JFK assassination 'was Cuba plot' (BBC)

by **scollon** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:52 am

Kennedy's assassination was a defining moment in US history A new documentary exploring the death of John F Kennedy claims his assassin was directed and paid by Cuba. Rendezvous with Death, based on new evidence from Cuban, Russian and US sources, took three years to research. One source, ex-Cuban agent Oscar Marino, said Havana had exploited Lee Harvey Oswald, who was arrested but shot dead before he could be tried. Conspiracy theories on the killing have variously accused Cuba, Russia and the US of acting alone or jointly. According to Oscar Marino, the Cubans wanted Kennedy dead because he opposed the revolution and allegedly sought to have its leader Fidel Castro killed. Mr Marino told film director Wilfried Huismann that he knew for certain the assassination was an operation run by the Cuban secret service G2, but he declined to say whether it had been ordered by Mr Castro. I realised that I was used. I felt ashamed. We missed a moment in history. Laurence Keenan Former FBI agent Cuban intelligence made contact with Oswald after being alerted by the Russian KGB in 1962 when he returned to the USA after living in the Soviet Union for three years, Cuban and Russian sources say. "He [Oswald] was so full of hate, he had the idea. We used him," Mr Marino said. A possible Cuban connection was investigated by the US immediately after Kennedy's death. But an FBI officer sent to follow the Oswald's trail during a visit to Mexico was recalled after only three days and the investigation called off. Laurence Keenan, now 81, said it was "perhaps the worst investigation the FBI was ever involved in". "I realised that I was used. I felt ashamed. We missed a moment in history," Mr Keenan said. Oswald, an ex-Marine, was a Communist sympathiser Veteran US official Alexander Haig told the film-maker that Kennedy's successor, Lyndon B Johnson, believed Cuba was to blame and feared a pronounced swing to the right if the truth were known that would keep the Democrats out of power for a long time. According to Mr Haig - a US military adviser at the time and later a secretary of state - "he [Johnson] said 'we must simply not allow the American people to believe Fidel Castro could have killed our president'. "He [Johnson] was convinced Castro killed Kennedy and he took it to his grave." Communist sharpshooter John F Kennedy, the 35th US president, was assassinated as his motorcade drove through Dallas in November 1963. Lee Harvey Oswald, an ex-Marine sharpshooter who worked in a book warehouse overlooking the assassination, was arrested but killed shortly afterwards. He had a Russian wife, called himself a Communist and agitated on behalf of Castro's Cuba. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4582488.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4582488.stm</a>

by **sunny** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:24 pm

The Cuban angle of the assassination has been thouroughly and credibly debunked many times. Operation Northwoods shows definitively that if the CIA or FBI could have pinned it on Cuba, they would have, so that they could have their dirty war with Fidel. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ope...Northwoods</a> Likewise, it has been shown that Oswald was no communist, but a CIA mole, a patsy who had been sheep-dipped to make him a palatable "lone-nut" to the masses.The CIA trained him and there is documentary evidence of this.<a href="http://mccone-rowley.blogspot.com/">mccone-rowley.blogspot.com/</a> Why would Fidel want JFK dead, when he would have to deal with a much more hawkish LBJ? Oswalds "visit" to the Cuban embassy in Mexico never occurred, as the picture purporting to be him outside of the embassy clearly was not him.<a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/LHO25.htm">www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/LHO25.htm</a> Even the whitewash Warren Commission did not classify Oswald as a sharpshooter, but merely a "marksman" a much lesser designation of competence on the firing range. The question is, why are we having to deal with this particular bit of disinfo at this particular time? Plans to invade Cuba in the works once again? Nothing would surprise me.

by **antiaristo** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:35 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The question is, why are we having to deal with this particular bit of disinfo at this particular time?<hr></blockquote> To answer that question, sunny, look at who's doing the propagating. The BBC. Which operates under Royal Charter. Where the Sword of Damaclese hangs over journalist's heads (twenty percent cuts mandated by this current licklespit DG). And the Charter is up for renewal. Ever since Hutton, the BBC has become more and more like Pravda.

by **sunny** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:45 pm

so anti, what is their angle? Pushing for invasion? Why? Just another blood-lust bacchanalia to satisfy the vampires?

by **antiaristo** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:33 pm

sunny, One thing the real perpetrators know well is that you have to have a patsy to take the heat off. dbeach has a favourite theme. That the USA is stuck in a timewarp since the Kennedy assassination. And he's right. With the benefit of hindsight there were two enormous beneficiaries from killing the King. The Bush family, and the Windsor family. Both hate Castro. Both hate the Left. The game now is who can outlast the other?

