West develops taste for primates

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Did I miss some sarcasm in the above quote, or are you saying it's okay to machine gun hundreds of Congolese people but not it's not okay to eat a monkey?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No sarcasm. Those bonobos have more humanity than the Congolese who eat them. What's happening to the bonobos is a crime against humanity that deserves international military intervention. It's not just any ordinary genocide against defenseless hominids, they're being <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>eaten</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. I'd gladly sign up to fight the inhuman monsters committing that atrocity.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I support animal rights but I don't think it is a moral crime to eat flesh. I can agree mass consumption of meat, especially with modern factory farm practices causes a lot of problems, but you seem to have a passionate dislike for all meat-eaters.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Well, at some point in the future (hopefully sooner than later) you'll realize that meat-eating is a moral abomination. In the meantime, I don't dislike meat-eaters; I abhor meat-eating itself. <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

Hugh, I've grown weary of pointing out the gaping flaws in your theories. Why? Because you never listen, and your standard response is to quote ad nauseum from CIA documents that have <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>zero</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> verifiable relevance to your examples.<br><br>And I am very well versed in CIA manipulation, media criticism, and so forth, regardless of your continuing need to portray me as an ignorant critic.<br><br>Pointing out the logical bankruptcy of your wilder assertions is not "taking schoolyard potshots," particularly when I go to great pains to present evidence to the contrary (evidence that is simply ignored).<br><br>But you don't listen, you don't consider that you might be off-base, and you go on posting stuff that I couldn't even begin to satirize it's so far into the realm of improbability. <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>No sarcasm. Those bonobos have more humanity than the Congolese who eat them. What's happening to the bonobos is a crime against humanity that deserves international military intervention. It's not just any ordinary genocide against defenseless hominids, they're being eaten. I'd gladly sign up to fight the inhuman monsters committing that atrocity.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Of course, there are ways to stop the Congolese from eating bonobos that don't require large scale slaughter of the humans -- education, better protected habitats, law enforcement, and other non-violent solutions. Nonviolent solutions are always my default. <br><br>I do get a kick out of militant vegetarians who espouse violence against people :-)<br><br>I say that as a pescovegetarian (I eat fish and shellfish). I don't draw ethical lines as sharply as some, though I can't imagine eating a cow, a pig, a chicken, or any other mammal. But I do understand biology and the difference between species. I live with a fair amount of guilt over partaking of fish, but it's hypocrisy I can tolerate.<br><br>The spectrum of compassion is different for all people. I've assisted many people in transitioning to a more compassionate, sustainable diet, but adversarial confrontations and diatribes are always counterproductive. <p></p><i></i>

[bkkexile]

Fourth base said:<br><br>"but get the fuck back to earth"<br><br>same goes, big nose<br><br>People like you make me laugh. You prefer animals to people precisely because you are frightened by people's tendency to behave like animals.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I do get a kick out of militant vegetarians who espouse violence against people :-)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The Congolese are slaughtering the bonobos into extinction. Bonobos are basically short, hairy, sexually active 5 year old human beings. It's not merely the meat-eating that would justify fighting the poachers to the death, it's the genocide. So my feelings about the bonobos have little to do with vegetarianism, and almost everything to do with bonobos and other great apes deserving basic human rights.<br><br>I appreciate your other points, Pan. Unfortunately, people cling to eating meat thoughtlessly and they shrug off philosophical/ethical persuasion. Visual shock a la anti-abortionists and their disgusting fetus signs may be the only way to get people to confront <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>themselves</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. I don't know, I'm sure you've thought about it more. Perhaps we can talk about it in a new thread?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>People like you make me laugh. You prefer animals to people precisely because you are frightened by people's tendency to behave like animals.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Who said I preferred animals? Dumbass. <p></p><i></i>

[bkkexile]

You want to wipe out people for eating bonobo and in general your attitude sucks. I'm sorry if you were hurt by nasty people as a tyke, but believe me there are plenty of good ones out there. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You want to wipe out people for eating bonobo and in general your attitude sucks. I'm sorry if you were hurt by nasty people as a tyke, but believe me there are plenty of good ones out there.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Yeah, ummm...is there an ignore button? <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Well, at some point in the future (hopefully sooner than later) you'll realize that meat-eating is a moral abomination. In the meantime, I don't dislike meat-eaters; I abhor meat-eating itself. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Meat eating isn't a moral crime. Roadkill is more a crime than eating a cow IMO. But the cows round here have it pretty good, till they get shuffled onto the truck.<br><br>The wholesale slaughter of a species that is so like us is hardly surprising given what humanity has devolved into. Thats no reason not to be outraged tho.<br><br>And it is appalling, and pissweak.<br><br>I got no probs with vegoes. My wife has been one as long as I have known her. She never abuses meat eaters, cept if they start on her. And she accepts my carniverous barbarianism. But I eat meat, and yes it is taking life. Thats right. I do it as little as I need to, but every dead thing I eat I killed( even if someone else did the deed, its for my benefit). That includes carrots. The missus just read this and laughed.<br><br>"We can't all be perfect," she just said.<br><br>The older I get the more the religious habit of saying grace before a meal makes sense. It doesn't matter where your food comes from if you don't get that all life is sacred (and profane) then you just don't get it.<br><br>Its good living somewhere you can actually control how you access food tho. Its easy for me in this part of the world... <p></p><i></i>