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Postby yesferatu » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:00 am

chemtrails to me, please. <br><br>Either I am missing some previous web page, where the so-called "scalar technology" is explained, or Stevens is presuming we all know wtf he is talking about.<br><br>On the first page he launches off with this:<br><br><<The contrails are flown to map the sky of these scalar/EM energy signatures and to make what is invisible visible. It is that simple. This is the sole reason for the chemtrails! The extent of the weather manipulation must be known at all times in as many locations as physically and fiscally possible. This knowledge directly results in how we, the US, will fight back against the other weather makers that don't have our (the US's) best interests at heart. So this contrail marking program is near real time surveillance of the scalar happening in the sky.>><br><br>The part that reads "to map the sky of <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>these</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> scalar/EM energy signatures" - as if he has a previous definition to which he refers his readers.....but it never was explained what he means by it!<br><br>Am I supposed to know by the pics? <br><br>Maybe his theory is correct...all I know is I have no effin clue what he means by scalar.<br><br>I understand the "to make visible what is invisible" part. The rest I don't get. Anyone wanna school me on this?<br><br>Here is the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.weatherwars.info/chemtrails.htm">page</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=yesferatu@rigorousintuition>yesferatu</A> at: 6/25/06 12:03 am<br></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:56 am

Please read carefully:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9268.html">www.chemtrailcentral.com/...d9268.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:59 am

The thread I made there where I exposed Stevens has apparently been deleted. By his own admission, Scott Stevens does not possess a meteorology degree and has been fired from at least 2 news jobs as a result, in addition to being caught using a news station's email to solicit donations for his website in the past. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby yesferatu » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:41 pm

