FLA Plane crash of 12/19/05

by **dbeach** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:01 pm

hmmm strange dates 1219..has 9/11 combination just a coincidence <a href="http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051220/NEWS06/512200410/1012">www.indystar.com/apps/pbc...00410/1012</a> All 20 aboard are killed in Florida plane crash Associated Press "MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -- A seaplane crashed Monday just off Miami Beach within sight of the city's high-rises, killing all 20 people aboard. Witnesses said the aircraft exploded in flames as it came down, and the FBI joined the investigation. Scuba divers and rescuers in speedboats struggled to reach the victims, but as evening fell, they found no sign that anyone survived. The Chalk's Ocean Airways plane -- a twin-engine Grumman G-73T Turbine Mallard -- went down about 2:30 p.m. after taking off from Miami for the island of Bimini in the Bahamas, the Federal Aviation Administration said. It hit the water within sight of the beach. The Coast Guard said 19 bodies were found. The 1940s-era plane was carrying two crew members and 18 passengers, including three infants, authorities said. Because of the witness reports of an explosion, the FBI sent agents to assist in the investigation. There was no immediate indication of terrorism or sabotage, said Judy Orihuela, spokeswoman for the FBI's Miami field office. "It's too soon to say whether we are going to get involved," Orihuela said. "We're just going to check it out.""

by **Col Quisp** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:06 pm

dbeach, didn't you have a dream recently about a plane crash?

by **dbeach** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:02 pm

No that was ole dream from the actual morning of 9/11 before the event happened. I did however have a dream of military planes attacking the USA but it was a mock drill in my dream... The date of this crash are scary 1219 Was the jordon attack on 11/09/05? another 9/11 combination...

by **professorpan** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:06 pm

I think you're reaaaaally stretching, dbeach. Planes crash. Shit happens.

by **dbeach** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:49 pm

9/11/01 3000 dead 3/11/04 ? 7/7/05? 11/09/05 Amman Jordon 56 dead 12/19/05 I see the number 11 and multiples of 11 also the combination of 911 in different sequences You say stretch... I say its a strange coincidence of numbers and the possibilities of random numbers occurring like this is ? low ? medium ? high? but sir we rarely agree on anything...

by **Dreams End** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:15 pm

Well, the possibility of the month being 11 is 1/12. the possibility of the day matching the month numerically is also 1 in 12. the possibility of the day being the 11th is also 1/12. So, that's about a 25 % chance (minus some overlapping possibilities) of a date involving such numbers occuring. But you should also add in the occasional times when a nine and two ones show up in the date, such as 11/9 or 12/19 or 1/19. I think a more interesting question about the plane crash is who was on that plane. yet to see details about the passengers.

by **sunny** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:20 pm

So true DE. Always suspicious when a small plane crashes (just warned Rep. Conyers on huffpo to stay off of them)and have waited in vain since it happened to find out who was ont it.

by **rapt** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:29 pm

Small planes crash fairly often. But how many of them are blown out of the air? You have good reason to be suspicious Sunny.

by **Dreams End** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:53 pm

That may even be a reason NOT to be suspicious. They are pretty good at rigging them to go down without such theatrics. Assuming, that is, that JFK Jr., Wellstone, and (sorry forgot his name) the guy who had the evidence in the Franklin case are what we imagine them to be. Still, what besides bombs causes airplanes to explode? Have to be something in the fuel tanks, I guess. I'll be interested to see who turns up missing.

by **dbeach** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:57 pm

11/22/63 combinations of 11 and 9 as in 6 plus 3 = 9 so is 01/19/06 gonna be another event???

by **sunny** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:05 pm

This story proves what trained seals the msm are. Despite the fact that every witness they interviewed stated that there was an explosion on the plane, the "reporters" steadfastly refused to mention it in their reports for many hours, and the tag lines didn't change from "crashes" to "explodes" at any time.They weren't going to mention any explosion just in case the PTB had something to hide! In addition, they slandered the witnesses to TWA flight 800, ie missiles, practically saying they were crazy ( aviation experts on situation room) Which proves they can be as theatrical as they wanna be- they can count on msm to pooh-pooh and cover up anything.

by **dbeach** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:21 pm

<a href="http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1541.cfm">www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1541.cfm</a> "Title: SEPTEMBER 11, 1990 --PRESIDENT BUSH [SENIOR] PRESENTS SPEECH TO CONGRESS, "TOWARD A NEW WORLD ORDER" Resources to aid your Understanding SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 -- MIGHTY BLOW STRUCK TO BRING ABOUT NEW WORLD ORDER -- PRECISELY 11 YEARS LATER TO THE DAY! BUSH [JUNIOR] PRESIDENT. Subtitle:Since '11' can be rightly thought of as the New World Order Number, this double '11' is most shocking. It seems to confirm the complicity of both Bush Presidents and their CFR advisors, in this most shocking of terrorist attacks. The number '11' simply surrounds this attack and for very good additional reason: it is a primary number in Mind Control. The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what this New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!! Learn how to protect yourself, your loved ones! Stand by for insights so startling you will never look at the news the same way again. YOU ARE NOW ON THE CUTTING EDGE "NEWS BRIEF: "Infamous Quote from George Herbert Walker Bush", September 11, 1990, President George Bush speaking to U.S. Congress, Joint Session, telemange.ca, <a href="http://centre.telemanage.ca/quotes.nsf/2b27ef985647bda38525687b0025daee/013568bbd0bc6df68525687a007b2cc0?OpenDocument">centre.telemanage.ca/quot...enDocument</a> ""[The war in Iraq is] a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times...a new world order can emerge." Another of President Bush's infamous quotes also came from this Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, when he said in August, 1990, that "this invasion shall not stand, because it threatens the New World Order." Once the Senior Bush introduced this term to the general public, everyone started using it. Dan Quayle appeared on a great many television programs, explaining this term and telling everyone what a wonderful concept it was. British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and Gorbachev suddenly began using this term, a formerly very hidden term reserved only for the readers of select occult material. I find it highly interesting that, precisely 11 years to the day after President Bush delivered this speech praising the New World Order, and declaring it to be an inevitable fact, a mighty blow was struck to move the world finally into this global world system. The New World Order was begun by Senior Bush and may be finalized by the Junior Bush. The Kingdom of Antichrist [the New World Order] thus occurred between the Bush's! That is quite a legacy for the Skull and Bones Society, is it not?"