by **sunny** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:54 pm

Well, I'm pulling for Castro, not because Ima commie symp, but because I'm for anybody who can thumb their nose at the perpetrators for so long, and so loquaciously.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> I also agree with dbeach. Where would these tyrants be today if the killers had been held accountable? The same players in the Kennedy killing are still in play today, and how, right at the top, bucking for absolute power. If Americans had had the guts back then to face the truth and come at these criminals with a mighty roar we would be a better country. As I have said before, studying the JFK assassination woke me to deeper truths I wish weren't true. Anyone wanting to learn their m/o only has to look to Dallas.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:03 pm

Two new JFK books in 2005, one is making a renewed case for Mafia infiltrating the CIA instead of the other way around and it has Thom Hartmann and William Turner endorsing it. I don't buy it. The CIA was assassinating and toppling with impunity at the time and feeling very threatened by JFK, more so than the mob. The CIA had nukes to worry about in their control issues. The other book is more of the common CIA-centric thread in preventing a Kennedy dynasty. 1)'Conspiracy to Stop the Kennedys,' by Mathew Smith. This goes into the deaths of Monroe, JFK, RFK, and the discrediting of Ted Kennedy at Chappaquidick. Smith is British and a purportedly a long time JFK 'expert.' But the other is very Mafia-centric and claims new info. 2)'Ultimate Sacrifice,' by Lamar Waldron with Thom Hartmann This claims that a new document lead shows an invasion of Cuba planned for December 1963 called by the CIA 'AMWORLD.' The 900 page book endorsed by ex-FBI William Turner claims that the Mafia infiltrated the CIA's plans to invade Cuba and used it to kill JFK. Oswald was being dipped to go into Cuba but the Mafia used him as a patsy and took advantage of the expected cover-up of the whole thing to get JFK. This is supposed to explain why the CIA covered up so vigorously for so long. I read some for free (a $30 book!) and wasn't convinced that the Mafia had gotten one up on the CIA. Their personnel were certainly thoroughly meshed making clear roles difficult to discern. Also, I realize that the Mafia has been the whipping boy for the CIA for decades. I even suspect that 'The Godfather' was made a prominent part of American pop culture to keep our minds on organized crime and forget about the CIA. But that's just my opinion. The CIA cover-up with changing the motorcade route, photos showing CIA special operations goons all over Dealey Plaza (umbrella weapon man, radio man, Prouty identifying others), altering the autopsy photos and brain, etc. keep me believing the CIA was at the heart of the crime to maintain control of 'our' government, keep the Vietnam War rolling along, prevent outreach to Castro, prevent ending Cold War profiteering, prevent stopping the Federal Reserve scam etc.

by **dbeach** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:18 pm

my ears are burning Oh its youse all the good guys. Anywho.. One of my other themes is the criminals have the patsy set up before executing the crime.. Oswald was an insider..Imagine his shock that Ruby popped him a few Gee Whiz after J Edgar and GHW promised it was just an act.. MO is constant..Mo Mo Atta was set up long before the crimes of 9/11..he was living the goood life in Floridum partying at strip clubs,snortin,casino cruises with Casino Jack himself..You know the usual wine ya and die ya CIA routine.. Atta however was not on those planes that day.nor were the others..remote control UAVs owned by Dov Zacheim. Atta is alive and well according to his father and so are about 7 others of the 19 BUT the FBI is not investigating.. TOO busy watching law abiding Citizens

