Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D, NV) suffers stroke...

[ARV]

Senator Harry Reid, who happens to be the strongest opposition-party leader in the US Senate, suffered a "minor" stroke this past Tuesday. Does anyone out there see a pattern here?<br><br>1. Harry Reid's stroke --This week<br>2. Robin Cook's "fall" --Two weeks ago<br>3. Mother of Cindy Sheehan suffers a stroke--potentially derailing her anti-war vigil. --This week<br>4. Coretta Scott-King's stroke --last week<br><br>It seems like the only people safe are those who are friends of Bush/Blair...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/19/AR2005081901457.html">www.washingtonpost.com/wp...01457.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[toscaveritas]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh<br><br>you should have placed a warning on the post heading to only view with tinfoil hat firmly placed on head! lol<br><br>interesting weeks-- interesting 'coincidences'<br><br>plane crashes, strokes, heart attacks, internet worms.......<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Peachtree Pam]

Hi ARV and Tosca,<br><br>Tosca and I have already been venting about General Byrnes's dismissal.<br><br>My first thought when hearing about Cindy's mother was: how convenient!<br><br>Second thought: this is a warning.... <p></p><i></i>

[toscaveritas]

Pam...<br><br>I agree--- that was my first thought also- how convenient-- i wouldnt be surprised if the 'condition worsens' mysteriously, or the poor old mom suffers another 'major stroke' and Cindy is prevented from returning to Camp Casey for the remaining weeks of August.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Peachtree Pam]

All along I was thinking: these thugs are not going to let this continue; Cindy is too effective a speaker and her support is increasing; she is what Bush detests: someone who "talks back to him".<br><br>Let's hope we are wrong...... <p></p><i></i>

[normanmiller]

Hmmm...Somebody has a stroke and instead a condolence all that is issued are snide comments about a "supposed" attempt to redirect public attention on Sheehan? So much for sympathy......<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Norm<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://weirdevents.blogspot">weirdevents.blogspot</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[toscaveritas]

norman<br><br>thank you SO much for reminding me to post 'touchy-feely' remarks, which so many people view as a purely 'liberal' trait. <br><br>here's my official statement:<br><br>To Cindy Sheehan<br><br>Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your COURAGE, your devotion, your humility, your LOVE! You have been an inspiration for millions and shown all of us, what the true power of motherhood is all about! Now that your own mother needs you, I want to express my deepest sympathy for your family's days of trouble and am sending you thoughts of strength and peace to get through this time. May your mother recover speedily amidst her loving children.<br><br>now to norm:<br><br>I missed your comments of condolences. Where did you post yours? Where are your comments of SUPPORT and understanding of a grieving mother? I must have missed those to! <br><br>FYI: I am a MOTHER and can give you this statement in writing: They will have to KILL me first, before they can put my son into a uniform! get it? I will NOT sacrifice my son , my blood, to any rich man's war! <br><br>As a mother, I grieve with EVERY mother who has lost her children, soldiers or civilians! Where are your statements of condolences, your outrage over the DEATHS of thousands of Iraqi children? Where is your empathy and outrage over the detention and TORTURE of Iraqi CHILDREN by U.S. forces?<br><br>either you are with the fascist forces or against them; chose your side<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[normanmiller]

One thing you forget is that I do feel for Sheehan despite your weak attempt at trying to portray me as "insensitive". I respect Sheehan for coming out against the war and her loss, but I feel she has followed a different path that I personally cannot follow. I disagree with her because I feel she is wrong. You feel she is right and that is fine and respectable also. People disagree and agree on many issues. I just feel it is example of cynical behavior when people just out right claim that others such has Reid get into medical trouble and the first thing that people do is denouce it as "redirection" from the issue such as Sheehan. I feel for anyone who ends up in a medical situation or who ends up losing a loved one. I just feel it is poor taste and poor judgement to outright claim that someone or some party is using it to gain a political advantage with out the benefit of proof. I did not vote for for Clinton and disagreed with some of his policies, but at least I show respect for people who suffer injuries such as Heart attacks. That is the proper thing to do irrespective of the political beliefs. As for your "mother" issue, I am a father or three children and I love them also. Your feelings of protecting your children is no different than what a father feels. You feelings are not mutually exclusive to sex. Where is your outrage for the millions of men, women and children who died under Saddam? Where is your outrage for the hundreds of thousands who died in a pointless 8 year war with Iran started by Saddam? Where is your outrage for the thousands killed in Kuwait? I think you suffer from selective atrocity feelings. I believe you excoriate the US because you implicitly hate US policy and give a pass to others that do not fit your political agenda. Atrocities are wrong on either side but at least I am willing to acknowledge both. Are you? If you wish to excoriate me on the issue, feel free. I will not change my opinions. So feel free to call me all the names you wish. It's like water off a ducks back. <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Where is your outrage for the millions of men, women and children who died under Saddam? Where is your outrage for the hundreds of thousands who died in a pointless 8 year war with Iran started by Saddam? Where is your outrage for the thousands killed in Kuwait?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>You're assuming that people don't have that outrage. But wars target nations, not merely national leaders. And the last thing this war has resembled is a mercy mission on behalf of the Iraqi people. <br><br>I think the "millions" figure is hyperbole, by the way. It's a number picked out of the air and tossed around in an ex post facto attempt at justifying the war. Go on, find me a reliably sourced statistic to back you up. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 8/21/05 12:49 am<br></i>

