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'Only 50 years left' for sea fish

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:33 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'Only 50 years left' for sea fish</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>There will be virtually nothing left to fish from the seas by the middle of the century if current trends continue, according to a major scientific study.<br><br>Stocks have collapsed in nearly one-third of sea fisheries, and the rate of decline is accelerating.<br><br>Writing in the journal Science, the international team of researchers says fisheries decline is closely tied to a broader loss of marine biodiversity.<br><br>But a greater use of protected areas could safeguard existing stocks.<br><br>"The way we use the oceans is that we hope and assume there will always be another species to exploit after we've completely gone through the last one," said research leader Boris Worm from Dalhousie University in Canada. <br><br> "What we're highlighting is there is a finite number of stocks; we have gone through one-third, and we are going to get through the rest," he told the BBC News website.<br><br>Steve Palumbi from Stanford University in California, one of the other scientists on the project, added: "Unless we fundamentally change the way we manage all the ocean species together, as working ecosystems, then this century is the last century of wild seafood."<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Spanning the seas</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>This is a vast piece of research, incorporating scientists from many institutions in Europe and the Americas, and drawing on four distinctly different kinds of data. <br><br>Catch records from the open sea give a picture of declining fish stocks.<br><br>In 2003, 29% of open sea fisheries were in a state of collapse, defined as a decline to less than 10% of their original yield.<br><br>Bigger vessels, better nets, and new technology for spotting fish are not bringing the world's fleets bigger returns - in fact, the global catch fell by 13% between 1994 and 2003.<br><br>Historical records from coastal zones in North America, Europe and Australia also show declining yields, in step with declining species diversity; these are yields not just of fish, but of other kinds of seafood too.<br><br>Zones of biodiversity loss also tended to see more beach closures, more blooms of potentially harmful algae, and more coastal flooding.<br><br>Experiments performed in small, relatively contained ecosystems show that reductions in diversity tend to bring reductions in the size and robustness of local fish stocks. This implies that loss of biodiversity is driving the declines in fish stocks seen in the large-scale studies.<br><br>The final part of the jigsaw is data from areas where fishing has been banned or heavily restricted.<br><br>These show that protection brings back biodiversity within the zone, and restores populations of fish just outside.<br><br>"The image I use to explain why biodiversity is so important is that marine life is a bit like a house of cards," said Dr Worm.<br><br>"All parts of it are integral to the structure; if you remove parts, particularly at the bottom, it's detrimental to everything on top and threatens the whole structure.<br><br>"And we're learning that in the oceans, species are very strongly linked to each other - probably more so than on land." <br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>Protected interest</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>What the study does not do is attribute damage to individual activities such as overfishing, pollution or habitat loss; instead it paints a picture of the cumulative harm done across the board.<br><br>Even so, a key implication of the research is that more of the oceans should be protected. <br><br>But the extent of protection is not the only issue, according to Carl Gustaf Lundin, head of the global marine programme at IUCN, the World Conservation Union.<br><br>"The benefits of marine protected areas are quite clear in a few cases; there's no doubt that protecting areas leads to a lot more fish and larger fish, and less vulnerability," he said.<br><br>"But you also have to have good management of marine parks and good management of fisheries. Clearly, fishing should not wreck the ecosystem, bottom trawling being a good example of something which does wreck the ecosystem."<br><br>But, he said, the concept of protecting fish stocks by protecting biodiversity does make sense.<br><br>"This is a good compelling case; we should protect biodiversity, and it does pay off even in simple monetary terms through fisheries yield."<br><br>Protecting stocks demands the political will to act on scientific advice - something which Boris Worm finds lacking in Europe, where politicians have ignored recommendations to halt the iconic North Sea cod fishery year after year.<br><br>Without a ban, scientists fear the North Sea stocks could follow the Grand Banks cod of eastern Canada into apparently terminal decline.<br><br>"I'm just amazed, it's very irrational," he said.<br><br>"You have scientific consensus and nothing moves. It's a sad example; and what happened in Canada should be such a warning, because now it's collapsed it's not coming back." <br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42269000/gif/_42269000_seafd_global_loss203gr.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414.stm">news.bbc.co.uk</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 11/2/06 2:34 pm<br></i>
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Just another psy-op