by **StarmanSkye** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:13 pm

I don't buy the Cuba/Castro did it 'revelation' for a New York minnut. And I sure don't believe the Madia had 'infiltrated' the CIA -- Likely, in many instances, the collusion was too familiar for such clear separation to make sense. I agree DBeach -- the CIA has been doing wet-ops for a LONG time -- they'll have their patsies well-positioned and prepped well before the crime. More tidbits: More links to the JFK coup: <a href="http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/beast2.html">www.nexusmagazine.com/art...east2.html</a> George Bush, CIA and the JFK Hit In another revelation which informs recent American history, CIA operative Al Carone said that "George Bush was CIA prior to the assassination of John Kennedy in 1963" and that "the Governor of Arkansas that looked the other way at Mena [CIA's cocaine trans-shipping station], Bill Clinton, was CIA back in the late '60s". CIA agent Cord Meyer has often been named as Bill Clinton's handler, while the late Pamela Harriman has been cited as the "power behind the throne". Carone also told Tyree that he "had taken money to a female named Ruth Paine in late 1956 on orders from William Casey [an OSS - CIA operative who was CIA Director from 1981 to 1987]". According to the Tyree lawsuit, "Carone said that Paine was approached by the CIA to find and recruit an individual that was expendable, with communist ties and some type of anti-American background... "Carone said that when Ruth Paine found the individual, she notified her CIA contact, identified as George de Mohrenschildt, who in turn contacted his CIA supervisor, identified as George Bush. Carone said that George Bush was the same George Bush that was CIA Director. Carone said the individual located by Ruth Paine was identified as a Mr Lee Harvey Oswald. "FBI records/reports within 14 days after the assassination of President Kennedy will reflect that Mr George Bush met with J. Edgar Hoover, as Bush was trying to ascertain what the FBI might have stumbled onto by mistake in regards to the Ruth Paine - Oswald connection." CIA's Global Money Laundry: Stephens, Riady & BCCI In his sworn testimony, Al Carone told Bill Tyree that he "was a paymaster for both US military intelligence personnel and CIA personnel when Tyree knew and worked with him". "He [Carone] also worked as a representative of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) which he stated was a bank founded by the US intelligence community in part to finance covert (black) operations worldwide without the approval of the US Congress. He was authorised to withdraw funds from First American Bankshares (aka BCCI) account #2843900, which he stated was a black operation fund unknown to the US Congress at the time." Moreover, Carone said that he was "the middleman between certain CIA factions and certain Mafia families that operated illegal enterprises in New York City". "Carone told the Plaintiff [Tyree] that the CIA used BCCI, BNL, BCP and Intermaritime Bank to launder money for black operations worldwide and for the Mafia in New York City." According to Tyree's lawsuit: "Colonel Carone said the military drug trafficking Operation Watchtower fitted in the picture in the following fashion. Between 1971 - 72, BCCI was conceived and born primarily as a bank for the US intelligence community to go around Congress in funding so-called 'black operations'... "In December 1975, February-March 1976, Operation Watchtower took place that brought over 100 military-style cargo plane loads of cocaine out of Colombia into Albrook Air Station in Panama. "In 1976, Arkansas businessman Jackson Stephens and Indonesian businessman Mochtar Riady formed Stephens Financial Ltd in Hong Kong, which led to a meeting of Stephens and Riady with members of the BCCI. "In 1977, Jackson Stephens invited BCCI into America and helped BCCI bring about the purchase of First American Bankshares, operated by Clark Clifford and Robert Altman." How do these facts connect? Jack Stephens has been a financial backer of both the George Bush campaign and the Bill Clinton campaign for US President. The long and winding road of corruption also led Stephens to purchase Alltel, whose subsidiary, Systematics, used a version of the oft-purloined PROMIS software. According to Tyree's lawsuit: "Jackson Stephens and Mochtar Riady were in business together and paid off politicians from Arkansas to look the other way and ignore the CIA cocaine operation at Mena, Arkansas. The Lippo Group, i.e., Mochtar Riady, had been involved with Bill Clinton since Clinton was Governor in Arkansas. "'Stephens, Riady and the CIA are in bed together,' said Carone. 'They own a lot of people. They have a lot of money. They get things done. I answer to Stephens indirectly. I answer to his money is who I answer to, and so does everyone else at the CIA that wants to get things done where Stephens has influence.'" Just as Special Prosecutor Lawrence Walsh effectively covered up the "high crimes and misdemeanours" of George Bush in the so-called "Iran-Contra Report", so did Kenneth Starr continue the cover-up of CIA drug trafficking with the Clinton/Lewinsky sexcapades and the Clinton impeachment. Starman

by **sunny** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:05 pm

Cannonfire always impresses me; and here in the following post, I think he's really on to something. Be sure to spread the word to everyone you know that what is about to happen regarding the "revelation" that Castro did it has a dirty purpose and share with them the real facts. <a href="http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/01/jfk-new-script.html">cannonfire.blogspot.com/2...cript.html</a> ______________________________________________ Think the JFK assassination is ancient history? Get ready. The past may soon become very present. Even if you have no abiding interest in this matter -- even if you've consider it dull or annoying -- I hope you will read what follows. Although I refuse to turn this blog into a specialists-only discussion of older controversies, we must take preventative action against a forthcoming attempt to put history into re-write. As Xymphora notes in today's column, there are growing indications that the news media will soon "reveal" that Fidel Castro was behind the JFK hit.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:47 pm

The barrage has ratcheted up. Reruns. I think the 'Deep Throat' naming of almost senile Mark Felt was a reaction to the internet awareness of CIA-controlled media.. Woodward followed up by writing a WPost article that addressed almost point-for-point an internet article outing him as naval intelligence working for the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Vietnam War and pointing out all the problems with his story about how he was contacted by 'Deep Throat' while pretending to be a cub reporter at the Washington Post. A bunch of Woodward's old books were also re-released to try and re-characterize him as the mythical watchdog journalist protecting us from abusive government. The CIA's old world newpaper/TV psychological warfare is wearing out and new projects are being pushed forward to hold tattered old lies together easily debunked by internet information. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 1/12/06 4:11 am

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