New Newsweek Poll: Bush Approval 38% - record low

by **Qutb** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:53 pm

52% of Americans don't trust Bush in a crisis. Was race a factor: Whites - yes 31% Nonwhites - yes - 65% Bush's Approval for Terrorism and Homeland Security - Approval 46% Disapproval 48%. Are you satisfied with the direction the Country is headed: Satisfied 28% Dissatisfied 66% If Congressional Elections were held today, who do you lean toward voting for: Democrats 50% Republicans 38% Absolutely Dismal ##'s for Bush and the GOP. As reported on MSNBC. __________ Even on terrorism/security more people disapprove than approve. The wind is turning, as it always does. They will probably lose the House in 2006, if nothing out of the ordinary happens. No wonder they are itching to impose martial law. Time is running short. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:22 pm

But compare the responses of those questions which include Bush's name, and the questions which do not include Bush's name. If the question does not have Bush's name in it, the responses are more critical. Too weird.

by **Felix** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:28 pm

Time IS running out. It certainly does "feel" like martial law will be in effect soon. I can't see that Bush and the machine behind him will ever give up the crown (presidency). 2008 elections seem like just so much wishful thinking by the masses. Because no matter how enraged people are by Bush, most don't see him for the truly evil person he is and so they are able to continue as if it will all be over soon. I guess that's called denial.

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:51 pm

As I've posted before, GHWB and GWB (and co-thugs) are most dangerous when we've got them cornered. They are now cornered.

by **Qutb** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:52 pm

It shows that it's not just Bush. People are fed up with the whole Republican party. And many of their staunch supporters are probably having second thoughts: pictures of the 82nd Airborne confiscating weapons at gunpoint in Louisiana must be making the "2nd Amendment" types very uncomfortable. Bush's bullying of governor Blanco can't sit well with defenders of "states' rights". The current gas prices must be disappointing to those who, approvingly, thought Iraq was all about cheap gas. And Katrina came as a rude awakening to many who thought Bush was a "strong leader" who "makes us safe". Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Qutb** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:01 pm

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by **manxkat** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:11 pm

"The wind is turning, as it always does. They will probably lose the House in 2006..." Uh, that assumes we have transparent elections with a paper trail. And, even if the Dems DO win the House back, will that really make much difference? Sorry for the pessimism, but the Dems (who I've ALWAYS voted for) have let us down big time and the majority of them are now so compromised that I just don't see these poll numbers as particularly hopeful. Sure, I'd love to see Bush impeached and publicly disgraced, but who will we elect in his place? Hillary or some other sell-out, beholden to the corporations and PTB. No thank you. There are MUCH better people out there, but they don't have a chance.

by **DrDebugDU** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:23 pm

It feels like a lot of things have changed. It started last Tuesday and I wasn't the only one who felt that way, it was like this was one disaster too far. Also the news is acting weird. Even pro-Bush media is starting to criticize and writing interesting articles. It sounds like the MSM is getting fed up covering Bush's ass as well. Maybe the psychological effect of seeing people waiting to be rescued for several days without anything happening was the trigger. It's just a dream... <img src="http://xs45.xs.to/pics/05366/bushes.jpg"/> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/10/05 1:23 pm

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:36 pm

I could not agree with you more. Would there be any difference with Demos in control? Would they be able to claw back all the damage GHWB/GWB have done? Ever? Even if all of them were uncorrupted? There has to be RADICAL change in the very structure of the American polical system. The length of the time to campaign should be limited to three weeks. No more. TV appearances should be free (paid for by the government) etc. This will not happen. Electronic voting machines should be dumped into the Atlantic. Paper ballots should be used. Independent entities should count the ballots. There should be a means of verifying totals...and so on... It will not happen.

by **Ted the dog** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:50 pm

"But compare the responses of those questions which include Bush's name, and the questions which do not include Bush's name. If the question does not have Bush's name in it, the responses are more critical. Too weird. " I think the weirdest thing about the past 5 years is the rise of Bush as a cult leader. He literally IS a cult leader. I’m not even speaking metaphorically either...I'm not talking about any connection to browning texas and satanism here.

by **DrDebugDU** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:22 pm

Actually that cult aspect is the scary part. I know what you mean and there quite a number of people were you see that the people are mesmorized by Bush. And that is something we have seen before with other leaders. I have heard descriptions like 'magnetic' and 'feeling frozen in his presence'. Even though the same has been said about certain celebrities, it is also mentioned about people like Hitler, Stalin, Goering and Mao. Goering - probably one of the most horrible people who ever lived - was described as irresistible. The allies had a hard time with Goering and the American guard was under his spell from the moment he met him and ended up giving him his suicide pill.

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:31 pm

Well, Ted the Dog is right. He is "a man of faith" and knows all the code words, as did Hitler, which causes the hearts of racists, bigots, corporate ceos, and every other form of scum, to sing. As Mummy (the reptile) put it so well "You are 'the chosen one' ".

by **Qutb** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:56 pm

I agree, Ted, the "cult of the leader" is very alien to the US political system, and yet we have seen just that with "W". At least it was an attempt, which worked very well for a couple of years. Mind you, it only began after 9/11, as far as I can remember. He wasn't very popular before that, though he did have his loyal Limbaugh-listening core, I don't remember them being as fanatical as they became later? I see it as a sort of experiment. How that sort of thing would fly in the US. You know that the financial elite had probably designated Arnold as a future "charismatic" leader for the US, but now that his test-run at the same in California has been such a fiasco, maybe they won't attempt it. I remember his speech at the RNC in New York: "Let's terminate the terrorists", spoken with thick German accent. The crowd went extatic. Truly scary. He's not a doofus like Bush, who is so easily seen as a comic figure, having ruined his brain during many years as an alcoholic. He could become a very dangerous charismatic-fascist führer, if the people would give him a mandate. And he is on the record saying he admires Hitler. Manxkat, I agree, when I said the wind has turned as always, I meant in the two-party political landscape. I do think a Democratic House would make a difference, because it would be less of a monolithic GOP government like it is today. The Dem, or rather DLC, leadership is largely in the pockets of the corporations and Wall Street, but the GOP was becoming similar to the Communist Parties of the former Eastern Europe, controlling House, Senate, White House and Supreme Court. Wouldn't hurt to break up that hegemony. It would be the first Dem House since 1994. Even a Dem president and Congress is no guarantee that the militarists won't continue to advance their agenda (remember Waco and Kosovo), but it's going to be more difficult. There is a ceretain good cop - bad cop aspect to the two-party system, but at least the good cop is better than the bad cop... There are also genuine differences, though. I'm not one of those who think Bush and Kerry were exactly the same, because they were both members of the Skull & Bones. Kerry clearly wasn't a very good candidate, and he was definitely the choice of a certain faction of the elite (the "liberal", internationalist faction, Dubya being the choice of another, more extreme faction), but there was a difference between them. I don't think we would have seen the same thing in New Orleans with John Kerry. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=qutb>Qutb</A> at: 9/10/05 2:59 pm

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:06 pm

Usually, you have a very good grip on reality, but you have LOST IT if you think John Kerry would be an improvement. Kerry said that he WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TROOPS IN IRAQ. Kerry is the good cop. He has total allegiance to the PTB. He refused to contest the vote count in Ohio. He is a joke, pure and simple. How much do you think the Bush goons paid him not to cause a "fuss" with a re-count?

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:35 pm

...stop and think about it. If you had a magic wand that could switch Kerry --and only Kerry---for Bush at any time, would you leave Bush in place? Remember, the future direction of our government is in your hands.

New Newsweek Poll: Bush Approval 38% - record low

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