Postby 5E6A » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:53 pm

Uh oh! Peak Fish! Don't worry, it's just another zio-bilder-illumi-fasci-dustrialist ploy to use nonexistent resource depletion to scare the masses into doing their bidding. Right? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Just another psy-op

Postby postrchild » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:38 pm

This was a big issue in the 90's around local coastal communities in FL. <br><br>and this interesting article.<br><br>THE IMPACT OF DRIFTNET FISHING<br>ON SUSTAINABLE FISHERIES <br><br>Introduction <br><br>"Roughly a quarter of the animal protein food intake of the peoples of the world comes from ocean and fresh waters of the world" (Bardach pers. comm. 1991). However, there is a limit to the ocean's ability to produce biomass. With ever growing demand to feed an ever increasing world population it is imperative to fish all fisheries at sustainable levels and to reduce waste to zero. As the driftnet catch figures indicate, driftnet fisheries have caused an overall decrease, not an increase in the total amount of protein harvested. The total tonnage of salmon harvested in both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans decreased substantially, with decreasing population numbers and decreasing body weight both attributable to the high seas harvesting of juvenile, low weight individuals. The North Pacific albacore stocks were decimated, the albacore stocks in the South Pacific were severely overfished, and the Indian Ocean and Atlantic Ocean stocks may suffer a similar fate. Other stocks, such as pelagic armorhead and Pacific pomfret, were heavily exploited by driftnets without anyone reaping the benefits. <br><br>In his report to the United Nations General Assembly in 1990, the U.N. Secretary-General announced that: "[Y]ields of the stocks of the most preferred fish have already reached or are approaching levels of full exploitation." New players on the fishing scene or players that seek to increase their portion of the take of marine resources now do so to the detriment of those fishermen already exploiting the resources. Nowhere is this more true than the driftnet fisheries. With the possible exception of the North Pacific neon flying squid fishery, all target species taken by driftnet fisheries were already being exploited by fishermen using other, more sustainable and more manageable methods of fishing. Even the neon squid fishery cannot be defended because its by-catch, which is lost or mostly discarded, includes enormous quantities of pelagic armorhead, Pacific pomfret, and blue shark, species that must also be harvested in a sustainable way to meet the ever growing demand for marine protein. <br><br>Sustainable fisheries are sustainable because they are very focused fisheries, catching the target species and little else. They are generally active, not passive fisheries. Waste and by-catch is minimal. The catch is usually fresh. Sustainable fishery methods include (1) encircling seine nets, (2) long lines, (3) pole and line or live bait and (4) jigging and trolling. (Figures 12a, 12b, 13a, 13b) <br><br>Sustainable fisheries can be managed so that they remain maximally productive. Management requires that fishing effort be controlled so that no more and preferable less than the maximum sustainable yield (MSY) of the target population is caught during the year by all fishermen fishing on that population. This means that the amount of the population that is caught each year should not exceed the amount of growth and recruitment into the population each year. Most importantly, this means that fishermen can fish the target population year after year without depleting it and threatening their own livelihood. <br><br>Since maximum sustainable yield is difficult to pinpoint and must also take other sources of mortality into consideration, it generally is safer to take the optimum sustainable yield (OSY) of a population, which is less that MSY. Scientists that met in Sydney, B.C. to evaluate the results of driftnet fishing qualified the definition of "management" even more, in recognizing that removing a percentage of the target species could also affect other species and even the entire ecosystem of which the target species is only a part. This new qualification is even more important when a fishery removes large numbers of other animals as by-catch. <br><br>"The use of marine resources should promote efficient harvests in ways that will (a) ensure as far as practicable that human activities do not result in the decrease of any population of marine species below a level close to that which ensures the greatest net annual increment or (b) will not catch numbers of either target or non-target species that will result in significant changes in the relationships among any of the components of the marine ecosystem of which they are a part" (U.S. Summary Report 1991). Tuna fishermen often exploit these relationships, using birds, dolphins and ocean sunfish as "bird dogs". Without these animals in the ocean to guide them to schools of tuna, fishermen found that they spent much more time and fuel searching for their prey. However, fish are not harvested with the primary purpose of feeding mankind on a sustainable basis. In market-oriented economies fishing is regarded as a business, not a method of feeding the hungry. Investors in fishing vessels and gear want to recoup their investment in the shortest period of time. On a business balance sheet the need for