Lee Harvey Oswald Witnessed the Kennedy Assassination.

by **RickTurpin** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:46 pm

<a href="http://jfk.shorturl.com">This should bury all the FALSE rumors about his involvement.</a> <a href="http://thanks.shorturl.com" target="top">And this is the historical document which proves that Hoover did not waste any time framing him.</a>

by **dbeach** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:51 pm

Highest act of TREASON is murdering the President "The President then stated he is going to take every precaution he can; that he wants to talk to me; and asked if I would put down mythoughts. He stated I was more than head of the FBI - I was his brother and personal friend; that he knew I did not want anything to happen to his family; that he has more confidence in me than anybody in town; that he would not embroil me in a jurisdictional dispute; but that he did want to have my thoughts on the matter to advocate as his ownopinion. I stated I would be glad to do this for him and that I would do anything I can. The President expressed his appreciation. Very truly yours, [signed J. E. H.] John Edgar Hoover Director" <a href="http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/09th_Issue/freemasons.html">spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/0...asons.html</a> "In his book Inside the Brotherhood, Martin Short points out, "It seems wherever Masons have common political aims, but cannot pursue them through Freemasonry, they set up parallel public movements (pg 239). Martin Short also describes how the OSS, later to become the CIA, reintroduced Freemasonry into Italy after WWII as a tool "to prop up a sickly democracy threatened by Soviet-inspired destabilization and the prospect of a communist election victory" (pg 399). From 1970 through 1981 a far right Italian Freemasonic lodge, P2, with links to Ronald Reagan, the Republican party, the CIA, British Intelligence and British Freemasonry are now believed to have been preparing for a coup against "clerico-Communists", should they seize power (pg 399-401). This lodge was disbanded when its activities became public. The P2 case is a documented modern example of a Freemasonic lodge positioned as an extra-governmental body for the execution a coup. It is therefore not implausible to suggest that the American Freemasonic lodges successfully executed a coup in the United States by assassinating President John F. Kennedy. It should be noted that Kennedy's successor, Lyndon B. Johnson was identified as a Freemason by Stephen Knight in his book, The Brotherhood, as was Warren Commission appointee, Gerald Ford. Additionally, a Masonic scholar, A. E. Roberts, identifies J. Edgar Hoover, Earl Warren and Sen. R.B. Russell (member of the Warren Commission) as Masons in his book, Freemasonry in American History. It is difficult to reliably determine if other members of the Warren Commission were also Freemasons, because no published records of membership exist. It is clear that millions of American's have taken the Masonic oaths to secrecy and obedience. These would include people in the government and the media, historical, scientific and medical professions. It is quite possible masonic elements representing many interests conferred and reached a consensus on Kennedy's fate, as occurred in the Morgan case in 1826; each knowing their discussions would be held in confidence. Their motives would probably be to protect and advance business interests and their social positions (wealth and power). These would include: Taking the presidency for Freemason Lyndon B. Johnson Protecting his control of the FBI for Freemason J. Edgar Hoover Eliminating Kennedy's softening position on communism, a threat to a wide variety of American business interests overseas Slowing the progress of the civil rights movement, an irritation to the KKK Eliminating Kennedy's challenges to the CIA's leadership; he'd fired CIA Director Allen Dulles (another Warren Commission member) and Deputy Director Charles Cabell There is also an interesting religious element, at that time Kennedy's Church, Catholicism, explicitly condemned membership in Freemasonry "under pain of excommunication". The level of hostility that Freemasons felt toward Kennedy was documented in February 1960 issue of New Age magazine, a Masonic publication, where Luther A. Smith, Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, told his readers: "whatever bigotry is in evidence in the United States is exhibited solely by the Roman Catholic hierarchy; that the Canon Law of the Roman Church and the directives of the Pope validate the fears of the people that the dual allegiance of American Catholics is a present danger to our free institutions, and lastly that the people in passing upon the qualifications of a Catholic candidate for the Presidency will be guided by their knowledge of history and their great store of plain old-fashioned common horse sense, and their innate caution not to gamble when their liberties and the national security are at stake. Among American citizens there should be no question or suspicion of allegiance to any foreign power, but in the case of the Roman Catholic citizen, his church is the guardian of his conscience and asserts that he must obey its laws and decrees even if they are in conflict with the Constitution and laws of the United States." The assassination was probably executed by CIA resources developed in the anti-Castro campaign Kennedy was canceling, and redirected against the internal threat, Kennedy. The investigation which followed the assassination was overseen and directed by Freemasons, who could influence the selection of the rest of the investigative team and effectively control the results. The Kennedy assassination appears to have been part a campaign of assassinations against a generation of leaders, who posed challenges to the entrenched power structure. The death toll included John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X. Viewed as a whole, one is driven to the conclusion that the anyone advocating or supporting serious social reforms (share the wealth and power) will not be tolerated in a leadership position. You can read The CIA's Greatest Hits by Mark Zepezauer for an overview of the assassination cases. These assassinations suggest the merger of KKK ethics with CIA resources and techniques. The CIA and modern Freemasonry can be viewed as tools, available to support US strategic interests, business interests. The CIA principally focused on influencing events overseas, Freemasonry's old-boy network used to influence domestic interests. The domestic campaign of social repression and control seems to have moved from assassinations to manipulation of the media and economic reprisals against any person or institution which pose a serious challenge to business interests or the entrenched power structure. As Americans are bombarded by the media with information on a host of social issues, largely irrelevant to the business community, a massive consolidation of wealth has occurred, labor unions crushed, social welfare programs attacked and media outlets consolidated. It is remarkable that no effective voice has been raised in opposition, until one realizes we have lost those voices. We have a new generation of "pro-business" Democrats and a history of ineffective or dishonest civil rights and union leadership. A Freemasonic conspiracy addresses all the points raised at the start of this article: It provides historical precedents It provides an existing organizational structure capable of covering-up the crime It explains the absence of internal records It provides many potential motives. The larger question, which still needs to be answered, was asked in an American Anti-Masonic pamphlet published in 1829 and holds true for today: Ought a secret society to exist amongst us whose members can commit murder and yet escape punishment? MASONS HAVE done this, and their brethren ... are sworn to protect them. Fellow citizens, are men bound by such obligations and possessing such principals, FIT to be rulers of a FREE PEOPLE." It also warned us: It is to be hoped that an institution whose very principles lead directly to such horrid outrages, and which is entirely made up of dissimulation and fraud, will be completely suppressed in this country and throughout the world, and that a barrier be instituted to prevent it from ever again polluting the earth with its insidious influence. But the public must not expect to accomplish this desirable object without unwanted pains and incessant vigilance; their task is but commencing, and, should they lack in circumspection or perseverance, the monster will yet flourish with more power and commit greater enormities than ever. "

