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Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:58 pm**

From an email which certainly puts the avian flu hype into perspective: it's the "anthrax attacks" (which allowed the passage of the Patriot Act™, unread) all over again... same month too. Now BigPharma wants carte blanche. Call yer Reps! NVIC Note: Yesterday we witnessed the Senate HELP Committee pass this bill out of sub-committee. It is critical that you take action today-immediately. This bill will go back to the committee for a final review on Thursday-October 20, 2005 and then go to the full Senate for a vote. Being led by Republican Richard Burr (R-NC) and being spurred by fears of avian flu, this bill was written and passed out of committee in a 24 hour period. Most members did not even have the final language in front of them. The version that passed will broadly eliminate liability for vaccines and drugs. Please read the press release, write to the members of the HELP committee, write to your own Senator and your own member of Congress. Pass this alert to your family, friends and other organizations you are involved with. Go to our website and take action right now! www.NVIC.org Don't wait for someone else to do it. This is a CODE RED alert to anyone who is concerned about forced vaccination and holding drug companies responsible for the products they create. www.NVIC.org WASHINGTON, Oct. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is calling the "Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005"(S. 1873), which passed out of the U.S. Senate HELP Committee one day after it was introduced "a drug company stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare." The proposed legislation will strip Americans of the right to a trial by jury if harmed by an experimental or licensed drug or vaccine that they are forced by government to take whenever federal health officials declare a public health emergency. The legislation's architect, Senator Richard Burr (R-NC), Chairman of the HELP Subcommittee on Bioterrorism and Public Health Preparedness, told the full HELP Committee yesterday that the legislation "creates a true partnership" between the federal government, the pharmaceutical industry and academia to walk the drug companies "through the Valley of Death" in bringing a new vaccine or drug to market. Burr said it will give the Department of Health and Human Services "additional authority and resources to partner with the private sector to rapidly develop drugs and vaccines." The Burr bill gives the Secretary of DHHS the sole authority to decide whether a manufacturer violated laws mandating drug safety and bans citizens from challenging his decision in the civil court system. The bill establishes the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Agency (BARDA), as the single point of authority within the government for the advanced research and development of drugs and vaccines in response to bioterrorism and natural disease outbreaks such as the flu. BARDA will operate in secret, exempt from the Freedom of Information Act and the Federal Advisory Committee Act, insuring that no evidence of injuries or deaths caused by drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" will become public. Nicknamed "Bioshield Two," the legislation is being pushed rapidly through Congress without time for voters to make their voices heard by their elected representatives. Co-sponsored by Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chairman Mike Enzi (R-WY), and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Judd Gregg (R-NH), the legislation will eliminate both regulatory and legal safeguards applied to vaccines as well as take away the right of children and adults harmed by vaccines and drugs to present their case in front of a jury in a civil court of law. "It is a sad day for this nation when Congress is frightened and bullied into allowing one profit making industry to destroy the seventh Amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing citizens their day in court in front of a jury of their peers," said Barbara Loe Fisher, president of NVIC. "This proposed legislation, like the power and money grab by federal health officials and industry in the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project Bioshield Act of 2004, is an unconstitutional attempt by some in Congress to give a taxpayer-funded handout to pharmaceutical companies for drugs and vaccines the government can force all citizens to use while absolving everyone connected from any responsibility for injuries and deaths which occur. It means that, if an American is injured by an experimental flu or anthrax vaccine he or she is mandated to take, that citizen will be banned from exercising the Constitutional right to a jury trial even if it is revealed that the vaccine maker engaged in criminal fraud and negligence in the manufacture of the vaccine." The federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is legally responsible for regulating the pharmaceutical industry and ensuring that drugs and vaccines released to the public are safe and effective. Drug companies marketing painkillers, like Vioxx, and anti-depressants, which have resulted in the deaths and injuries of thousands of children and adults, are being held accountable in civil court while the FDA has come under intense criticism for withholding information about the drugs' dangers from the public. Since1986, vaccine makers have been protected from most liability in civil court through the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in which Congress created a federal vaccine injury compensation program (VICP) that offers vaccine victims an alternative to the court system. Even though the program has awarded nearly $2 billion to victims of mandated vaccines, two out of three plaintiffs are turned away. "The drug companies and doctors got all the liability protection they needed in 1986 but they are greedy and want more," said Fisher. "And the federal health agencies want more power to force citizens to use vaccines without having to worry about properly regulating them. If the Burr bill passes, all economic incentives to insure mandated vaccines are safe will be removed and the American people are facing a future where government can force them to take poorly regulated experimental drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" or go to jail. The only recourse for citizens will be to strike down mandatory vaccination laws so vaccines will be subject to the law of supply and demand in the marketplace. The health care consumer's cry will be: No liability? No mandates." The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) was founded by parents of vaccine injured children in 1982 and co-founders worked with Congress on the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. For more information, go to <a href="http://www.nvic.org./">www.nvic.org./</a>