short-term profits usually prevail over the desire for long-term sustainability. <br><br>The North Pacific Albacore Fishery - A Case History <br><br>Participants <br><br>Five States fished for albacore in the North Pacific in the 1980s: Canada, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Taiwan, and the United States. The Canadian albacore fishery peaked in 1972 and declined to landings generally below 100 metric tons after 1984. The Japanese albacore fleet fished with pole and line (bait boat), long-line, and driftnet. Its pole and line fleet fished primarily in the western North Pacific west of 170 deg E. The Japanese large-mesh albacore driftnet fleet fished east of 170 deg E and has been described above. The Japanese long-line fleet fished all over the Pacific Ocean. The South Korean albacore fishery used long-lines primarily. The Taiwanese used large mesh drift nets to fish for albacore in the North Pacific; there was a small long-line catch. The U.S. albacore fleet was predominantly trolling vessels (jig vessels) between 25-100 feet, although there were still some baitboats operating in the late 1980s. The U.S. trolling fleet fished north of the Hawaiian archipelago, moving east to fish off the west coast of the United States mainland as the season progressed. <br><br>The Target Species <br><br>North Pacific albacore (Thunnus alalunga) spawn west of the Hawaiian Archipelago between 10 deg and 20 deg N. Sub-adults are found further north between 30 deg and 50 deg N. Seasonal transpacific migrations also occur, and as a result, "there is a potential for significant interactions between the Japanese fisheries in the western Pacific and North American fisheries in the eastern Pacific" (Wetherall 1989). The surface albacore fisheries, which utilize trolling gear, baitboats, and large-mesh driftnets, fish for sub-adult albacore in waters between 15 and 19 deg C, although albacore have also been taken 10 - 11 deg C water by squid driftnets (Wetherall 1989). In 1989, the albacore taken by the trolling fleet averaged 65 cm in length and were three to four years of age. Albacore begin to reproduce at about five years of age. <br><br>The Fishing Season <br><br>The Japanese large-mesh albacore driftnet fleets fished north of the Hawaiian archipelago between January and May to avoid competing with the squid driftnet fleets that begin fishing in approximately the same area in May. The U.S. trolling fleet with its smaller vessels fish in the summer and early fall to avoid the heavy winter seas. The trolling season is generally between June and October. The trolling fleet's normal fishing grounds are 80-100 miles south of the squid grounds and the fleet moves east as the season progresses. In the summer of 1991, radio messages from the trolling fleet reported that hundreds of driftnet vessels were fishing in the middle of the albacore grounds and that trolling vessels were picking up chunks of small mesh driftnet with their hooks. <br><br>Albacore Trolling Operations <br><br>A trolling vessel trails 1014 hooks from two lowered outriggers and normally cruises around 56 knots. The fleet operates during the daylight hours only. The fishery is closely targeted to catch albacore and nothing else; there is no unintentional by-catch. Albacore are brought on board alive and are immediately chilled down, vacuum packed and/or frozen, producing a top quality product. However, after high-seas driftnet operations began, trollers began catching a lot of net-marked albacore; estimates varied between 18% (Rensink and Miller 1991) and 50% (Hornidge pers. comm.). The percentage increased the nearer the trollers fished to the driftnet fleet (Murray et al 1990). Some of the troll catch were still bleeding and bruised from the nets; others had old scars. Encounters with nets removed much of the mucous that protects the fish and most fish that were net-marked had external parasites. Some tuna were missing a fin. Trollers also noticed that in addition to a lot less fish, the albacore schools had broken up and the fish appeared skittish and stopped biting after 10 minutes or so; previously they bit for up to two hours. Trollers also look for seabirds and ocean sunfish to find tuna. The huge ocean sunfish act like fish aggregation devices (FADs). With the advent of driftnet fishing and the large numbers of ocean sunfish taken as by-catch, there were few left to use as fish finders. Fishermen also reported that they weren't seeing as many birds as they used to. In 1990, albacore trollers spent approximately 75% of their time looking for the fish that birds used to find for them. <br><br>Albacore trolling is a very economic way to fish. A crew of two or three people working a 1821 meter vessel could land one and one half tons of albacore a day in the late 1970s. A 350 GRT large-mesh driftnet vessel with a crew of 20 also could land 1/2 tons a day, but with much higher fuel, gear and labor costs and a huge amount of wasted by-catch. <br><br>The Catch <br><br>During the 1989 season, approximately 450 U.S. vessels trolled for albacore in the North Pacific for a total of 8,100 days of effort. They brought in a record low of 1,918 metric tons. Except for the large-mesh driftnet fishery (Table 2), catch/effort statistics from the albacore trollers fishing east of 170 deg E steadily declined in the 1970s and 1980s. (Figure 14) In May of 1981, the Japanese government relegated its driftnet fleets to a zone east of 170 deg E to avoid competition with the Japanese pole and line and squid-jigging