by **mother** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:37 pm

If more people understood the enormity of them, perhaps less time would be spent in ignorant anti-religious rhetoric. My incoherent sense has me feeling the JFK killing was a masterful black magick sacrifice which cast a big spell on Americans. I knew clearly as a little girl that everthing changed after that day and has never been the same. This only becomes clearer the more one studies, and it was like a miricle to read King Kill 33 (can never remember names-J. Shelby Downing?) Also the severe condemnation by numerous popes of the secret societies as in automatic excommunication is often overlooked, as is the cheif obstacle to the goals of freemasonry has always been to destroy the Catholic Church in any way possible. Our only Catholic president, what a prize for the masons. He was born the same year as the miricles at Fatima, too , I feel somehow there's some connection that I'll never figure out.

by **zangtang** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:52 pm

j shelby downard

by **ewastud** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:09 am

I thought the testimony of Texas School Book Depository witnesses placing Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room of the buildng at the time of the shooting were pretty convincing and conclusive. True -- the witnesses saw him about 5 minutes beofre the assassination and another one just 90 seconds or less after, but it is not plausible that Oswald could have escaped from the lunch room for those brief moments to commit the crime and return almost instantaneously just to be seen by eyewitnesses. Of course, everybody else wanted to see the Kennedy motorcade pass. hence thelack of witnesses during the shooting itself. The suspected intelligence agent Oswald was apparently given instructions/orders to be in the building's lunch room to better serve as an uninvolved patsy to the crime.