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:06 pm**

It will be a cold day in hell before I take any vaccine they offer or try to force upon me. I'd rather die of the disease, at least the disease is honest. Unless it's manufactured by the powers that be. Bunch of bastards. I'm so sick of this daily assault on our rights. Damn them!

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:14 pm**

ahh, but what if the disease was incredibly painful with pustules or discharge or the inability to functio for more than 5 minutes without having to shit? What if the other choice was live in the woods with you r infant babies and eat bark, or put into a fully-citizen supported isolation-detention camp seething with infection and sick, leprotic people? What about the rest of the wussies, like the people with kids? What are we going to do to escape this dialectical- catch-22?

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:24 pm**

1. call your reps 2. ???

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:27 pm**

I am FLOORED by this. What if they throw people in jail or put them in special camps for refusal to take the vaccine? Dammit! I'm ready to get on a plane. Only problem is, there's no where to escape. Shite!! I'll call my reps, but I have a feeling it will make no difference at all.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:28 pm**

I don't know what others will do, but I am saving two bullets for myself, just in case I chicken out and miss the first time. I am calling and writing to congress...for the 60th time this week and it's only Wednesday. And notifiying my entire family and anyone else I can think of. It's a full time job just trying to keep track of all the shenanigans they are pulling on everyone. I think it's time for people to do whatever they can to boost their own immune systems. Will that help? It's better than nothin'. At least it might fight off some of the effects of any poison they are going to pump into people by force if they get this through. But hey, what if the killer is in the vaccine? What if all this legal mumbo jumbo is just to throw people off and make them believe it's "for our own good" ? I don't doubt that if this is what they wanted to do, they would do it. Is there ANY opportunity they've passed up yet? There isn't even a person to person passing of the bird flu yet. There's not even an epidemic anywhere, much less a pandemic. None of what they are doing is about any bird flu as far as I can see. It's just another power grab and maybe worse.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:50 pm**

