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Posted: **Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:20 am**

"all we need is money just give us what you can spare twenty or thirty pounds of potatoes or twenty of thirty beers a turkey on thanks giving like alms for the poor all we need are the necessities and more it was better before they voted for what his name this is suppose to be the new world don't forget the motor city this was suppose to be the new world" X - The New World lyrics I can't make an iron-clad case that the Detroit mayoral election was a stolen, though I know I'm not the only one saying it. And, I think the contents of this Free Press article will likely encourage at least some of you to suspect the same. I live far enough from Detroit that I don't really follow what's happening downtown much anymore, but close enough that I think about that city a lot. Detroit's been dying for a long time, maybe long enough that many already think of it in past tense. Still, I fear their worst days are yet to come. And, since what happened in New Orleans, I also fear those days may not be long off. I don't have much to add about this right now. But, maybe some others on this board do. I just feel this was a bad omen even though I don't know much about Hendrix. And, I don't want it said that we completely forgot the Motor City. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Exit polls: Hendrix holds thin lead in mayoral race Tuesday, November 8, 2005 BY M.L. ELRICK FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER For months pollsters had challenger Freman Hendrix leading incumbent Kwame Kilpatrick in the Detroit mayoral race, but their final survey of voters left no clear indication who would win. A Free Press/WXYZ-TV poll of about 500 people who said they voted showed Hendrix with a slight lead over Kilpatrick. But the 53%-47% margin was within the poll's margin of error and included a large number of absentee voters - a group that pollster Ed Sarpolus of EPIC/MRA said favors Hendrix. At 8 p.m., a Detroit News/WDIV-TV exit poll of 500 voters showed Hendrix leading Kilpatrick 55%-45%, but pollster Steve Mitchell of Mitchell Research reportedly said he planned to talk to 300 more voters and could not call the race yet. Mitchell said earlier this week that Kilpatrick would need 62% of the black vote to win. The Free Press/WXYZ-TV poll on Tuesday showed the candidates splitting the black vote while Hendrix received virtually all of the white vote. Both Mitchell and Sarpolus have said the key to victory for Kilpatrick was the youth vote. Sarpolus said Tuesday that Kilpatrick held a 2-to-1 lead over Hendrix in that category. "What I'm seeing here is that the key to the mayor staying in the hunt is the under 40 vote," Sarpolus said, adding that young people are showing up at the polls in high numbers, so far making up about 25 percent of those polled. "If the young people did not come out, it would be a big win for Hendrix," Sarpolus said. Tuesday night's uncertainty capped a fitting end to a tumultuous race in which a bland but experienced bureaucrat challenged a scandal-plagued incumbent with a seemingly bottomless resevoir of charisma. Kilpatrick drew on that precious political resource as he rallied to close the gap on Hendrix, who served as deputy mayor under Dennis Archer. The mayor's youth - when he was elected at age 31, he became Detroit's youngest elected mayor - also seemed to be a factor in his surge. Supporters and voters said his mistakes were the result of inexperience and were not worth turning Kilpatrick out. Little-known when he entered the race 21 months ago, Hendrix relied on his experience running campaigns for Archer and Bill Clinton. At 55, he pitched himself as a mature leader and took advantage of Kilpatrick's use of a city-issued credit card and taxpayer-funded petty cash account for lavish meals and personal expenses. Hendrix's advertising blitz focused on those missteps and one commercial that ended "Tell Kwame the party's over" alluded to a never-proven rumor that Kilpatrick had a wild party at the city-owned Manoogian Mansion. Although Kilpatrick raised more money than Hendrix - $4.4 million to $3.6 million - the mayor spent much of his money before the campaign was in full swing. That helped Hendrix outspend Kilpatrick on television advertising in the last week of the campaign, pumping in $404,825 into ads while the mayor spent $158,450. Kilpatrick said during the campaign that Hendrix didn't have any issues and that the race was essentially a referendum on him. Voters echoed that Tuesday. Clifton McFarland, 59, a real estate agent who was voting in the University District, said he voted for Hendrix because he said the city needs new leadership. "We need someone to focus on the business of the city, not their social life and I think maturity has something to do with it," McFarland said. Marie Beat, an educator who voted at Cannon Recreation Center on the east side, said she didn't hold Kilpatrick responsible for the city's financial predicament. "The city did already have a deficit when he came on board and they've been blaming everything on him," she said. "I just think he needs another chance."<hr></blockquote>

Posted: **Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:31 am**

Hello. Speaking to you from the Dtown Burbs. One should note that the "Free Press" and most Detroit media is OWNED. That is, by our homegrown organized criminals involved with drug trafficking and the Casinos. These people also supported the man who the election was "stolen" from. As for our part, most of us called it the way it went, and we have an explanation for the poll shift in the last few days: AS of two days before the election 16% were undecided. Five days before the election, an AD featuring Hendrix having an elderly black woman removed, by policemen, literally carried, out of a school board meeting, was aired. Even Hendrix cited this ad as being his downfall. This following so shortly the death of Ms Parks (a Detroit resident, meaning we were even MORE innundated with overexposure than the rest of America), could not have looked good for Mr Hendrix. I'd say: DO NOT TRUST THE FREE PRESS, AS THEY ARE ANYTHING BUT "FREE", BEING THE PROPOGANDA MACHINE OF THE OLD GANSTERS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO REMOVE FOR YEARS. Thank you.

Posted: **Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:34 am**

Love the X quote! Another appropriate, and prophetic, song by X: -- I must not think bad thoughts... The civil wars -- and the uncivilized wars Conflagrations leap out of every poor furnace The food cooks poorly and everyone goes hungry From then on it's dog eat dog, dog eat body, body eat dog I can't go down there, I can't understand it I'm a no-good coward, an American too A North American, that is, and I must not think bad thoughts I'm guilty of murder of innocent men Innocent woman and innocent children Thousands of 'em My planes, my guns, my money, my soldiers My blood on my hands -- it's all my fault I must not think bad thoughts...

Posted: **Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:30 am**

Where are you about? Me, I'm 6 mileish, on the edge of Redford (westside). Thanks for the song, btw. Detroit needs all the help it can get. we have spooks selling crack to kids in the inner city, and the suburb cops running it there. my old driver's ed teacher used to run coke for them, so he says. I know he did some time for it. Seems like everyone here is doing something illegal.

Posted: **Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:35 pm**

HH, I live in Dexter now. I've never lived in Detroit. Ann Arbor was as close as I got. But, I used to spend a fair amount of time downtown. We had the drug dealing spooks back in my day too. I agree about the Free Press. Though, I suppose I could say that about all the major media. The DFP really showed their colors when they attacked Conyers over the Great Missing Turkey Conspiracy while he was looking into voting irregularities in Ohio from the 2004 national election. My inferrence about voter fraud in the mayoral election was more from reading between the lines. The jist of the article, I thought, was to prepare the reader for a Kilpatrick victory regardless of what the polls said. As in the "Don't mind the exit polls. They aren't really that accurate." sort of thing I've been hearing a lot over the last year. I tend to judge an article's direction by the last line, and this one ended with "I just think he needs another chance." Still, I would have found reasons to be suspicious of Hendrix too, I'm sure, once I learned more about him. I'm just that kind of guy. And, I really am worried about Detroit. That city is on the brink. And, I'm speaking as someone who's gets (limited, but telling) peeks into most major city infrastructures. It wouldn't take much to push it right over into oblivion. Kilpatrick's main job title seemed to have been Facilitator of Looting. But, at this point, what's left to loot? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=iroquois@rigorousintuition>Iroquois</A> at: 11/12/05 12:16 pm

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