The rabbit hole with Craddock gave me a headache. <br><br>I compounded it when I decided to read up on scalar theory for myself.<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://weather.ou.edu/~metr4424/Files/W1_ScalarAnalysis.pdf">Here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>But I found this<br><br><<‘Weather Wars’ — Bad Science Fiction for Meteorology Fans<br>May 12, 2006, 7:29 pm<br>By Martin Hackworth<br>Senior Lecturer<br>Idaho State University<br><br>The Associated Students of Idaho State University and ISU have provided forums for recent talks on UFOs, creation science, weather wars and future attractions include the Bigfoot Rendezvous. All we need to round out the pseudoscientific theme are a psychic detective, a chiropractor who doesn’t believe in germs, and perhaps an astrologer.<br><snip><br> The best potion in the world for loopiest ideas is exposure.<br>Scott Stevens, a locally well-know former TV weatherman, was the most recent presenter in this fringe science series. For those of you who missed the lecture, titled “Weather Wars,” Steven’s ideas and opinions on human (and extraterrestrial) manipulation of weather and climate on the Earth may be found on his Web site at http://weatherwars.info.According to Steven’s Web site, his formal meteorological training came during a brief stint at the University of Kansas which he chose, in part, because “the math requirements at KU weren't too tough.” It is then perhaps only a bit surprising that Steven’s presentation contained little in the line of scientific information on how weather and climate systems actually operate and furthermore demonstrated a complete dearth of understanding about atmospheric optics, mathematics, electromagnetic waves and quantum mechanics.<br>While the latter items are understandable given Stevens austere scientific background I find it difficult to understand how anyone who spent more than a decade in front of a green screen (albeit mostly reading an AccuWeather script from a teleprompter) in the business of dispensing weather forecasts to the public failed to grasp the relationship between water vapor, condensation, and clouds.<br>Steven’s talk is illustrated throughout with cloud photographs, mostly altocumulus clouds<br> (http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/cld/cldtyp/mdl/altcu.rxml), <br><br>that he claims harbor unusual shapes and formations. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The mechanisms purported to be driving these unusual clouds are scalar waves, a type of longitudinal electromagnetic wave created with energy from the vacuum of space.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>These scalar waves are supposedly produced by scalar weapons in secret locations around the world, in outer space, and even from small, mobile tank mounted systems though the exact caliber of the ray gun on the tanks was not revealed.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>The problem with all of this is that cumulonimbus clouds, being about as common as warm fronts, are found in variety and abundance throughout Earth’s skies. Furthermore though <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>there is no scientific evidence for the existence of scalar waves or the extraction of energy from zero-point systems</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> there is well over a hundred years of evidence to the contrary — evidence that forms the basis of several of the most successful theories in all of science and the basis of nearly all of modern optics, thermodynamics, electronics and atmospheric science.<br><br>Stevens also discussed his ideas on the production of aircraft contrails which he refers to as “chemtrails.” <br>Evidently Stevens doesn’t find it plausible that aircraft a) ever fly through clouds, b) are capable of producing visible vapor trails via mere condensation, c) are generally flown by human beings. According to Stevens, chemtrails, which somehow elude spectrographic analysis, are the attempts of aliens and their agents in governments around the world to manipulate climate on earth in a manner more successful than that yielded by their attempts at manipulation of the luminosity of the sun.<br>Apparently he feels that this is the major cause of global warming rather than 150 years of our using the atmosphere as a CO2 dump. Of course the fact that Stevens acknowledges the existence of global warming puts him, at least, ahead of President Bush’s science advisors.<br>There actually is truth in the claim that aircraft contrails influence climate. Contrails are suspected of influencing global temperatures by affecting the amount of sunlight that is transmitted through the atmosphere and reaches the surface of the earth. During the 9/11 hiatus when no aircraft were flown for several days variations in temperature over North America increased. As for the rest, well, there is again no evidence that contrails are anything other that water vapor and spent jet fuel and certainly no evidence that their production is the result of an alien plan to affect global warming.<br>Finally Stevens insists that hurricanes such as Katrina and Rita have been manipulated by human (and alien) weapons in such a manner as to increase their destructive power. Evidence cited by Stevens included a newspaper photograph which he purported to be of polychromatic laser beams from outer space irradiating the ocean — this resulting in the abnormally high surface temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico that fed Katrina.<br>As the majority of students in my freshman physics courses know laser beams are both highly monochromatic and generally not seen passing through air unless they interact with something. What this particular photograph did illustrate, quite artistically, was the separation of color due to a defect in the printing process. Most, if not all, of the film clips and photos shown by Stevens displayed nothing untoward to those familiar with the atmosphere, atmospheric optics and photography other than unusual camera angles and liberal use of frame rate adjustments.<br>Let me be clear. Stevens has every right in the world to believe that humans and aliens are conspiring to influence our weather and if he feels that it’s his evangelical duty to warn all of us about it, even if he’s a little fuzzy on exactly how and why, then good for him. Heck I’d even agree with him if he were right. Unfortunately he is not. And his claim that there is scientific support for his views simply does not stand up to even a modicum of common sense much less scientific scrutiny.<br>There is not a scintilla of scientific, mathematical or historical evidence to support Stevens’ claims concerning weather and climate. And though even the most lucid explanations for simple natural phenomena, like jet contrails, aren’t likely to make a dent on Stevens or his small army of scientifically impaired sycophants, don’t you be fooled. There is simply nothing to any of this.<br>Though I found the majority of the “Weather Wars” presentation to be funny, albeit inadvertently so, I was mildly disappointed (though not surprised) by the lack of critical questioning from members of the near capacity crowd. The majority of opinion voiced was in support of Stevens.<br><snip><br>If we, as a society, did do a better job of encouraging critical thinking and the value of the scientific method of inquiry, ideas like weather wars, 9/11 conspiracies, Bigfoot, etc., would have a half-life of about a nanosecond. >><br><br>While alot of this is good exposure, yet there is some academic pooh-poohing that has absolutely no basis of proof for the "obvious" explanations given. Example:<br>In regard to the photo of the Gulf where the three bands suddenly appear parallel to one another, and which indicated actual water temps, this lecturer has this explanation: "What this particular photograph did illustrate, quite artistically, was the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>separation of color due to a defect in the printing process.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->"<br>Hahaha. Smart people. Ya gotta love 'em. I mean we simply do not have ANY technology that could irradiate portions of the ocean, and we have no weather modification programs, and no experimentation on any large scale. It was a defect in the printing process (!!) which explains it all.<br>And his throw away analysis of chemtrails is another example of applied rigorous academics...not.<br>"Evidently Stevens doesn’t find it plausible that aircraft a) ever fly through clouds, b) are capable of producing visible vapor trails via <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>mere condensation</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, c) are generally flown by human beings." <br><br>Oh ok.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.pocatelloshops.com/blogs/Journal_Opinion.php?id=237">www.pocatelloshops.com/blogs/Journal_Opinion.php?id=237</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Someone explain WeatherWars' "scalar" theory r