As I noted above, this is precisely the kind of hysteria that was deliberately created to smooth the passage of the original Patriot Act™. It worked, but at that time they had 911 and the "mysterious" anthrax attacks as the catalyst. <a href="http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/open_letters/open_letter_reaction.htm">Dr Rath</a> believes 911 was the work of BigPharma. Here's another article on the bill: Congress Poised To Give Immunity To Unsafe Vaccines Center for Justice and Democracy 10-19-5 Congress Poised To Rush Through Sweeping Immunity For Possibly Unsafe Vaccines And Other Drugs Americans Likely To Become Human Guinea Pigs On October 17, 2005, a new Biodefense bill will be introduced in the U.S. Senate and is expected to be pushed through the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, without hearings. THE BILL WOULD WIPE OUT BOTH REGULATORY AND LEGAL SAFEGUARDS AGAINST CERTAIN UNSAFE VACCINES, DRUGS AND DEVICES, LEAVING THE INDUSTRY COMPLETELY OFF THE HOOK FOR HARMING AMERICAN CITIZENS The Biodefense bill, likely written at the behest of drug and health industry lobbyists, basically eradicates regulatory safeguards against the production of unsafe vaccines, drugs and devices that the government determines to be for pandemic, epidemic or bioterrorism/security countermeasure use, and then wipes out liability for any drug company or health care provider that makes or dispenses them. It does so by: * Allowing accelerated approval of a drug, biological product, device or research tool that the government determines to be a national security or pandemic priority, severely weakening the normal safeguards that prevent unsafe vaccines, drugs and medical devices from reaching consumers, and, * Creating an exclusive federal cause of action against the manufacturer or health care provider of such vaccines, preempting all state products liability law, then taking away the right to bring these federal claims. * As a result, families of patients who are killed or injured due to a defective or dangerous vaccine, drugs or devices that fit within this category will have no recourse, no ability to file a claim or lawsuit, no way to collect any compensation even if the drug company or health care provider was negligent, reckless or in some cases intentionally harmful. * This legislation would remove all financial accountability for the drug industry that produces these vaccines, drugs and devices, removing the financial incentive they have to produce only safe products. * This bill would be a massive intrusion into state law, pandering to the drug industry with provisions that also include eliminating anti-trust laws, and imposed without a single public hearing. THE MASSIVE LIABILITY PROTECTION CONTAINED IN THIS BILL DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE REASONS WHY THIS COUNTRY EXPERIENCES FLU VACCINE SHORTAGES The drug industry is engaged in colossal and unjustified fear-mongering, blaming "lawsuits" and "liability" for the flu vaccine shortages in 2004. Nothing could be further from the truth. According to a 2004 Washington Post investigation,1 flu vaccine shortages are due to arcane production and supply and demand problems, not liability problems. * The flu virus mutates easily, requiring new annual production. According to the Washington Post, "Generally, at least one strain each year undergoes so much mutation that it needs to be replaced by an "updated" version in the next year's vaccine. Consequently, a new flu vaccine formula has to be drawn up each year." 2 * The industry uses old-fashioned, risky technology. The flu vaccine is made "by injecting virus into fertilized chicken eggs. Each egg must be hand-inspected and hand-injected. One egg grows enough virus for 4 or 5 doses of vaccine. Millions are needed. They have some of the risk, time pressure and uncertainty of political races and military attacks." 3 * The market for flu vaccines faces uncertain supply and demand and a small profit margin. According to the Washington Post, "In 2001-02, 10 million doses were pitched. The next year (Wyeth's last) the number was 13 million. Last winter, despite a run on vaccine in an earlier-than-usual flu season, 4 million doses, out of 87 million made, were discarded. The waste is particularly hard for vaccine makers to stomach because their profit margin is small. Because muuch of the vaccine is bought in huge orders by government agencies, the price is low." 4 * The industry is about to radically change its production. As the Washington Post stated, "[N]obody wants to invest hundreds of millions of dollars and five-to-seven years in building an egg-based vaccine plant when the whole industry is on the verge of switching to a radically new way of making the product. Sometime in the next decade, flu vaccine will start to be grown in cell cultures, not eggs. It is a technology far more clean, predictable and expandable than the egg-based way of old." 5 THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) DISCOUNTED THE IMPORTANCE OF LIABILITY CONCERNS FOR CREATING VACCINE PRODUCTION PROBLEMS Consistent with the above Washington Post investigation, a recent article in JAMA found: * "There are ample reasons to suspect that flu vaccine is not an attractive product to drug manufacturers quite apart from liability concerns." * "[T]he historical record provides cause for skepticism that liability relief alone will prevent another flu vaccine shortage... These shortages likely resulted primarily from factors other than litigation costs, as did the flu vaccine crisis." THE DRUG INDUSTRY ALREADY BENEFITS FROM LIABILITY PROTECTION FOR PRODUCTION OF SEASONAL FLU VACCINES AND OTHER CHILDHOOD VACCINES The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (enacted under the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986) provides drug manufacturers protection from lawsuits arising out of injuries caused by vaccination, forcing injured victims into an administrative compensation program8 The Program covers the major childhood vaccines as well as the seasonal flu vaccine (this was added in 2004).9 * Since its conception almost 20 years ago, an average of 75 percent of claims are denied.10 * Many of these claims are denied after long and contentious legal battles taking an average of 7 years to be resolved.11 * Attorneys are less likely to take on vaccine injury cases due to these bureaucratic and political hurdles.12 * The Fund is designed so that the Department of Health and Human Services may unilaterally tighten the restrictions on claimants. In 1995, DHHS changed the burdens of proof so drastically that claims went from being paid in one out of three cases to one out of seven.13 NOTES 1 David Brown, "How U.S. Got Down to Two Makers Of Flu Vaccine," Washington Post, October 17, 2004), 2 Ibid. 3 Ibid. 4 Ibid. 5 Ibid. 6 Mello MM, Brennan TA. Legal Concerns and the Influenza Vaccine Shortage. JAMA. October 12, 2005, 294: 1820. 7 Ibid. 8 42 USC Â§ 300 aa-1, table can be found on-line at http://bhpr.hrsa.gov/vicp/table.htm 9 Fact Sheet, Flu Vaccine Crisis: The Role of Liability Concerns, Office of Rep. Henry A. Waxman, Committee on Government Reform, U.S. House of Representatives, October 18, 2004. 10 John Hanchette, Legislation to Improve Vaccine Injury Compensation Introduced, Gannett News Service, (Mar. 29, 2001) 11 Elizabeth c. Scott, "The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act Turns Fifteen," 56 Food Drug L.J. 351 (2001) 12 24 J. Health Pol. Pol"y & L. 82. 13 Statement of the National Vaccine Information Center Co-Founder & President, Barbara Loe Fisher, September 28, 1999, House Oversight Hearing"Compensating Vaccine Injury: Are Reforms Needed?" Center for Justice and Democracy 80 Broad Street, Suite 1600 New York, New York 10004 http://www.centerjd.orgcenterjd@centerjd.org 212.267.2801 212.764.4298 <a href="http://www.rense.com/general68/congresspoisedtogive.htm">link</a>

