, kill and abuse ISraelis who dissent, and Palestinians of sorts, and anyone who stands in the way of their own criminal agenda. The last Nazi they tackled was Eichman in 1960 ! and even around this, there are rumors that it was not a straightforward case of nazi hunting more of a coverup to something else). So with all due, i'd rather move on from this issue to dutrox and Israel for instance. So, at last I was wondering if Veritas has anything to say on the issues at hand.

by **jenz** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:18 pm

both waiting for veritas! I hardly dare mention some of the things which seem to be a trigger for so much misunderstanding now, but yes, I agree, there is no absolute reason why persons in any one country on earth should not be as likely as anyone else to have far right agendas or affiliations. and the far right is imho synonymous with criminality, even if some of its followers are unaware.

by **veritas** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:19 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I think there was talk of isaeli involvement in the dutrox ring back in the early eighties<hr></blockquote> <img src="http://www.hep.uiuc.edu/home/g-gollin/redherring.gif" style="border:0;"/> Maybe Kathleen knows. Is her mind contaminated? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Now for the Aryan network. I’m fairly convinced that it has strong connections with several U.S. intelligence agencies for the following reasons: 1) many Aryan cell (local) groups were formed by Nazi immigrants who were secretly smuggled into the US by the OSS/CIA, U.S. Army, and so on; 2) personal and business relationships developed between some of the immigrants and a number of US government employees and contractors, some of whom continue to wield considerable political power; 3) our government’s credibility would be severely damaged if the world were to be presented with sufficient proof that government employees not only allowed but assisted Nazi war criminals in torturing, raping, terrorizing, and even medically murdering American and Canadian children as part of secretive CIA experiments; 4) I know for a fact that some of our most influential movers and shakers are covert Aryans; 5) every one of the Aryan cell groups that I spent time with in the past had actively participated in underground/black-marketing activities, including Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children (CSEC), child trafficking, adult slave trafficking, drug and illegal weapons trafficking, and more; 7) every one of the Aryan cell groups that I spent time with also was actively involved in breeding babies to be used for human experimentation and slavery, and was also actively involved in using MKULTRA and other CIA mind control techniques to shatter the psyches of the child victims. (I believe this was done to prepare such children to be used by our government, in the future, to perform secretive, illegal activities that could not be traced back to the CIA, NSA, etc.)<hr></blockquote> http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/02/interview-with-kathleen-sullivan-part.html They corrupt to control.

by **anotherdrew** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:16 pm

"a reflection on the whole white race." There is NO "white" race

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:24 pm

I think there is more to it than simply Israeli right wingers and their obvious criminal tendencies (I agree with you that this combination is often found, but I can come up with some decent right wingers here as well, but they are not very right wing kinda old fashion conservatives with that old decorum... I tend to believe that some of our right wing types are programmed themselves by CIA or such and then they spread the virus so to speak. But then, I take one thing from prodlic's posts (about a different matter) that sometimes we look for "outsiders" as cause for terrible things, because its too painful, hard, to accept the fact that OUR OWN people can do it all by themselves...

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:42 pm

Thank you veritas, I read the interview, fascinating although I didn't find anything about Dutrox. (I didn't read very slow so I might have skipped it), and I don't know what the Franklin cover up is...but the rest seems credible. She mentions a lot of NAzi roots that mainly sprang via NASA and this resonates with me. What I can't figure out is how come ISrael became so deeply enmeshed in this activity. One explanation is that those real nazis, once they were safely working under US hats, turned their focus to the "good old victims", namely, to the JEws OR, Israel has a lot of corrupt peolpe who just don't mind working for Nazis (the lowest scum on earth, in my view) against their own folks, or something is really fucked up here. One would expect that people here would be extra careful, right ? or am I missing on something. Regardless of historical reasons, I cannot deny that under my personal and subjective and none scientific opinion there are a LOT of business and friendly cooprative relations bn Israeli government (but not only) and those types of people mentioned in Cathleen interview (ie nazis of sorts). And as I said, there was also talk about Belgium in the eighties. Now, I know you all don't like Jews and/or ISraelis veyr much, but this is MY people and I live in ISrael and I find it hard to accept that there is something ineherently corrupt in this community, or that this is a group of conspirators etc. etc.. After all it was the NAzis who wiped the Jews out and not the other way around. So, what I am thinking is that Israelis are just not aware, and that the ZIonist ideology (which I don't like anyway) blinded Israelis to large segments of reality. (I can't speak for the Jews in the USA, cause I don't know enough about them). Anyway, it does seem, in the larger picture that Israel is heading towards implosion, self perpetrated in away, or at least actively assisting its own destuction by not so nice people. I can only speak about the Israeli thugs I did see and "taste", that they are fascist, sadist little maniacs (the ones who do those things). And, I don't see anyone in a position to do anything about them here. (neither can I..mind you all those who propose I run for some office..:-)).

by **veritas** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:00 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I read the interview, fascinating although I didn't find anything about Dutrox. (I didn't read very slow so I might have skipped it), and I don't know what the Franklin cover up is...but the rest seems credible.<hr></blockquote> Franklin and Finders : U.S. Dutroux and Nihoul : Belgium <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I know you all don't like Jews and/or ISraelis veyr much<hr></blockquote> Ignore the peddlers of hate. They count only Jews. No Nazis in their census. Don't look where they point. Look at what they point away from. Deceivers.

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:18 pm

Veritas, I will look up the Franklin affair and this finders stuff. As for the rest, your messages are triggering memories of M/C...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"> Maybe the Nazis are hidden, but who can take the responsibility off those in ISrael who work with them ? they are not children, they are high officials, professors and what not. The issue of the potential origins of said practices is interesting, for various reasons, but the hard cold reality demands a concrete look at the specifics and the people who actually do it. Jews or not, out numbered and outwitted by NAzis or not, they are criminals, and there is quite a sizable community here, with a hold in government and politics. In terms of public opinion, perhaps, and also raising awareness, it is useful pointing to hidden connections to Nazis per se, but that's it. In practical terms, as is within Israel, this is really not important. I have to shift from looking at it from the "inside" and from the "outside", but that's bogus, cause in fact I live in Israel, the perps are local, and even if the influence is from the USA/or Eagle's nest in Austreich, this does not exculpate even one criminal, not legally or morally. I am disturbed that while a Cathleen like this is treated with dignity, same victim if it were Israeli (I gave a name, in earlier posts, re a famous affair in the USA recently), they are branded "Mossad Agent". This is double standards by the so called "good people" who should know better.

by **veritas** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:36 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>As for the rest, your messages are triggering memories of M/C...<hr></blockquote> !!! You are a victim? Maybe best to let this rest for now. Triggering was not my intent. I'm sorry for your suffering.

by **jenz** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:44 am

IR so we are absolutely clear - race does not in fact exist; that is it is impossible to define because we are all related. people who posit fancy blood line theories are either very muddled thinkers or looking for someone to scapegoat or persecute (same thing actually)

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