by **sunny** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:19 am

Document found here- <a href="http://mccone-rowley.blogspot.com/">mccone-rowley.blogspot.com/</a> proves Oswald was CIA- sorry if this info was already posted on the board somewhere, but I find it amazing. ____________________________________________________ TO: Mr. James J. Rowley Chief, U.S. Secret Service FROM: Mr. John McCone Director, Central Intelligence Agency Subject: Central Intelligence Report on the assassination of John Kennedy. In response to the request made by your office on 24 February 1964 re: Lee Oswald's activities and assignments on behalf of this agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation, there follows a narrative summary of the internal subversive activities of the Oswald subject. I recommend that unless the Commission makes a specific request for specific information contained herein, that this information not be volunteered. This agency has reason to assume that some junior Commission staff members may be potential sources of leaks to the news media or to other agencies; due to the highly sensitive nature of the enclosed material, it would certainly be in the national interest to withhold it at this time -- unless there is, of course, a specific request made. It is my understanding that Mr. Hoover has certain sensitive information within his agency, which has be transferred to his own personal files for safekeeping; he concurs that no material should be voluntarily given to the Commission which might affect the status of field operatives or their safety. He is particularly concerned about the De Bruey memorandum, which Central Intelligence has obtained and which, I understand, you have obtained. It is imperative that this information, at least for the time, remain under wraps. Oswald subject was trained by this agency, under cover of the Office of Naval Intelligence, for Soviet assignments. During preliminary training, in 1957, subject was active in aerial reconnaissance of mainland China and maintained a security clearance up to the "confidential" level. His military records during this period are open to your agency and I have directed they be forwarded to the Commission. Subject received additional indoctrination at our own Camp Peary site from September 8 to October 17, 1958, and participated in a few relatively minor assignments until arrangements were made for his entry into the Soviet Union in September 1959. While in the Soviet Union, he was on special assignment in the area of Minsk. It would not be advantageous at this time to divulge the specifics of that assignment; however, if you wish this information, it can be made available for your personal inspection within the confines of our own offices, or I can send it by courier on the condition that it not leave the custody of the courier. I am concerned that if this information were in any way disclosed to the wrong persons, it would lead the media to erroneously claim this agency, and perhaps others, were directly involved in the Dallas action. While the persons involved were in the employ of this agency, as well as the Federal Bureau of Investigation, it is virtually impossible for this or any agency to maintain full, 24-hours-a-day responsibility over its operatives. At the time of the Dallas action, the Oswald subject was only seldom in our employ; after the Soviet assignment, we found him to be unreliable and emotionally unstable. He was of little use to us after his marriage and De Bruey, from what I understand, concurred in this. He was provided with a few unimportant infiltration assignments and proved of little or no value. It is possible that Oswald, given his instability, might have been involved in some operation involving Hoffa, as noted in SAIC Bertram's report to your agency dated 1/3/64. Mr. Hoover advises that his agency is trying to determine whether Hoffa might have been involved laterally or vertically with the Dallas assassination I have advised that I would be interested in seeing the results of that investigation. Mr. Hoover advises that the facts given in SAIC Bertran's [ed. note: "Bertram" in first usage, Bertran" here] 1/3/64 report are basically correct. His agency has advised Deputy Sweatt against any further unauthorized statements to the news media which might adversely affect the investigation. Mr. Hoover advises he has no knowledge of how Deputy Sweatt obtained his information, as there is no record of the agency distributing any such information to Sweatt or any other member of Dallas Sheriff's office. It is regrettable that this information has come to the attention of the news media, but I am sure Mr. Hoover will be able to clarify the situation. Speculation within this agency -- and this is only speculation at this point -- is that Oswald subject became unstable following surgery April 1, 1961, in the Minsk Hospital. He may have been chemically or electronically "controlled"... a sleeper agent. Subject spent eleven days hospitalized for a "minor ailment" which should have required no more than three days hospitalization at the most. Six days after his release, he met Marina Prusakova. This agency is particularly interested in her intelligence background and I have requested a report on same from our Soviet Embassy contact. After his return to the U.S., Oswald worked in New Orleans through the Anti-Communist League of the Caribbean and Friends of Democratic Cuba; his case officer was SAIC Guy Bannister from the Chicago F131 office. He was transferred from his assignments there after he was arrested and fined stemming from an incident of his distribution of pamphlets for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. While our files here show no flirther assignments or contact, I am requesting an (xx) check on the subject from our New Orleans and Ft. Worth offices. Please direct any further communication on this matter to my personal attention so that your requests may be expedited, or feel free to call me anytime. My office is always available to you. /s/ John McCone