fleets. In that year the albacore catch of its large-mesh driftnet fleet more than tripled (10,348 metric tons). The incidental catch of albacore by the Japanese squid driftnet fleets for that year is not known. However, the number of Japanese squid driftnet vessels that year rose to 534 and the squid fishing grounds overlap the albacore grounds. Current data indicates that sub-adult albacore two to three years old make up a large portion of the by-catch of the squid driftnet fleet. The U.S. trolling fleet caught 12,694 metric tons of albacore in 1981. In 1982, the catch of albacore by the Japanese large-mesh fleet fishing between January and May increased to 12,511 metric tons. By the time the U.S. trolling fleet arrived on the albacore grounds in June, the albacore stocks had been decimated. Their catch after several months of effort amounted to half of what it had been the previous year. <br><br>Since 1982 the North Pacific albacore stocks have not recovered. The trolling fleet doubled and tripled its time at sea trying to find albacore; its catch diminished to 1/4 to 1/6 of what is was. Data presented at the Pacific Albacore Workshop in May 1989, indicated that whole year classes were either missing or much decreased (Bartoo and Watanabe 1989). In 1989, the abundance of albacore three, four and five years old may have been at all time lows. By 1990, stocks of albacore off the west coast of the U.S. mainland were disappearing (Figure 15) The long-line catch of adult albacore also declined. <br><br>Official estimates of the total catch of albacore by all Japanese driftnet fisheries was 10,569 metric tons in 1984 and 13,132 metric tons in 1985 (Japan Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fishery Yearbooks). Unofficial estimates for those years were 14,352 and 20,199 metric tons, respectively (JFA Internal Report 1989). (Table 4) None of these figures take into consideration the amount of albacore lost as dropouts. The total catch of North Pacific albacore from all sources was 75,326 metric tons in 1984 and 68,614 metric tons in 1985. In 1972, the year before driftnets began to impact the central North Pacific, the total catch of albacore from all sources was 108,790 metric tons. (Table 2) Estimates of maximum sustainable yield (MSY) for the North Pacific albacore stocks had been estimated at between 85,000-135,000 metric tons per year (Wetherall 1989), but are currently being revised downward as a result of taking into consideration the patchy distribution of the resource and the increasing ability of fishermen to locate high density patches due to modern technology (Bartoo and Watanabe 1989; Kleiber and Perrin 1989). (Figure 14) Scientists meeting at Sidney, B.C. in June 1991, estimated that "approximately one-half of the fisheries mortality for albacore in the North Pacific is attributable to the driftnet fisheries" (U.S. Summary Report 1991). <br><br>The North Atlantic Salmon Fisheries <br><br>At the beginning of the twentieth century, driftnets made of hemp, tar-coated cotton, and other natural fibers were widely employed at the mouths of estuaries to catch mature Atlantic salmon as they returned to their native streams to spawn. In the 1960s, however, these natural fiber nets were replaced with nets made of multifilament and monofilament nylon. This new material greatly increased the effectiveness of the technique, permitting much longer nets to be set 24 hours a day in rough weather far out in the Atlantic. These driftnets took vast numbers of underweight, immature salmon. They also wasted much of the resource. Left unattended for hours, often in rough seas, the driftnet-caught salmon putrefied, dropped out of the nets, or fell prey to scavengers. Salmon that escaped were later found ulcerated due to net damage and unable to spawn. Salmon that were brought to shore had to be sold at a much lower price than that caught fresh in local rivers. As the popularity of the off-shore driftnet increased, the salmon stocks declined, threatening the livelihood of the traditional salmon fishing communities. One by one the Atlantic salmon states of Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland, Norway, and Canada banned the use of nylon driftnets within their 12-mile territorial seas (Mills 1989). However, most still permitted their fishermen to use the technique on the high seas. <br><br>The decline of the Atlantic salmon stocks was greatly accelerated with the discovery that salmon from all over the North Atlantic congregated west of Greenland and in the Davis strait to feed and put on weight. Almost immediately this region was inundated with driftnetters. The Greenland catch jumped from sixty metric tons in 1960 to 1539 tons in 1964, to 2260 tons in 1969-1971--about 17% of the world catch. In 1969, an international conference organized by the Atlantic Salmon Research Trust in London and attended by representatives of eleven major fishing countries agreed unanimously that all driftnetting of salmon in the North Atlantic should be forbidden for a period of ten years. That same year, the International Convention for the Northwest Atlantic Fisheries (ICNAF) Commission adopted a ban on high seas fishing for Atlantic salmon. Denmark, the Federal Republic of Germany and Norway objected to the ban. The failure of Denmark to recognize the ban effectively nullified the measure. Although Denmark agreed to freeze its catch at its 1969 level and a quota of 1200 tons was set by ICNAF for the 1971 season, the interim measure permitted fishing to continue at