FLA Plane crash of 12/19/05

by **Dreams End** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:08 pm

dbeach: This sort of thing is not really evidence, as numbers can be interpreted in so many ways: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Since '11' can be rightly thought of as the New World Order Number, this double '11' is most shocking. It seems to confirm the complicity of both Bush Presidents and their CFR advisors,<hr></blockquote> However the Danguillecourt find is excellent. Could just be that this guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I do think that if there is some funny business here, this guy would be the heart of it. The fact that it WAS an explosion may have even been meant to send a message to others who were turning traitor to the cause or got caught with their hands in the cookie jar or whatever D.'s crimes might have been. I also think that with the most recent post by Jeff, the leaks are starting to come fast and furious. (When freaking COUNTERPUNCH publishes stuff supporting 9/11 conspiracy, it's surely about to hit mainstream.) Perhaps those who propped up Bush and company are now setting them adrift (sure seems that way.) In which case, this plane explosion might have been some loose ends being tied up...sort of like shredding confidential documents (to use a pretty horrifiying analogy.)

by **Nonny** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:13 pm

Stuart man, two family members die in Miami plane crash By MEGAN KENNY megan.kenny@scripps.com December 20, 2005 STUART — Eric Johansen of Stuart, his father, Larry Johansen, and his father-in-law Marlin Nachtigal had planned to leave Monday for a three-day fishing and scuba trip in the Bahamas and return to Stuart for Christmas. All three men died Monday afternoon when the plane, a Chalk's Ocean Airways seaplane, crashed off the Port of Miami. While they were originally scheduled to fly out of Fort Lauderdale, they were diverted to Miami for some reason, said Steve Hume, a family friend. "They go fishing all the time," Hume said. Johansen's wife, Lisa, who is eight-months pregnant with a baby girl due in February, stayed behind with the couple's 16-month-old daughter, Jessica. Hume said Johansen had a close relationship with Jessica. He said she's a great little girl. "It's been rough," Hume said. On Tuesday, at the Johansen home in Rainbow Cove in Stuart, cars crowded the driveway. Other family had arrived with Nachtigal from California, Lisa Johansen's home state, to celebrate the holiday. Johansen grew up in Palm Beach Gardens. He was a textbook sales representative for McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin. <a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ioaQw202An8J:www.tcpalm.com/tcp/local_news/article/0,,TCP_16736_4329459,00.html+Marlin+Nachtigal&hl=en" target="top">64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ioaQw202An8J:www.tcpalm.com/tcp/local_news/article/0,,TCP_16736_4329459,00.html+Marlin+Nachtigal&hl=en</a> ________________________ Marlin Nachtigal's name was misspelled in article above. Sergio Danguillecourt is age 42 -- not 20 Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nonny@rigorousintuition>Nonny</A> at: 12/21/05 6:22 pm

by **dbeach** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:50 pm

"This sort of thing is not really evidence, as numbers can be interpreted in so many ways:" I did not say anything is evidence NEVER said it!

