The Profumo Affair, Sex, Executive bypassing of Parliament.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:32 pm

Two stories here. I found a detailed history of English parliaments on the website of the Australian Parliament when I searched for more info on 'Scandal-tainted former UK minister Profumo dies.' <a href="http://www.sabcnews.com/world/europe/0,2172,123558,00.html">www.sabcnews.com/world/eu...58,00.html</a> "March 10, 2006, 10:45 John Profumo, the cabinet minister at the centre of one of Britain's biggest political scandals, has died aged 91, British media reported. He was forced to resign in 1963 as minister of war over his extramarital affair with a 19-year-old model who had also slept with a Soviet diplomat. Breaking at the height of the Cold War, the scandal led to accusations that British security had been at risk. It damaged the Conservative government of the time and contributed to its election defeat in 1964. Profumo quit after confessing he had lied to parliament about his relationship with the model, Christine Keeler, and devoted the rest of his life to charity work in London's run-down East End. High society romps Keeler, who has described in her autobiography how she used to attend high society dinner parties ending in sex romps, said she slept with both Profumo and Soviet assistant naval attaché Eugene Ivanov in 1961." <a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/pubs/hamer/chap04.htm">www.aph.gov.au/Senate/pub...chap04.htm</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The executive government by-passing the parliament Defence and Foreign Affairs are two important areas in which parliament has tamely acquiesced in the Cabinet continuing to exercise powers which traditionally were held by the sovereign and Privy Council, but which the development of responsible government should have rendered obsolete. Defence There can be little doubt that the decision to declare war, or to order military forces to start fighting, is the most serious a nation can take. Yet the decision is made by the Executive. Except in Canada, there is no statutory need for the approval of the legislature. Sometimes, but by no means always, the legislature is asked to approve the decision, but this is often after substantial military risks have been taken, and funds committed far in excess of those voted by parliament. The Gulf War is a good example. Iraq occupied Kuwait on 2 August 1990 and the UN Security Council promptly imposed sanctions on Iraq, and later authorised the use of force to implement the sanctions. Britain sent ground, air and naval forces in support of both objectives, and Mrs Thatcher refused to rule out the use of defensive force even if not authorised by the Security Council. The House of Commons was in summer recess, and it was more than a month before the House met to consider the matter. This meeting was not initiated by the government, but was held at the request of the leader of the opposition.<hr></blockquote>

by **semper occultus** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:38 pm

An interesting detail on that affair was a character called Steven Ward - who was a "society osteopath" & usually described as Keeler's pimp & procurer of women for the elite. He lived in a cottage on the Cliveden esate of the mega-rich/connected Astors. Anyway years later an autobiog. by a British show-biz character called Michael Bentine - who claimed psychic abilitiy & a lifetime of paranormal experiences - described an incident in which Ward revealed himself a leader of a group of practitioners of the occult - I think Bentine explicitly described them as satanic - & tried to inveigle Bentine to participate & "show them what he could do." I read this well before becoming acquainted with conspiracy research - which Bentine was nothing to do with. The so-called lurid Fritz Springmeier stuff becomes just a little bit more intriguing when it cross-checks out in this way. What exactly would a family like the Astors want with a resident in-house satanic-coven leader !? Not to mention the intelligence angle with Keeler / Ivanov the Russian attache.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:42 pm

All the games which work have already been played. Wasn't Linda Tripp, the handler of Monica Lewinsky, tied to both Republicans and military intelligence? Her little open-mouthed songbird both demonized Clinton with sex and enabled a neocon Republican backlash that is now being called the 'unitary executive' which wages war as it wishes with no interferance from Congress.

by **antiaristo** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:58 pm

Humanity, <blockquote>Quote:<hr>the Cabinet continuing to exercise powers which traditionally were held by the sovereign and Privy Council, but which the development of responsible government should have rendered obsolete. Defence There can be little doubt that the decision to declare war, or to order military forces to start fighting, is the most serious a nation can take. Yet the decision is made by the Executive. Except in Canada, there is no statutory need for the approval of the legislature<hr></blockquote> That is the Treason Felony Act of 1848 in operation. This is the first confirmation that this law IS being used outside the territory of the United Kingdom. The Australian Senate is complaining, but there is nothing they can do except wait for a time when there is no queen. semper, Steven Ward committed suicide, didn't he? From what I know now I suspect it is more likely he was "suicided". Certainly that would help explain Profumo's ability to keep his mouth shut. Michael Bentine was a lot more than a show-biz character. He was one of the Goons. Who shaped British comedyafter the War. His fellow Goons were Peter Sellers, Spike Milligan and harry Secombe. Bentine had high credibility, and high intelligence.

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