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Farewell America

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:08 pm
by KFJ
Have you read this book? <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jfk-online.com/farewell00.html">www.jfk-online.com/farewell00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It's a real eye opener. It explains a lot. <p></p><i></i>

Thanks, KFJ,

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:22 pm
by Peachtree Pam
for the link, I have always wanted to read that book. <p></p><i></i>

Gee

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:35 pm
by Just check this pout
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Has anybody else read this book?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:11 pm
by Say Tan
I think it's a good idea to read this book because it really clears explains a lot. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Farewell America

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:37 pm
by israelirealities
Is this the book online ? titles of chapters seem interesting, but perhaps somewhat apocalyptic as well. Ethical gangrene, in and of itself, rarely causes the collapse of evil regimes, unfortunately. One has to be religious to believe otherwise. Usually, it is complacency, exaggerations and inner conflicts which bring those regimes down. Its a combination of a normal process of power-decay and some luck as well. Sometimes I feel that holding on to the expectation of political justice is taking a lot of energy from me. I have seen such evil regime in my country, some structures seem to be lasting forever although one would presume that even a retarded and deaf God/force of nature would already annihilate them....<br>Tyrannies always fall, that is the consolation, its a rule of nature. But it may challenge one's faith and try patience, and then when you think its over, you get a new problem of the same but slightly different form elsewhere. <br>I dont' see Katrina as the end of the USA, even of the neo-cons...but it may just kick Bush out, which is also nice. The democrats are not much better, but even the minor bias towards human rights and better distribution of wealth, is going to be comforting for a while.<br>Beside the point - my memories now from meetings and talks with Afro Americans when I lived there. It is very frustrating to see people who actually condone the "system" that leads to their discimination and abuse. Only the ones who happened to reside outside the USA for some time, have changed their perspective. But they are few and usually middle class without the drive to lead revolutions. I lived in LA during the "riots" of Rodney King...(anyone remembers that ?). For a non American this was my "initiation" into the real America. It was a battlefield and the enemy was the blacks...however, soon after - they went back to life without getting any meaningful achievements. The pictures from Luisiana reminded me of South LA...its third world. But the people there just gave up on their basic human rights and dignities. they think the world is the USA, and there is nothing better or different possible. Whereas they could lead the global struggle for justice, they cop out and harness themselves to US empire-interests. (even Jesse Jackson, to some extent is missing his opportunities worldwide in favor of local patriotism). <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

farewell

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:20 pm
by mother
KFJ, incredibly thoughtful of you! Can't wait to finish it! <p></p><i></i>

Hope you have your passports!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:01 pm
by KFJ
What I found so interesting about this book is the light it casts on the current regime and the lengths they will go too and the total disregard they show for anything and anybody. Reality is truly much scarier than fantasy and you don't even need a tin foil hat!<br>P.S. I fear for the republic, it could be finished. <p></p><i></i>

woodrow wilson quote

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:09 pm
by dis
<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:century gothic;font-size:medium;">tyrannies fall, you say<br><br>'people tolerate a dictator for 30 years, but if a messiah doesnt deliver in 3 years, they string him up' - woodrow wilson - sad but true - franco<br><br>people are so unhappy, they feel anger at anyone trying to help them - as soon as they get their first glimpse of a better world, they feel the contrast with the present reality so painfully that they react with anger</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>

What the ?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:47 pm
by Say Tan
Can anybody explain what this last post by "dis" is supposed to reference? I bet it's Karl Rove. No. He's busy. (HeHe) THEY are watching boards like this and will try to confuse and disinformation us as best they can. There's a remote chance people will wake up and we can put these losers on the run! Let's do it! <p></p><i></i>

dis reply to israelirealities

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:43 am
by dis
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Thanks "dis".

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:59 pm
by Say Tan
? <p></p><i></i>

dis - yeah, that's true too

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:57 am
by israelirealities
i didn't know this quote before, and I tend to agree with it. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Farewell America

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:07 am
by Rigorous Intuition
israelirealities, the whole book is available online at the link in the original post. The chapter titles should be clickable, and they'll take you to the complete chapter. <p></p><i></i>

A must read.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:54 pm
by Ringo
I think we all owe it to ourselves to check this book out. It shed a revealing light on current affairs. <p></p><i></i>

Re: A must read.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:36 pm
by FourthBase
Great, great book.<br><br>Interesting to think that RFK commissioned it, knew its findings. <p></p><i></i>