by **dbeach** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:57 pm

"However the Danguillecourt find is excellent. Could just be that this guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I do think that if there is some funny business here, this guy would be the heart of it. The fact that it WAS an explosion may have even been meant to send a message to others who were turning traitor to the cause or got caught with their hands in the cookie jar or whatever D.'s crimes might have been. " FUNNY BUSINESS = BUSHNESS BUSINESS I AGREE! <a href="http://www.september11news.com/DailyTimelineNov.htm">www.september11news.com/D...ineNov.htm</a> Another coincidence was 11/12 /01 which killed 260 and the media screamed it was not terrist attack but mechanical error JFK jr plane crah was pilot error lotsa errors "Nov. 11: Leaders of several countries join U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan and President George W. Bush for a memorial service honoring countries who had casualties in the WTC attacks. The two month anniversary of the September 11 attacks falls on a day most of the western world remembers their war veterans (U.S. - Veterans Day, Canada/UK - Remembrance Day). Despite the U.S. advising the Northern Alliance not to attack Kabul, Alliance forces continue to make advances in Northern Afghanistan, and move towards the capital city. Taliban militiamen ambush an Alliance convoy killing three journalists. View Ground Zero on Nov. 11th. Bush & Annan WTC Nov. 12: American Airlines Flight 587 flying from NYC's Kennedy Airport to the Dominican Republic crashes into a residential neighborhood in Queens, N.Y., only minutes after takeoff. All 260 passengers and crew are killed, and six people on the ground are missing. Flight 587 left the airport at 9:14 A.M., over 70 minutes late. The early indications lead NTSB investigators to announce the likely cause was mechanical failure, and not another act of airline terrorism. Eyewitnesses say that the engines and other plane parts appeared to have exploded and then fell off prior to the crash. The engines are found blocks from the main crash site, and the tail section is retrieved from the waters in Jamaican Bay. President Bush tells the American people, "New York people have suffered mightily, they suffer again, but there is no doubt in my mind that New Yorkers are resilient and strong and courageous people and will help their neighbors overcome this recent incident." When NY Mayor Giuliani heard of the plane crash he said, "Oh, my God. We are just being tested one more time and we are going to pass this test too." Ironically the plane crashes into a neighborhood where many firefighters and policemen lived, and who were involved in the September 11th WTC rescue efforts. The community where Flight 587 crashed had already lost over 70 people in the WTC attack weeks before. Taliban forces unexpectedly desert the capital of Kabul at dawn, after a series of stunning military victories by opposition forces in the north over the past several days. Residents of Kabul were seen shouting and cheering as the Taliban departed in columns and vehicle convoys heading south. Images of western soldiers were seen with Alliance fighters on the Kabul front lines. The Alliance now claim control of over 50 per cent of Afghanistan. Reports indicate that up to 600 Taliban supporters were executed after the Alliance takeover of Mazar-e-Sharif. The U.S. and the United Nations speed up the efforts to form a new government in Afghanistan. "