a dangerously high level from the standpoint of long range conservation. In response, in 1971 the United States Congress passed the Fishermen's Protective Act ("Pelly Amendment"), which authorizes the President to prohibit the importation of fish and fishery products from any nation that does not practice fishery conservation on the high seas. <br><br>In 1972, the Danish and U.S. governments signed an agreement implementing the ICNAF resolution, in which the Danes agreed to reduce driftnetting for salmon on the high seas off the coast of Greenland. In 1973, the Northeast Atlantic Fisheries Commission adopted a recommendation banning driftnet fishing for salmon on the high seas of the Northeast Atlantic. The ban was introduced gradually, becoming total in 1976. <br><br>The North Pacific Salmon Fisheries <br><br>The high seas salmon driftnet fisheries have been condemned by many as an economically inefficient, non sustainable method of fishing. They catch salmon before they can reach full size and bring the maximum market price, up to fifty percent of the catch drops out of the nets before they can be brought on board resulting in additional waste, and the various North American and Asian stocks intermingle on the high seas, making it impossible to protect specific stocks known to be in trouble. After the 1980 chinook harvest, one study estimated that the inshore yield to U.S. fishermen would have been 6.5 times greater than the high seas yield, if the stocks had been allowed to mature and return to their native streams (Note 1982). <br><br>Furthermore, the high seas squid driftnet fisheries of Japan, the Republic of Korea, and Taiwan had high "incidental" catches of salmon, which may not have been so incidental (the Japanese squid fishery used driftnets similar to those used by the salmon fishery) (Anderson 1989; Matsen 1989). Begun in 1978, the Japanese squid fishery quickly expanded across much of the North Pacific. By agreement, the fishery was supposed to stay in waters too warm for salmon. However, Canadian research data indicates a large overlap in stocks of neon flying squid and stocks of all six species of North American salmon (LeBrasseur et al 1988; LeBrasseur 1987). Neon squid are commonly found in waters between 15 and 24 deg C in July and August and in waters between 10 and 22 deg C in September through December. Pink, coho, and chum salmon have all been caught in 14-15 deg C water in July and August, and in September, all six salmon species share part of the same temperature range with neon flying squid (Burgner and Meyer 1983). (Tables 22a and 22b) Over the years the Coast Guard sighted numerous Japanese driftnet vessels fishing north of the boundaries established by Japanese regulations (Gordon 1985). Furthermore, neither the Republic of Korea nor Taiwan are bound by the 1978 Protocol's salmon fishing boundary restrictions, although Taiwan agreed to respect a squid fishing boundary similar to Japan (Gordon 1985) and the ROK established some squid boundaries for its fleet. In 1983, Taiwanese driftnet vessels were reported harvesting significant numbers of North Pacific salmon. In September 1983, following pressure from the INPFC member States, and again in January and June 1984, Taiwan issued a series of directives banning the harvest of salmon on the high seas and restricting the export of salmon from Taiwan (Herrfurth 198<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . The Japanese Ministry of International Trade and Industry began restricting salmon imports from Taiwan in June 1984. <br><br>Despite these restrictions, squid fleets from Japan, the ROK, and Taiwan continued to fish illegally for salmon, taking large quantities before they could reach optimum size or could reproduce. Many of these fish came from coastal hatcheries and represented years of work and investment by their State of origin. Others came from natural stocks being driven to extinction by the combined effects of high seas driftnet fishing and the numerous hydroelectric dams along their spawning routes <br><br>Between 1985 and 1988, the numbers of salmon returning to spawn in Alaska were at all time lows. In 1987, only four million of a 10 year average annual run of 18.5 million fish appeared in the rivers of Southeast Alaska. In 1988 the return of coho salmon to Southeast Alaska hatcheries was only five percent of what was expected. By 1990, the Alaska stocks rebounded somewhat, possibly as a result of the reduction in driftnet fishing in the Bering Sea and the EEZ south of the Aleutian Islands. However, in 1989 and 1990, there were record lows in stocks of salmon returning to spawn in the rivers of Western Canada and the northwest United States, possibly as a result of heavy salmon poaching by the squid fleets beginning in the early 1980s. In April 1994, the Columbia River spring chinook runs collapsed (The Oregonian April 1994). U.S. fisheries biologists estimated that only 19,000 fish would head up river past the Bonneville Dam. Chinook, the largest of the salmon species, spend three to eight years at sea gaining weight. The decimation of these stocks can be attributed not only to the effects of multiple dams along the Columbia River system, but to large-scale driftnet fishing that took place in the North Pacific during 1986 -1991, years of maximum effort by the high seas driftnet fleets. (See also the North Pacific Salmon Driftnet Fisheries and The Enforcement Problem). <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Scientists say White House muzzled them