by **sunny** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:28 am

hmmm, ------------------------------------------------------------ One of the victims, Sergio Danguillecourt, was a member of the board of directors of Bacardi Ltd. and a great-great-grandson of the rum distiller's co-founder, Don Facundo Bacardi, the company said. The rest is here-<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051220/ap_on_re_us/plane_crash;_ylt=ArA0xTawCplm9jOWErOc9Vqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051...NlYwN0bQ--</a> And- ------------------------------------------------------------ Well-structured and very informative, Ospina's book exposes completely the absolutely central role that the Bacardi company plays in organising and financing Cuban counter-revolutionaries. At the end of it, one understands that without Bacardi, there would be no Cuban-American National Foundation and none of the utterly reactionary Miami-based Cuban exile movements that have so influenced US politics over the past decades. Not only does the book expose Bacardi's pivotal role in the opposition to Cuban socialism, it also shows how the company collaborated with the CIA to support counter-revolutionaries throughout Central America. The paradox is that for decades Bacardi has wielded enormous political influence with successive occupants of the White House, yet it is not even a US-owned company! ~snip~ Bacardi's shadowy commercial and political interests have led it to become one of the key forces on the right-wing of US politics. It has used its power to ensure the US maintains the illegal blockade against Cuba. Correspondence set out in the annexes of Ospina's book show CANF member and former CIA operative Mas Canosa writing to Bacardi directors saying that CANF will not stop at anything including bloodshed in its campaign against Cuba. ~snip~ More here-<a href="http://www.rcgfrfi.easynet.co.uk/ratb/boycott/osp_rev.htm">www.rcgfrfi.easynet.co.uk...sp_rev.htm</a> and here-<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/15/1029113984623.html">www.smh.com.au/articles/2...84623.html</a> ------------------------------------------------------------ Well, what could this mean? Did Danguillecourt somehow stray off the right-wing reservation?

by **dbeach** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:02 pm

"Did Danguillecourt somehow stray off the right-wing reservation?' and ticked off jeb or poppy o

by **Nonny** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:59 pm

Officials have confirmed that 11 Biminites and one American who had moved to the island were aboard the 58-year-old aircraft that crashed only moments after taking off. <a href="http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=6630" target="top">www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=6630</a> 1. Sabrina Dean -- wife 2. Barto Dean -- husband 3. Sabrea Dean -- infant daughter 4. Jacquelyn Stuart -- Jackie Stuart-Levarity and her daughter were also on board. 5. Nyesha Fox (mother and 15-year-old daughter) 6. Don Smith -- a dock master who had worked at the Bimini Big Game Resort & Marina for many years. He was traveling with his one year-old grandson. The part-time barber, who was also affectionately known as "Daddy Don," had just attended his daughter’s graduation from Florida State University. 7. Jervis Stuart Don & Jervis (grandfather and grandson) 8. Genevieve Ellis -- mid-60s and recently retired after working nearly three decades as a janitor at a junior school. 9. Salome Rolle -- Genevieve & Salome are sisters 10. Sophia Hinsley-Sherman -- mother 11. Bethany Hinsley-Sherman -- baby daughter Sophia Hinsley-Sherman, and her daughter, Bethany, who took the last available seat after a man offered it to them. Who was this man - and why did he not board the aircraft? <a href="http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/home.htm" target="top">www.homelandsecurityus.com/home.htm</a> 12. Sergio Danguillecourt -- tourist 13. Jackie Danquillecourt -- tourist (husband and wife, couple in their 20’s) 14. Eric Johanes -- tourist 15. Lawrence Johanes -- tourist 16. Marlin Nochtigal -- tourist 17. Richard Rutecky -- tourist 18. Carolyn Burke -- tourist 19. Michelle Marks -- pilot 20. Paul Desantos -- co-pilot Two crew and 18 passengers were on the flight to Bimini in the Bahamas. Many of the victims were returning home to the island after Christmas shopping trips. Although the identities of the passengers have yet to be released, the Northeast Intelligence Network has received information that Bahamian government officials might have been aboard the aircraft. It is also noteworthy to point out that according to Dale Karlen, the federal security director at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, Chalk's is a small air carrier that is not required to conduct federal security screening of passengers and their luggage. <a href="http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/home.htm" target="top">www.homelandsecurityus.com/home.htm</a> Passengers boarded the flight at Fort Lauderdale/ Hollywood International Airport and stopped off at Watson Island in Miami, while on route for Bimini. The crash happened at Government Cut-a channel that cruise lines take past South Beach into the Port of Miami at about 2.30 p.m. Residents from Bimini were reportedly heading home after completing Christmas shopping. That doomed flight was supposed to drop that group of passengers off and return to Miami to collect a second group, sources from Bimini revealed. <a href="http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/8371405912683.php" target="top">www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/8371405912683.php</a>

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