Alex Jones: Proof of LBJ's guilt in JFK murder

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Re: who

Postby FourthBase » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:30 pm

I doubt that the depletion allowance was the only reason why those two particular oil tycoons would want JFK dead. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby Dreams End » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:41 pm

I know why LBJ might want him dead but it was a wide conspiracy. Had to be other motives. <p></p><i></i>
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Ruby?

Postby km artlu » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:55 pm

One mysterious factor has always nagged me. What could possibly have persuaded Jack Ruby to do what he did? Does anyone have a clue?<br><br>It is, I suppose, conceivable that he adhered to the lesser horn of a dilemma forced upon him. A threat to his family or a loved one. Doesn't seem like the kind of guy on whom that would have worked though.<br><br>Maybe assurances that judges were fixed, an insanity plea could be copped, and in a few years he'd be a free man with rewards awaiting him? But he was as street-wise and pragmatic, and presumably Machiavellian, as it gets. Hard to believe he'd have bought that.<br><br>Jeff linked to something on the Video Only thread which ends with Ruby answering "yes" to a question from off-camera. I can't hear what the question was. Can anyone here supply that for me? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby sunny » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:55 pm

For some time, I have looked at the murder as the result of a perfect storm comprised of many evil men sowing evil plans colliding with a man who not only had the brains to understand what was going on, but the guts and gall to actually try and stop them.<br><br>People like Johnson probably didn't have a hand in either instigating or planning the murder, but were apprised of it because he was perceived, rightly, as a like-minded individual. EHH was an operative sent to do a job (see Plausable Denial by Mark Lane) who no doubt both agreed with and took pleasure in the plot.<br><br>We will never know <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>exactly</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> who instigated the plot and who had ultimate authority in executing it, tho we can certainly make some educated guesses that I suspect would not be far from the mark. Men on that level would never implicate themselves and would not hesitate to kill those who would. They gained too much from the death of Kennedy, as we see in the Cabal in power today. Not only would they not risk their ill-gotten gains to salve a non-existant conscience, none of them see the direction the country has taken since the murder as a bad thing. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:01 am

And the chick could have been pressured or bribed, to give "her version" of what happened. Or, she may have done it to get back at his family. Afterall, didn't she do it AFTER LBJ had died? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby FourthBase » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:14 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Jeff linked to something on the Video Only thread which ends with Ruby answering "yes" to a question from off-camera. I can't hear what the question was. Can anyone here supply that for me?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I linked to it.<br><br>"Are these people in very high positions, Jack?"<br><br>"<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Yes</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->."<br><br>It's the way he says yes that is utterly convincing to me.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zd4r4O0o_Y">www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zd4r4O0o_Y</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 8/30/06 10:15 pm<br></i>
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Re: who

Postby NewKid » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:19 am

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oJleQf6nT0&mode=related&search=" target="top">Mister X</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTuLc0AdGI&mode=related&search=" target="top">Explains All</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>"Like Caesar . . ." <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 8/30/06 10:20 pm<br></i>
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Re: who

Postby FourthBase » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:31 am

"Fundamentally people are suckers for the truth...<br>And the truth is on your side, Bubba."<br><br>I love it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby NewKid » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:40 am

Sutherland's acting there is just fuckin' awesome. <p></p><i></i>
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"Yes"

Postby km artlu » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:03 am

Thank you so much, FB. For that video link (duh) and for clarifying the question.<br><br>I fully agree about the conviction in his voice and demeanor. It's those qualities, his general savvy vibe, his other statement...something about a whole new kind of government coming, that provoke such curiosity for me.<br><br>What could make a guy like him do something with such obvious consequence to himself? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby rocco33 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:24 am

Have any of you seen Robert Gaylon Ross's interview with Freeman? It's worth checking out. He gets into this whole deal. Nixon, Bush, and Johnson all knew. He quotes Lyndon Johnson's ex mistress, who was there. You can check it out here...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4614236626110936662">Gaylon Ross Interview</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby FourthBase » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:43 am

Ehhhh...the first half is all about "Jews". 'Sup wit dat? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who

Postby Sweejak » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:15 pm

Mister X, yeah I think Oliver Stone hit that dead on. Nice pan out as the shot includes the obelisk... I mean the Washington Monument. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: who - only everyone with power wanted JFK dead

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:55 pm

I think the movie 'Murder on the Orient Express' illustrates the situation well. (...on the 'Vietnam Express'?)<br><br>Remember? Everyone on the train hated the victim and thought they had stabbed him in his sleep. But the question of who did it first was left hanging. So many with the same motive and opportunity coalescing in one place.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The autonomous foreign policy CIA wanted him dead</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, especially the Old Boys led by Allen Dulles.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Mafia wanted him dead</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for letting RFK take a bite outta their crime unlike the lapdog Hoover.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hoover probably wanted him dead</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for letting RFK show him up.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Cuban exiles wanted him dead</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for the Bay of Pigs non-support.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Council on Foreign Relations wanted him dead</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for rolling back price gouging and other economic policies like printing up money instead of getting it from the Federal Reserve.<br><br>And then there's LBJ at the center of these gangs whose little Texas fiefdom is getting roadblocked and he's even on the way to dire legal straits.<br><br>But the highest levels of CIA and Secret Service are involved due to the changing of the motorcade route, the stand-down of security according to L. Fletcher Prouty, and the cover-up of bogus photos, films, autopsy photos and x-rays, murdered witnesses, media campaigns of disinfo for years, etc.<br><br>And Ruby almost said as much right out loud. <p></p><i></i>
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A question for those who believe Johnson did it:

Postby Jill Burdigala » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:30 pm

Please understand that I'm not being argumentative or hostile, nor am I issuing any kind of challenge. I am honestly interested in hearing what you think about this:<br><br>Let me start by admitting that I really know very little about Johnson, and I am unable to determine if the little I have heard is really true. What I have most often heard is that he was a sublimely political being: someone utterly committed to power and ambition, who was happy enough if he could get what he wanted with a smile and a pat on the back, but failing that would just as willingly break your arm; yet at the same time someone who was well aware of what was <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>realistic</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>possible</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, and would not break arms merely for the sheer pleasure of doing so.<br><br>Anyway, my question is, how do you interpret Johnson's decision not to run in 1968 in light of his culpability in the Kennedy assassination? Was the killing of Kennedy simply an affair of revenge or honor that had nothing to do with Johnson's motivations in 1968? Or, at the risk of sounding like I'm baiting the waters, is there a more sinister reason? To me at least, his decision in 1968 appears to rule out the usual motive of usurpers to seize power for its own sake and hang onto it until it is pried from their cold dead fingers. <p></p><i></i>
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