Let's expose the Diebold scam in every state....

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Let's expose the Diebold scam in every state....

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:17 am

Let's Expose Diebold's Potemkin Offices! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>By Bob Fertik <br>Created 2006-01-18 01:57 <br>From Kathy Dopp via Dee Taylor via Joseph Cannon I learn this astonishing news:<br><br>Diebold sold its voting equipment in Utah in part by convincing Utah decision-makers that it had "about 20 offices in Utah" and so was a big company with substantial presence.<br><br>However, a local volunteer noticed that only one of Diebold's Utah office (in Evergreen Business park) answered its phones and that all the others listed in the white pages never answered its phones.<br><br>See White Pages (type in Diebold as the business and select Utah)<br><br>A few days ago this volunteer drove around to all Diebold's locations in 3 counties and discovered that of the 18 Utah offices listed in White Pages - 16 of the listed Diebold locations were phoney and the addresses belonged to either a Walmart or a Sam's Club or no building at all.<br><br>To which Cannon adds:<br><br>We should conduct similar investigations in other states. How much of Diebold is a Potemkin village?<br><br>So I tried it myself, starting here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://yellowpages.superpages.com/listings.jsp?N=diebold&R=N&PP=L&dponmap=true&STYPE=S&L=UT&MS=800">yellowpages.superpages.co...=UT&MS=800</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I changed the state to NY:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://yellowpages.superpages.com/listings.jsp?C=&N=diebold&STYPE=S&CID=&scale=&lng=&lat=&L=NY&search=Find+It">yellowpages.superpages.co...ch=Find+It</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The first listing was 2055 Niagara Falls Boulevard, Buffalo, NY 14228 <br>(716) 564-3701 <br>(note: the phone # is invisible, but if you copy/paste the whole address line, it magically appears)<br><br>I then put the address (without the phone) into Google:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&q=2055+Niagara+Falls+Boulevard%2C+Buffalo%2C+NY+14228&btnG=Search">www.google.com/search?hl=...tnG=Search</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and sure enough, it's a Wal-mart! If you click Google Maps, then Satellite, you can even get a bird's eye view of the huge store and its parking lot. For a closeup, move the zoom tool to the top.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=2055+Niagara+Falls+Boulevard,+Buffalo,+NY+14228">maps.google.com/maps?oi=m...,+NY+14228</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>A Google satellite view consists of multiple images. To display the results, I created a 2x2 table, then inserted the relevant parts of the whole image by right-clicking the image, copying the image address, and pasting the addresses one at a time into the four table cells.<br><br><br> <br> <br> <br><br>Then I dialed the phone number 716-564-3701 - just like Utah, no one answered.<br><br>So I did a reverse White Pages search:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.anywho.com/qry/wp_rl?npa=716&telephone=5643701">www.anywho.com/qry/wp_rl?...ne=5643701</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Diebold<br>2055 Niagara Falls Blvd<br>Buffalo, NY 14228<br><br>Whaddyaknow! A listed phone with no office, just like Utah. (How did they get that into the White Pages? The phone company usually doesn't create bogus listings!)<br><br>Finally I put the phone number into Google. Guess what? Nada.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=716-564-3701&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8">www.google.com/search?cli...8&oe=utf-8</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>So to answer Joseph Cannon's question: based on a quick investigation, the Diebold "offices" in New York state are just as bogus as those in Utah. <br><br>That means it's not some renegade Diebold state manager in Utah running a scam - it's at least two state managers.<br><br>And that makes it very likely that the same is true in several states - and possibly in every single state in which Diebold claims to have "offices."<br><br>If Diebold so brazenly lies about its "offices", why should any state or county trust them to count our precious votes?????<br><br>Let's expose this Diebold scam in every state! Start here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://yellowpages.superpages.com/listings.jsp?N=diebold&R=N&PP=L&dponmap=true&STYPE=S&L=UT&MS=800">yellowpages.superpages.co...=UT&MS=800</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>then change the state to your state, and investigate one or two listings using the method above. If you have your own blog, post the results with pictures. Otherwise just post your conclusions as a comment below.<br><br>Enjoy!<br><br>Update 1: Diebold's Florida offices are at Wal-marts too!<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Source URL:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democrats.com/diebold-offices">www.democrats.com/diebold-offices</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Let's expose the Diebold scam in every state....

Postby StarmanSkye » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:14 am

I only found one listing in Oregon, listing "Banking equipment and supplies."<br><br>Diebold Incorporated - Sales<br>15100 Southwest Koll Parkway Suite N, Beaverton, OR 97006<br>phone: (503) 469-1700 <br>Specialties:<br>Sales <br>Appears in the Category:<br>Bank Equipment & Supplies <br><br>****<br>With all the indications of serious fraud, corruption, duplicity, secrecy, suspicious 'business' connections, technical problems and related issues, it's nothing short of incredible to me that there hasn't been a full-on investigation of Diebold and prosecutions of main players in what seems to be a major criminal conspiracy. How bloody typical of a 'government' in collusion with business that has abrogated ALL claims to integrity and justice. My contempt keeps growing.<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Let's expose the Diebold scam in every state....

Postby anotherdrew » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:56 am

diebold can't be happy with oregon. I was skeptical when they went to the vote-by-mail thing, but it works well. and now we have zero touch screen "voting" machines in the state, and no time/energy wasted fighting them off! The people who got us on vote-by-mail really saved us a huge battle royal, and it works so nicely... as far as I've heard at any rate. Every state should go that route, it's gotta save money and there is a paper ballot that can be refered to for recounts. <p></p><i></i>
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phreakin Diebold!

Postby firstimer » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:02 am

I dialed Oregon and got no answer. Wouldn't they have a national voicemail? I want to try the real number and see what I can find.<br><br>Isn't it great that phone phreaking flushes the bastards out. <br><br>Election Fraud makes me even madder than 9/11<br><br>I called that number<br><br>after about 20 rings you get this:<br><br>"we are experiencing difficulty completeing your call. for assistance please contact your carrier. nwk1"<br><br>nwk1 is some identifier of a certain state of a 64 channel ISDN based telephone device based on GSM technology. Probably belongs to the message server.<br><br>I'm not that much of a phreak but "c.o.m.s.a.t. multichannel pra" will get you what I got.<br><br>I'll be back<br><br>firstimer <p></p><i></i>
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Re: phreakin Diebold!

Postby anotherdrew » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:17 am

it's odd that they would have unanswered phone numbers listed. It's perfectly legal for a company to claim as little as a PO box as an "office" as far as I know. They probably need to have "operations of record" in any state that they want to start their wheeling-and-dealing games, it's likely to be a very small company in actuality, trying to look "big" <p></p><i></i>
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