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by **dbeach** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:25 pm

mo atta scapegoat cept mo mo is most likley stiil alive lee played with the big boys and got used all up.. "In response to the request made by your office on 24 February 1964 re: Lee Oswald's activities and assignments on behalf of this agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation, there follows a narrative summary of the internal subversive activities of the Oswald subject"

by **dbeach** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:30 pm

Richard Kerry was most likey another CIA operative who used his own in-laws to house the Oswalds. This is part of the game..help the criminals ...get the rewards BUT subject your self to their blackmail.... The JF Kerry performance of 11/02/04 showed him for what he truly is a S.& B. loyalist and a bush kissin coffin cousin "The Forbes family of China and Boston, of which US Senator John Forbes Kerry and John Murray Forbes are members, amassed a huge fortune in the China trade, initially trading North American furs and manufactured goods for tea and other goods from China. Forbes also made a considerable fortune smuggling opium during the Opium Wars. The British wanted to keep a monopoly on supplying the Chinese with opium grown in India. However, during the Opium Wars the British ships were prevented from delivering their cargoes of opium and American ship owners such as Forbes, who could sail the final miles, made great amounts of money delivering the cargoes for the British. Forbes family members later engaged in other merchant banking and railroad investment projects around the world. Born in France, John Murray Forbes entered the China trade at the behest of his Perkins uncles, and after his brother Tom Forbes died, and thereafter John Murray Forbes was mentored by the Chinese merchant Houqua who considered Forbes to be like a son. Following John Murray Forbes into China were several brothers and cousins, including Francis Blackwell Forbes, the great grandfather of John Forbes Kerry. The Forbes family lived and traded in China at first due to a family connection with the Perkins family. Later, some of the Forbes family sold their China trading interests to the Russell and Company, a shipping empire which was headed by Robert Bennett Forbes, and was later associated with Yale's development and endowment. Yale's Skull and Bones society was founded by William H. Russell, one of the members of the wealthy Russell family, in 1832. The Dictionary of American Biography reports that the noted American ship captain Robert Bennet Forbes played "a prominent role in the outbreak of the Chinese Opium War." Several of the Forbes family cashed out of their dealings in China after the Opium War, and reinvested in Europe and the United States. Some of the population growth of Chicago and Midwestern Plains states in the middle to late 19th century was due to John Murray Forbes' railroad projects in Michigan and Chicago. The Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Co., from Chicago west to the Pacific was built by John Murray Forbes who had perhaps a reputation for sound financial management amongst the railroad tycoons of the day. In 1879, William Forbes, son of John Murray Forbes, risked the fortune to financially back Alexander Graham Bell's telephone company, and become president of the company, a risk which paid off. William Cameron Forbes used his wealth to become Governor General of the Philippines. His niece Ruth Forbes Paine Young tapped her Forbes family inheritance to finance the International Peace Academy. Her husband invented the Bell Helicopter used in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. In a tiny footnote to history, Ruth Forbes Paine Young's son, Michael R. Paine, and his wife Ruth Paine, allowed Maria Oswald, the wife of Lee Harvey Oswald, to live in their house as a family friend, and Oswald's rifle was stored for a time in the Paine's family garage." <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_family">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_family</a>

by **pferdricks** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:50 pm

my 2 cents - it really is Billy Loveday in the doorway. the McCone-Rawley memo is a fake.

by **legallyblondeII** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:28 pm

it's lovelady Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=legallyblondeii>legallyblondeII</A> at: 12/20/05 3:28 pm

by **sunny** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:49 pm

I would be interested to know who faked this memo and why. Got a link?

by **legallyblondeII** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:17 pm

<a href="http://jfk.shorturl.com">This is an interesting link.</a>

Lee Harvey Oswald Witnessed the Kennedy Assassination.

Lee Harvey Oswald Witnessed the Kennedy Assassination.

oh the connections of the wicked

masons, masons, masons

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Oswald in 2nd floor lunch room at time of shooting

Oswald was CIA- here is the proof

Re: Oswald was CIA- here is the proof

lee harvey scapegoat

Richard Kerry connected to lee harvey scapegoat

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