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:05 pm**

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>is expected to be pushed through the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, without hearings<hr></blockquote> This sort of thing really pisses me off. WHO is pushing this shit through without hearings? WHO has the power to bypass the democratic process. It's not happening by itself, is it? If we don't get names all the anger on this thread is useless. So long as they think they can do this sort of thing in secret it will get worse. It's the sort of thing the Internet should excel at. Passing round names. If it were known that Sen. Joe Bloggs was behind it we could fuck Joe Bloggs. And I mean really fuck him. All this "call your rep" is a load of bollocks unless you've got a name. They are laughing at us. They'll do ANYTHING if they can do it in secret. It's about time to give those fuckers our own version of "political hardball".

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:13 pm**

Well, when I wrote and called today, I asked if everyone in Congress had lost their damned minds. Usually I am polite. But it gets me nowhere. I want to be heard, dammit.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:18 pm**

Here's the list that is available at the link in the first post. Frist has been trying to indemnify BigPharma for years. He actually stuck a rider on an earlier bill but was caught-out and it was struck down. Now they're right in our faces, in full view with nobody crying foul: The final version of this bill will be decided by Thursday, October 20, 2005. You need to call and e-mail your Senator right now. This broader bill is being led by Republicans and will incorporate liability protections that will extend beyond bioterrorism products into the commercial market. 1- Contact members of the HELP Committee who are considering this bill. 2- Contact your own Senator even if he/she is not on the HELP Committee. 3- Contact your member in the House of Representatives. This bill is moving fast and will be in the House soon. 4-Send this information to your friends and families and ask them to also contact their Senators. HELP MEMBERS REPUBLICANS Gregg, Judd (R - NH) 393 Senate Russell Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-3324 Fax: (202) 224-4952 <a href="http://gregg.senate.gov/sitepages/contact.cfm">gregg.senate.gov/sitepages/contact.cfm</a> Frist, William (R - TN) 509 Hart Senate Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-3344 Fax: (202) 228-1264 <a href="http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=AboutSenatorFrist.ContactForm">frist.senate.gov/index.cf...ontactForm</a> Enzi, Mike (R - WY) 379A Senate Russell Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-3424 Fax: (202) 228-0359 <a href="http://enzi.senate.gov/email.htm">enzi.senate.gov/email.htm</a> Burr Richard (R-NC) 217 Russell Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-3154 Fax: (202) 228-2981 <a href="http://burr.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Home">burr.senate.gov/index.cfm...ntact.Home</a> Isakson Johnny (R- GA) 120 Russell Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 (202) 224-3643 Fax: (202) 228-0724 <a href="http://isakson.senate.gov/contact.cfm">isakson.senate.gov/contact.cfm</a> Alexander, Lamar (R-TN) 302 Senate Hart Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-4944 Fax: (202) 228-3398 <a href="http://alexander.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Home">alexander.senate.gov/inde...ntact.Home</a> Bond, Christopher (R - MO) 274 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-5721 Fax (202) 224-8149 <a href="http://bond.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm">bond.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm</a> Roberts, Pat (R - KS) 109 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-4774 Fax (202) 224-3514 <a href="http://roberts.senate.gov/e-mail_pat.html">roberts.senate.gov/e-mail_pat.html</a> Ensign, John (R - NV) 356 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-6244 Fax (202) 228-2193 <a href="http://ensign.senate.gov/forms/email_form.cfm">ensign.senate.gov/forms/email_form.cfm</a> DeWine, Mike (R - OH) 140 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-2315 Fax (202) 224-6519 <a href="http://dewine.senate.gov/">dewine.senate.gov/</a> DEMOCRATS Kennedy, Edward - (D - MA) 317 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-4543 Fax: (202) 224-2417 <a href="http://kennedy.senate.gov/index_high.html">kennedy.senate.gov/index_high.html</a> Dodd, Christopher (D - CT) 448 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone (202) 224-2823 Fax (202) 228-1683 <a href="http://dodd.senate.gov/webmail/form-opinion.html">dodd.senate.gov/webmail/f...inion.html</a> Harkin, Tom (D - IA) 731 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone (202) 224-3254 Fax (202) 224-9369 <a href="http://harkin.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm">harkin.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm</a> Mikulski, Barbara (D - MD) 503 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-4654 Fax (202)224-8858 <a href="http://mikulski.senate.gov/contactme/mailform.html">mikulski.senate.gov/conta...lform.html</a> Bingaman, Jeff (D - NM) 703 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> 202) 224-5521 Fax (202) 224-2852 senator_bingaman@bingaman.senate.gov Murray, Patty (D - WA) 173 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-2621 Fax: (202) 224-0238 <a href="http://murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm">murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm</a> Reed, Jack (D - RI) 728 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> 202) 224-4642 Fax (202) 224-4680 <a href="http://reed.senate.gov/form-opinion.htm">reed.senate.gov/form-opinion.htm</a> Clinton, Hillary (D - NY) 476 Russell Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-4451 D.C. Fax (202) 228-0282 NY Fax (631) 249-2847 <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm?subj=issue">clinton.senate.gov/contac...subj=issue</a>

