Vegetarianism

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I know a TON of people who've done Atkins, then eased up slowly and just gone to low carb, then ended up not being able to eat any wheat-based products. It's like their bodies ended up 'forgetting' how to process gluten.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Whoa, so this fad diet might have some consequences?<br>I wonder if there could be a possible agenda? <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

Temple Grantin = templar gin den <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 3/11/06 9:39 pm<br></i>

[Trifecta]

You will all see why eating animals and fish is a BIG problem.<br><br>Soul, spirit and you is the trinity all living creatures are bound by. <br><br>In fact meat and fish eaters have an ickyness to their auric fields, thus deadening their psychic and empathic abilities.<br><br>For me it is a moral issue. <br><br>I have no problem with animal eaters, they do with me tho <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[thurnandtaxis]

I was a vegan for a while, and never caught a cold. Something to due with the lack of excess mucous in my system from dairy products I believe.<br><br>I feel that until "omnivorous" humans make the conscious choice to stop surviving by the bloodshed of animals the <br>planet has no hope of us learning to live peacefully. I believe that it is the result of empathic symptoms that allowing animals to be slaughtered for sustainace helps ease the slaughter of humans, as such bloodshed is seen by extension as being the nature of the human "beast". <br><br>I have for years been trying to find the reference point for a book I had encountered a summary of. All I can remember is that it was written in the 1940's. This man's opinion was <br>that the Ice Age forced the adoption of a meat-based diet upon humanity, and that when the glacial layer receded humanity found out that it could live beyond the abundant<br>equatorial regions and thus were able to survive in harsher climates by increasing their intake of meat. At this time the <br>dying and rising harvest god of the peaceful agrarian peoples became transformed into a redemptive figure who was sacrificed and whose bloodshed provided the same provenance as had been previously the gift of the cyclical fertility/harvest figure. It was also a symptom of animal consumption that the meat rotting in the much longer intestinal tracts of the "omnivorous" human animal released (psychic and physical) toxins. The results being that such discomfort released by decay made humaninty became all the more disagreeable and subsequently violent.<br><br>-That was the gist, I'd love to be able to figure out where I had read it. I came across the mention and quotes sometime in the 90's and had the refering work it in my library -which I unfortunately lost in a fire.<br><br>Anyway it is interesting that the 1980's and 90's saw a huge upswing in vegetarianism amongst gen X and the health culture at large. However, I have noticed that in the last 6 years or so, many have reverted back to meat., some fully, some to chicken, many to fish, vegans to dairy.<br><br>To be sure our conveinience culture is there to tempt constantly.Processed meat is cheaper too than a conveinience based vegetarian diet. Is it that people are too lazy? Tired of being the thorn at family dinners? Or<br>as I suspect, that as the world becomes more chaotic and violent, people want their senses dulled. Is accepting the ritual slaughter of warfare by allowing bloodshed to sustain ourselves a way of becoming conditioned so that killing is seen as being somehow natural for humans and integral to our survival?<br><br>I have started eating fish again. Not all the time. But I am not proud of the fact. <p></p><i></i>

[Gouda]

Chigger, mention of celiac's disease (I do not suffer from that) brings up something Fintan Dunne was on about last year - he claimed to have discovered the secret for true health independence by getting off wheat. He cited the research of "Dogtor J" and Dr. Mercola, and claimed that getting off wheat has had a dramatic effect on his overall wellbeing. (Though it seems to have also triggered an adverse "CIA fakes" reaction). I thought that was interesting so looked through the Mercola/Dogtor J sites and despite finding them rather dodgy in many respects, I attempted to follow their guidelines for some time, refraining totally from wheat/gluten, dairy and soy products. I maintained this for about 3 months (not easy at first, -no pizza! - but you get used to it) and felt pretty good overall - steady energy level, no afternoon lulls, no colds or flu...etc. Who knows. I have had to break this regimen when traveling, but still stick to it more than not. I cheat quite a bit with cheese, especially gouda. However, since I am not convinced by the medical credentials and research of Dogtor J or Dr. Marketing Mercola, I feel more research on this type of diet is warranted. <br><br>As for meat, I have kept it to a minimum and respect those who choose the vegetarian option. I am inclined to make it there myself eventually - unless I can someday manage by raising my own hens or free-range wildebeest. I love veggies. And vino. And grappa. <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

I also tried the famous diet (its not just mercola, whom finally, I don't like...), its now standard diagnosis diet for a variety of medical conditions, and I received it from an MD.<br>I did no wheat, no dairy, no soy, no sugar and no preserved food for a whlie, and I think it is indeed a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>magic diet</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, but really very hard to keep. I used to be a "preacher" for this diet (people couldn't stand it anymore, i was just forcing everyone to try), and especially for children when you can still control their intake. It does have meat, but only organic and fresh. (at least my version allowed it). finally, I think that no wheat and no dairy should suffice for a try, it works wonders on health, mental stability, concentration, moods...the works. <br> <p></p><i></i>