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:43 pm

WASHINGTON - Two federal agencies are investigating whether the Bush administration tried to block government scientists from speaking freely about global warming and censor their research, a senator said Wednesday.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_go_co/global_warming">more</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Told Ya So....

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:48 am

"I thought of Europe and pressed Spain. I have a Spanish friend so thought any information I could get could be cross-referenced, plus I thought Spain would not be an obvious choice; my knowledge about Spain is limited at best...<br><br>Just by thinking about it, the globe hologram moved around from China to Spain. But, as I went to press Spain, my finger missed and I accidentally pressed the sea just off the coast of Spain. Immediately, a circle of rounded squares rose up from the ocean. Each square revealed a picture of an animal. The first box showed a sea bird, kind of like an eagle, the word extinct appeared next to it, this disappeared and I witnessed a sea lion followed by a fish. The words extinct were next to it; all in English.<br><br>As the fish was shown I thought about the fishing stocks, and again, at the mere thought about fish, high speed data flashed above the earth depicting (again too fast to read) facts and figures concerning the depleted fish resources. I was shown fishing boats pulling in huge amounts of fish, beginning with the coast of Spain then across the Atlantic sea and finally finishing with the whole world. All different types of countries, fishing the oceans, depleting resources.<br><br>The voice behind me spoke in an unemotional matter of fact way, “You see, they won’t stop until there’s nothing left. This is fact”. I weakly replied there must be something that can to be done, I mean, what about international treaties?<br><br>I stared at the destruction and the ‘knock on’ effect. Everything’s connected. One bit of the information I definitely recall depicted was Orcas (killer whales) off the coast of Canada starving because of the lack of salmon. (Again this would not be something that I would think of or would be aware of). This was happening all so fast." <br><br>From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.ufobc.ca/Beyond/prayingmantis3.htm">A Praying Mantis Account - Pt III</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003309888_missingorcas18m.html">3 Orcas Missing from Endangered Pods - 10-18-2006</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>"Orcas are not fully weaned until about age 2, and researchers worry that the calf, described as "healthy and precocious," may not survive the winter.<br><br>The two other missing orcas are from L-pod: L-43, 34-year-old mother of three last seen Sept. 2; and L-71, a 20-year-old male last seen July 15.<br><br>Because the two pods leave sheltered waters for much of the year, "our concern is the coast — what's out there?" he said. "Are there salmon runs they used to rely on that are reduced dramatically?"<br><br>*sighs*<br><br>~C <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Told Ya So....

Postby re_mute » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:01 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:" One bit of the information I definitely recall depicted was Orcas (killer whales) off the coast of Canada starving because of the lack of salmon. ">



"Will "unprecedented collapse" of California salmon leave Washington's vacationing orcas starving?"

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