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:37 pm**

If Donald Rumsfeld recommended this, I think we can ensure that they're SPREADING the virus through vaccine... <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In 1976, a military recruit in New Jersey died from a flu that experts speculated might be the "swine flu". At Rumsfeld's urging, the Ford administration quickly produced and distributed huge amounts of vaccine. Some batches were contaminated. 600 people sickened and 52 died. The program was stopped and nobody got swine flu.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld#Ford_Administration" target="top">Wikipedia</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thumperton@rigorousintuition>thumperton</A> at: 10/19/05 5:42 pm

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:20 pm**

Thanks for the heads-up, 1Tal and all. For what it's worth, I spent a few minutes drafting a simple message to my reps -- Here's a good link to find and access your own Reps and Senators: <a href="http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/">www.congress.org/congressorg/home/</a> Here's my simple e-mail message, which I amended with the stories cited for my Reps information: Dear XXXXXX; I can't hardly believe how supremely arrogant and contemptuous some members of Congress are acting -- the latest assault on the Public Interest providing an unprecedented legal waiver to the Big Pharmacy special interest block in the pending bill, "Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005"(S. 1873), which passed out of the U.S. Senate HELP Committee one day after it was introduced -- and which the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) called, "a drug company stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare." This Bill is simply horrible, removing all accountability and liability for vaccine manufacturers, distributors and related oversight agencies for actions that might seriously endanger the public health -- such sweeping exclusion is COMPLETELY unwarranted and totally unnecessary. Such blatant abuse of authority and a gratuitous gift to Big Pharmacy is unconscionable -- I sure hope you are NOT considering approving this criminal farce. Imagine ANY bill moving with such speed through committee that has the potential for such horrible consequences! Please resist all pressure and influence to lend your support to this disasterous legislation -- Those who do WILL have to face the outrage of their betrayed electorate. Sincerely; X _____ It doesn't need to be complex -- anyone feel free to use mine as a guide, or elaborate on. Best; Starman

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:26 pm**

Hi S, Welcome back!

Posted: **Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:08 am**

...rig the system so that their top management can make decisions, sell products, or pollute in such a way that they harm other people without the corporation being subject to the liability (or in case of intentional conduct, the individuals involved), then this excuses the victim from having to play by any rules too. Which means if Mr. Moneybags sells my kid a dangerous toy, buries plutonium in my neighborhood, or steals my 401k, I can go to his fucking house with a machete and hold it to his throat till he hands me a pile of cash. And if it's something money can't compensate, he can pay in kind--an eye put out by the toy for an eye. Sorry, I believe the system either works for everybody, or the person who wants to be above the law has forfeited the right to then ask for its protection.

Posted: **Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:30 am**

I have felt the same way banned; this is how uprisings begin. The power game evolves into who has control of the laws and the enforcers, and we know who that is. Until perhaps the enforcers get tired of the game.

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