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Postby rapt » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:43 pm

Pam, Qutb...Obvious to me that Kerry was part of the gang, had no intention of winning the presidency, did not want it. He was slipped in as Dem candidate by number distortion at a key moment after it became apparent that Dean had a strong following and would not follow the script. Look what happened to JFK when he opted to be independent.<br><br>If you entertain the fantasy that Dems are in opposition to bushco, ck on the adjacent thread which confirms that Billy Clinton is in the Bush's pocket. How about lets get real here and face the fact that ALL politics is lies, that PTB objective is to suck up all the assets, reduce population, and perhaps if they can pull it off, leave the Earth to die. The evidence is growing, so you don't even have to be a conspiracist to believe it.<br><br>I do admit that, as has been said by others here several times, it is scary. Was Daniel Boone scared? No, he strangled angry bears with his bare hands. Were Lewis & Clark scared? No, they drove on thru blizzards and steep unexplored land to reach their goal. Are we scared? Only if we watch TV. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Peachy..

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:43 pm

This mission, should you choose to accept it, will make you responsible for the involvement of religion in government, the level of secrecy in the federal government, defending the homeland against natural and unatural acts, medicare legislation, the choice of Supreme Court justices, etc., etc. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/10/05 4:45 pm<br></i>
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Re: Peachy

Postby rapt » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:05 pm

Chig, you should not suggest that there was a choice between candidates in 2004, "magic wand" or not. I'm tellin ya, Kerry was/is part of the scam. There is no other way to read it. (I do have further evidence for this if you are not convinced)<br><br>I do agree that Kerry might have selected less reptilian SC candidates, but he had no chance whatsoever of gaining that privelege. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Ted the dog » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:14 pm

"I remember his speech at the RNC in New York: "Let's terminate the terrorists", spoken with thick German accent. The crowd went extatic. Truly scary. He's not a doofus like Bush, who is so easily seen as a comic figure, having ruined his brain during many years as an alcoholic. He could become a very dangerous charismatic-fascist führer, if the people would give him a mandate. And he is on the record saying he admires Hitler.”<br><br><br><br><br>yeah! everyone at the RNC went apeshit for arnie. that’s exactly what I’m talking about....they LOVE that shit...to them it’s like, “wow! it’s like a movie, but it’s REAL!!” because as we all know, in movies, the hero is always obvious and SUPER heroic and the villain is always despicable and that makes it much much easier for them to swallow and actually believe that what these fucking Bush Cult leaders are feeding them is the truth. <br><br> “How could Arnie be bad? he was the terminator in T2!!! he was the GOOD GUY!!!” <br><br>“yeah, but he was the bad guy in Terminator part 1...he wanted to kill....*”<br><br>“Shhhh!! Ahnold is going to say something again...be quiet!”<br><br>people even get off on his accent...they love to imitate him saying all those stupid lines from his movies, while laughing. "Did you HEAR THAT?!! he just said, 'let's terminate the terrorists'!! that's AWESOME!!" completely oblivious to how ridiculous that sounds...not to mention how hollow and meaningless and engineered it is.<br><br><br>If he hadn't fucked up so bad in CA, I could easily see the Bush Cult members "splintering off" and forming an Arnie Cult. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: John F. Kerry