by **StarmanSkye** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:45 am

WoW! Great find, Sunny, via Ospina's book on Bacardi's hidden role in supporting and fomenting anti-Cuban and Latin American terrorism -- apparently working closely with the CIA and State Dept. cutouts and 'other' shadowy black ops and agents of influence and semi-official political-corporate crime syndicates. MMMmmm... Shouldn't somebody mebbe like inform the FBI or somebody -- so the Hooverite G-Men can do something practical and REAL, actually important, investigating political corruption and corporate sanction for terrorism and violence, instead of spending immense resources on behalf of a paranoid police-state PTB by infiltrating PETA and Christian Peacemakers and Greenpeace and the ACLU and other progressive reform-minded decent American activists trying to increase the public's consciousness about peace and justice issues? (Ironic cynical sarcasm, dontcha know!) I might just become a rum-drinker so I can more 'meaningfully' boycott Bacardi. Thanks for the heads-UP! Starman More info: <a href="http://www.ratb.org.uk/frfi/160_bacardi.html">www.ratb.org.uk/frfi/160_bacardi.html</a> Bacardi: Secret Agent of US Imperialism --excerpt-- Far more sinister than its commercial operations is Bacardi's political role. The company has been involved in sponsoring anti-Cuba terrorism since 1962, when one of its directors, Pepin Bosch became actively involved in preparing the Bay of Pigs invasion. He had the idea of setting up an organisation of Cuban exiles, giving birth to the Cuban Representatives in Exile (CRE) in 1964 with its headquarters in Miami. The following year, Bacardi moved the headquarters of its US operations from New York to Miami as well. CRE was financed by the CIA from 1964 and through it sought to organise the assassination of Cuban leaders such as Raúl and Fidel Castro, and Che Guevara. This activity was supported by Bacardi, a fact that was revealed when CIA documents were made public in 1975. It was at this time that Bacardi established relations with the extreme right-wing republican senator Jesse Helms. CRE was active in supporting counter-revolution in Latin America, presenting a 'Freedom Medal' to General Pinochet following the bloody coup in Chile in 1973. Later it gave public support to the assassination of Orlando Letelier, a leading Pinochet opponent, whose car was blown up in Washington in 1976. Following Reagan's election in 1980, the US National Security Council helped Bacardi to set up the Cuban-American National Foundation (CANF). One of Bacardi's shareholders, Clara Maria del Valle, whose father was involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion, is a CANF vice-president and worked closely with Luis Zuniga, who was detained as a spy in Cuba in 1974. Ms del Valle issued a letter in 1997 supporting a terrorist bombing campaign in Cuba which killed an Italian tourist and injured others. The letter was also signed by Ignacio Sanchez, a CANF fellow director and senior lawyer to Bacardi who is credited with drafting the Helms-Burton Law. CANF was set up with the objectives of supporting the Contras in Nicaragua and supporting UNITA in Angola, as well as destabilising the government of Cuba. CANF worked closely with the likes of CIA Director William Casey, and NSC advisors Richard Allen and Robert MacFarlane. Many CANF directors are ex-CIA, whilst many of Bacardi family shareholders are founder-members or associates. CANF council members include senior representatives of the Bacardi clan such as Manuel J Cutillas, Jose Bacardi, Clare Maria del Valle, Lourdes Abascal Quirch and Gerardo Abascal. Essentially, CANF was an alliance between Bacardi and the CIA; it was completely bound up with the Iran-Contragate affair where drugs money was laundered to finance counter-revolutionary activities in Central America. Ospina shows how Bacardi has served as a conduit for funds from the CIA to mercenaries in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Angola as well as to Cuban counter-revolutionaries. Richard Allen served on the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee. Israel was a principal supplier of arms to the counter-revolutionary forces in Central America during this time. This network explains how an insignificant number of Cuban exiles in Miami have had such political influence within the US. Bacardi's shadowy commercial and political interests have led it to become one of the key forces on the right-wing of US politics. It has used its power to ensure the US maintains the illegal blockade against Cuba. Correspondence set out in the annexes of Ospina's book show CANF member and former CIA operative Mas Canosa writing to Bacardi directors saying that CANF will not stop at anything including bloodshed in its campaign against Cuba. Mention has been made of Bacardi's role in drafting the Helms-Burton law: so naked was its influence that the legislation was dubbed the Helms-Bacardi law. Bacardi was not alone however in its sponsorship of the legislation: other multi-nationals included Chiquita Brands, Ford, Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola, Colgate-Palmolive, General Motors and Chrysler, all of which have claims against Cuba for its nationalisation programme. The whole history of Bacardi and CANF shows how the state will use private companies to support terrorist activities and that multinationals are not just entities with commercial interests, but political ones as well. Bacardi may not be a US firm, but it controls US legislators, creates US legislation to defend its interests and promotes US terrorist activities. It is a major force in ensuring that the US blockade remains in place. Ospina's book shows how important it is for us to continue the campaign to boycott Bacardi. Hopefully there will soon be an English translation. Silvia Tereu **** Bacardi: Secret agent of US imperialism Fight Racism! Fight ... Far more sinister than its commercial operations is Bacardi's political role. The company has been involved in sponsoring anti-Cuba terrorism since 1962, ... www.ratb.org.uk/frfi/160_bacardi.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages Rock around the Blockade online Free the Miami 5! Boycott Bacardi - corporate sponsors of terrorism against the Cuban people! ... Boycott Bacardi, corporate vampire and enemy of Cuba! ... www.ratb.org.uk/ - 34k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.ratb.org.uk ] Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Bacardi accused of campaign ... 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Bacardi also helps fund the Miami-based, exile terrorist organisation the ... www.cpa.org.au/garchve1/982bac.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages ZNet | Foreign Policy | Friends Of Terrorism Bacardi has an enormous financial stake in the overthrow of Castro, ... a safe haven is given to a man happy to promote terrorism against Cuba. ... www.zmag.org/content/ForeignPolicy/ campbell_friend_of_terrorism.cfm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages Friends of Terrorism ... terrorist attack in Miami on a Polish merchant vessel bound for Cuba and jailed ... Bacardi has an enormous financial stake in the overthrow of Castro, ... www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/ print.cgi?file=/views02/0208-09.htm - 10k - Cached - Similar pages

FLA Plane crash of 12/19/05

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