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:36 pm

Wheat over here, chaff over there.. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:43 pm

I sent him (S.S) some photos of holes in clouds that were square shaped, earlier this year. (Ie 4 right angles not necessarily square, oblong perhaps, but... unusual).<br><br>The only thing I saw on his site of interest in response was the result of his weeks of storm chasing. That was interesting. That storms are maintained by rotating magnetic fields. Interesting to see where that goes.<br><br>But he takes Beardens word as truth and starts from there.<br><br>I dunno if Mr, sorry Col Bearden is the most credible cab off the rank. I dunno how J Naudin feels about working with him. I checked his website recently and found little reference to Bearden. Then again Naudin got a contract with JPL a few years ago didn't he.<br><br>Then again I haven't taken that much notice of the whole chemtrail thing for a while. To me whatever is going on it is an exercise in applied powerlessness trying to deal with it.<br><br>PS That article in "phenomena" (does anyone know what I am talking about?). I think its a couple of years old...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:52 pm

Bearden thinks that over-unity technology is produced by using deliberately faulty electronic components.<br><br>He sat in a restaurant somewhere in Florida claiming he saw a spoon bend while he was eating and used that to justify his 'woodpecker grid' claim that the Russians had destroyed the space shuttle(which blew up on my birthday, for trivia lovers)..<br><br>Scott hands everything over to Bearden on a silver platter.<br><br>Scott is an internet Pied Piper.<br><br>Beware. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:38 pm

Bastard I just lost a post.<br><br>I followed Bearden for about a month, and then got jack of him, about the time the meg was made public.<br><br>I don't disagree with scalar theory or some of what they say, but I would't say its right either.<br><br>Its just one of those things...<br><br>The idea of using collapsing waveforms to release energy makes sense to me. But to really get to grips with it I would have to do some serious maths. My better half taught herself maths, so far shes up to 2nd or 3rd yr maths. So we are getting there.<br><br>My post had a link to the phenomonen article, by Colin Bennett.<br><br>It was reprinted on a site called "Barium Blues".<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.bariumblues.com/chemtrails_phenomena_colin_bennett.htm" target="top">here it is</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:11 pm

Here's a good analysis of Bearden:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.phact.org/e/z/beardenreview.htm">www.phact.org/e/z/beardenreview.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:29 pm