Postby Qutb » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:08 pm

Well, if Kerry was bought and paid for, what was the point of the whole Swift Boat circus? It's actually not a rhetorical question. I dunno. Maybe it was just that - circus, and nothing more. Distraction for the unwashed masses, while the people that matter could sit back knowing that whoever won, it would be <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>their guy</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. Or that Bush would win, and Kerry would lose on purpose, having played his role and done his duty to the Fraternity.<br><br>I think it's a little more complicated though. I'm still puzzled by the case of John Kerry. It truly was a half-hearted performance. Like it didn't matter much to him whether he won or not. I think there are substantial differences between even many mainstream Democats and the Republicans, but only in areas that are not of vital importance to the power/money elite. In other words, they don't threaten the class interests of the upper class. Issues like gay marriage and flag burning are clearly intended only to distract, but there are more important issues where there are some differences. The elite clearly saw no threat in John Kerry, in fact he is one of them. But I still think he and his like-minded disagree with the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>methods</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> of the neo-cons/GOP, in both foreign and domestic policy.<br><br>Kerry and Wesley Clark and George Soros want Wall Street/London dominance through multilateralism and creeping supra-nationality, even though it means conceding some US power. They want stability, international cooperation and rule-based international institutions, and then take out the nay-sayers (like Serbia) in "humanitarian interventions" to "protect human rights". They also prefer a certain minimal safety-net to promote domestic stability and calm social tensions, and to legitimize their rule (like Bismarck).<br><br>The neo-cons have a more radical approach. They believe in American military power as a means to change the geopolitical status quo unilaterally and more pro-actively than the Kerry-Clark-Soros (KCS) faction. While KCS want to strengthen the UN, the neo-cons want to destroy it. They prefer Washington to rule directly with an iron fist and to fight and win major theater wars in order to assert its predominance. The neo-cons are anti-stability - they want to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>change</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> things (for the worse, of course) and conquer and expand their power, an obvious parallel to the Nazis. Domestically, as well: they want to drown the non-military/law enforcement government in the bathtub, shred the safety nets, employ a strategy of tension, undermine human rights and civil liberties, use the Army to repress the people, etc.<br><br>So while both factions serve the elite, and often agree on things, I would prefer the former over the latter any day of the week. If for no other reason, because KCS are less likely to instigate a thermonuclear holocaust.<br><br>There's no definite demarcation between the two factions, though. Weren't Clark and General Boykin both involved at Waco? And while these are the main ideological, or rather methodological, lines, there are of course private relationships that transgress them, such as between Clinton and the Bushes. And between the Bushes and Kerry through Skull & Bones. Two aristocrats have more in common than any aristocrat has with a working class person in any case, regardless of party affiliation. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=qutb>Qutb</A> at: 9/10/05 6:26 pm<br></i>
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Re: ...

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:09 pm

You've been hitting the nail on the head, Ted, and it is scary to see how Americans can only relate to sports-think or movie images. We have become a nation of the make-believe. I wonder if rote learning crowds out the ability to think independently. Hey, maybe THAT's why the Bush cabal has been so hot on the No Child Left Behind agenda---crowding out independent thinking, focusing all resources on the lowest-performing portion of the school-age population while starving resouces for the average and above. Hmmmm.. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: rapt

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:21 pm

I disagree. My reading is that John Kerry has been intending to run for president since he was 16. His ego and ambition rule, his image is king. He conceded waaaay too soon because he didn't want to look like a cry-baby, considering only his own image, not taking into account the vast electorate who counted on him to protect their voting rights. I think it was his personal defects that ruled. <p></p><i></i>
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Kerry/Skull&Bones

Postby km artlu » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:18 am

I always found it thought-provoking that Teresa Heinz Kerry's late husband, Senator Heinz of the food product fortune, was Skull and Bones. Seeing his fortune pass over to Kerry's use could almost make it appear that an initiate's assets stay with S&B.<br><br>Not to mentiom that Joe Sixpack somehow deemed it unremarkable that the 2004 presidential "election" just happened to feature a selection of "opponants" who both belong to the same secret society.<br><br>That gave me a fleeting, evil sense of sharing the contempt in which we the people are held by the ruling class. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Kerry/Skull&Bones

Postby Qutb » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:51 am

km artlu, I didn't know that about Senator Heinz. That is pretty interesting. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.sandersresearch.com/Sanders/NewsManager/ShowNewsGen.aspx?NewsID=985" target="top">Here's</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> an interesting article about Kerry's background, specifically his maternal family, the Forbes. Interesting that his grandfather was a close associate of French mandarin Jean Monnet, the founding father of the European Community, which became the European Union. <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.texemarrs.com/images/kerry_in_curtains.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Re: Kerry/Skull&Bones

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:21 am

All the Skull and Boners cared about was making sure it was one of their guys. <p></p><i></i>
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