[robertdreed]

I'm not a big fan of this thread, which implies something causal about strokes and other misfortunes hitting some vaguely defined set of people who can be counted under the nebulous heading "foes of Bush."<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 8/21/05 1:07 am<br></i>

[toscaveritas]

I am outraged that the CIA put Saddam in power, that the U.S. government instigated, directed the Iraq/Iran war and sold weapons to BOTH sides. I'm outraged that the U.S. sold cross-drilling technology to Kuwaitis, then gave SAddam the 'green light' to invade. I'm outraged over the 'incubator' LIES, i'm outraged over the 'road of death', i'm also outraged over 500,000 Iraqi children who died because of the 'sanctions', which were continously broken by U.S. oil companies by using smuggling techniques throught third-party front companies, while the Iraqi people were suffering and the CIA installed Dictator tortured and killed them. I"m outraged over the thousands of Shiites who were killed because the US didn't support them when Bush the elder called for their 'uprising' and then didnt support them. I"m also outraged over the completely illegal 'no fly zones' which were used to continously bomb targets like the electrical and water supplies to the Iraqi people - this has been a continous war on the Iraqi people and they KNOW it! I'm also outraged over U.S soldiers who are seriously ill with Gulf War Syndrome and who get NO help at all, I'm outraged over the misformed children born to Gulf War vets, vets who are HOMELESS , the shut-down of VA hospitals, etc....<br><br>the only ones who benefit from these wars are the ELITES-- their children don't die, they don't get contaminated with DU or used as guinea pigs for new 'vaccines' , they don't have bombs dropping on their homes, or pass check points, their homes are not raided.......<br><br>wake up out of your lazyboy chair --support the victims and expose the REALITY of war and the real perpetrators-- corporate fascist whores of GREED and power-hunger<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[normanmiller]

Luckily your not anti-american. <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Support our troops:<br>Draft the Bush Twins <p></p><i></i>

[toscaveritas]

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."<br> -- Theodore Roosevelt <br><br>I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.<br>Thomas Paine <br><br>To establish any mode to abolish war, however advantageous it might be to Nations, would be to take from such Government the most<!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"> lucrative of its branches.</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--><br>Thomas Paine <br><br> David Sharp, US Marine Commandant General 1966<br><br>"I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar soaked fingers out of the business of these [Third World] nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own ... And if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the "haves" refuse to share with the "have-nots" by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don't want and above all don't want crammed down their throats by Americans." <br><br>Smedley D. Butler, USMC Major General 1933<br><br><br>"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people.<br><br>Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.<br><br>I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.<br><br>I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the<!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"> bankers. </span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket...<br><br>In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.<br><br>Abraham Lincoln, 16th US President Nov 21, 1864<br><br>"I see in the near future a crisis approaching. It unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. The money powers preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me & the <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">financial institutions </span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->at the rear, the latter is my greatest foe. Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed."</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--><br><br>letter to William Elkins, Nov 21, 1864 (just after the passage of the National Banking Act) Lincoln was killed on April 15, 1865 six days after General Robert E. Lee surrendered his Confederate army. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[psyop samurai]

Ah yes, "our" side's no worse than "theirs". ...What a lovely refuge (it's not even an argument, really). <br><br>Setting aside the illusory nature of "sides" in this sham "war", what this slippery defense manages to overlook is the fact that "Saddam", whatever the truth of said entity might be, never claimed to represent me. <br><br>That thing in the White House does. <br><br>Nor did I ever imagine that he represented me, nor did I ever entrust him with the fate of my nation. <br><br>Not so, that thing in the White House.<br><br>This line of reasoning (or rationalization) would have us believe that the actions of the United States of America should be measured against those of a third world tyrannical dictator, and that proof of our virtue lies in appearing "no worse" than they. Is that really what we aspire to? I mean, I've heard of "defining deviancy downward", but that's a bit much. In fact, it strikes me as craven and cowardly. <br><br>So you can stick your phony comparisons and rationalizations, and the phony inculpability they're designed to sustain.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=psyopsamurai@rigorousintuition>psyop samurai</A> at: 8/21/05 2:51 pm<br></i>