Here's what I think(for whatever that's worth):<br><br>I'm pretty confident that 'Scalar' is a real science. Matter of fact I know it is, because you can find many university discussions about it. Bearden, and following suit, Stevens, have taken the concept of the science, along with Standing Wave, and Tesla-based concepts, and run amok with them, making the technology appear completely rediculous while simultaeously leading inquisitive minds away from the US as the country developing it(Bearden will not say the word HAARP). Bearden has a....complex role that I don't fully understand; he's joined at the hip to Craddock who in turn is joined at the hip to Greer(cSETI), and they just run hog wild drumming up curiosity towards cancer/AIDS curing machines to Russian Scalar technology to making people fearful of Cell Phone towers(they started the rumor that the towers kill people existing in proximity to them) to witnessing UFOs in the beachfront property Craddock claims as his business address at La Jolla.<br><br>These people are multi-faceted and confounding to elicit true motives from. I get the impression they run around instigating fears in the extremely wealthy to earn their support in SDI-based research; Greer plays one card, and Bearden plays another, with Craddock in the middle as both of their's 'webmaster'.<br><br>Stevens postulates without any credible evidence that 'weather wars' are Russian-leased technology that the Japanese are employing to (A) obtain vengeance for WWII, and (B) foil the corn futures market.<br><br>I believe firmly there's an existing technology; hell, it's got it's own webcam:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/charts/wi260211.jpg">www.haarp.alaska.edu/charts/wi260211.jpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>But Stevens' role is to lead his readers away from this. He makes multiple assertions that are impossible to exist next to each other on a regular basis and floods his readers with droves of junk data like claiming UFO's are doing engineering work on our star because a pixel in the SOHO camera reached a state of saturation and required CCD baking to reset.<br><br>He asserts that 'chemtrails' are used by US forces battling the Yakuza to reveal the otherwise invisible signatures of their Scalar weaponry, while also claiming that they make people extremely ill. He can't pin his own story down for more than a few sentances at a time, basically. Again, Caveat emptor..These guys have been a real thorn in the side of any valid arguments.<br><br>As intended, I'm 99% sure. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A> at: 6/25/06 9:36 pm<br></i>
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:39 pm

Good link, but half way down it becomes all greek to me...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I have similar issues with Bearden, my father in law is well was a ham radio freak, and he reminded me of the polarisation issue.<br><br>I still think there is something in the whole "scalar tech"<br> thing. I just dunno about Beardens connection to it all. If anything he seems a little to anti Russian, and I sense a lttle of the disinfo artist in him. he jumped on Harry Masons bright skies stuff like it was holy writ. No questioning Mason. mind you alot of Mason's work seems interesting. There were reports of orange fireballs out back in NSW and SA, thousands of kms from the pilbara. Two friends of mine saw them on the east coast.<br><br>Perhaps the last place to go looking for the right info is maxwells "ignored" equations.<br><br>I think Jean Naudin wishes he never had anything to do with him. Some schools in melbourne may be planning to try to replicate his lifter experiments. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:42 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>he jumped on Harry Masons bright skies stuff like it was holy writ.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That's right...You're down under. I read the Bright Skies stuff ages ago and really didn't know what to make of it, but clearly, that's Bearden's Holy Temple..<br><br>Elaborate further on anything you have that can confirm that stuff if you can. That, to me, was the internet boogey-man before the chemtrail craze hit. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:44 pm

Anything discrediting anyone that has anything to do with james randi makes me wonder.<br><br>the worst thing about the link you supplied is that it is affiliated or something with james Randi.<br><br>Makes me think Bearden may be right after all<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I have never trusted JR and one of these days I have a feeling he may end up owing me some cash. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:53 pm

I don't think there's any affiliation with Randi on that page. If it's being refferenced, it's for bullshit factor. The debunk is written by someone named 'shawn'. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby StarmanSkye » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:54 pm

Et in Arcadia ego:<br><br>Splendid reference critiquing Bearden -- I never really quite knew what to make of him before.<br><br>Too much.<br><br>Thanks for the heads-up!<br>Starman<br><br><br>****<br>--quote--<br>Essentially, Mr Bearden is arguing over-unity is only possible with antiquated second rate equipment, in poorly equipped labs. Any attempt to use modern scientific equipment, accurate sensors, proper wire, measuring apparatus, or other standard lab equipment, will ruin the effect. The reader is left to ponder the consequences of this, as Mr Bearden’s stubborn belief that functional modern equipment kills off over-unity performance, may have relevance in terms of understanding his later researches.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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