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Postby km artlu » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:08 am

it appears that thursday was a concerted H5N1 media blitz. so similar to music and movie biz marketing. get a buzz rolling over a few weeks and culminate it all on the "street date". <br><br>kinda spooked me, knowing laws are in effect (as if that matters much anymore) to quarantine those refusing vaccination. got me thinking, "well, this is very smooth. i wonder where it goes from here?"<br><br>one bright note, or maybe my wishful thinking: ted koppel began his "nightline" with a montage of clips wherein gwb delivered multiple flu pandemic sound bites, all very recent. it was almost subversive in its effect. like, "here folks, read between the pixels." in a way showing his audience the means of their own manipulation. could this be intentional? <br><br>that brought to mind a bbc katrina report during that first week. the corespondent reeled off a list of government blunders and ineptitude to which the anchorperson responded with something like, "oh, in other words it was a success." this wasn't just weird for me, the field guy didn't know what to do with it, just stumbled to a sign-off. it wasn't a joke attempt, the bbc at least has higher irony standards than that.<br><br>hmm...it's late, i ramble. i guess i'm hoping to generate some comments on both the H5N1 product launch, and wondering if others have spotted any unruliness within the media ranks. <p></p><i></i>
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Avian flu product launch?

Postby ZeroHaven » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:01 am

I'm not sure what part of the world you're in.. but Tamiflu isn't going to help much, and I haven't seen any reports of a vaccine for it yet. Did one just come out yesterday?<br><br>What's been learned in Kazakhstan and Russia is that there's no known transmission of the disease between humans. You can only catch it if you come into direct contact with an infected bird's bodily fluids. (or by breathing in particles of dried feces)<br><br>American poultry aren't generally found grazing outdoors in the flight paths of wild birds. For city dwellers, don't buy exotic birds as pets and you may want to stay away from pigeons. <br>The real epidemic could occur in Europe where there's lots of free-range chicken farms but everyone's already preparing for the worst and taking lots of precautions.<br>--<br>As for the media weirdness, I've been hearing only one phrase repeatedly.. "first in XX history". Everything that's been happening that's newsworthy just seems to be the first time in the history (or several hundred years) of US, world, courts, etc. to have happened.<br>From the internet TV I get, I do agree the normally matter-of-fact news anchors are starting to be more obvious with their opinions than I've seen in a long time. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Avian flu product launch?

Postby dbeach » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:09 am

I will pass on any govt ordered vaccines ..but any DC pols may have my dose <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Avian flu product launch?

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:56 am

km artlu, I caught that show last night, too. It had a very "staged" feel to it, as in "setting the stage". Not sure why, but it reminded me of the anthrax scare after 9/11. It's possible that the admin is just needing a distraction from all the other stuff that's got their collective body part caught in the meat grinder right now.<br><br>Do any of the Bushes have stock in the vaccine-producing corporations here or overseas? <p></p><i></i>
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Carliars group

Postby dbeach » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:46 pm

has their hands in every dirty pot literraly speaking and is fast to grab those tax giveaways called govt contracts..This is the heart of the bush criminals power in the USA .My bet is most of it is a CIA front for the bush renagade loyalists.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Carlyle%20Group">archive.democrats.com/pre...le%20Group</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>"Making a Killing: the Dark and Ongoing Story of BioPort and the Anthrax Vaccine<br>12-Aug-02<br>Carlyle Group<br>Since the first anthrax attack, one story has been notably absent from the mainstream press — a story that should be pushed front and center onto the public stage along with Enron, WorldCom and the rest of the "glowing examples" of corporate greed and extortion. It is the story of BioPort, a modest-sized maker of vaccines in Lansing, Michigan that is owned in large part by the Carlyle Group. As we all know, the Carlyle Group is a haven for ex-government powermongers like George H. W. Bush, James Baker III, and Frank Carlucci, who use their Bush family ties to channel billions of dollars into their own coffers in the name of "government contracts." What it really amounts to is a slick money laundering operation: the Group's contacts in the Pentagon (right now their best friend is Donald Rumsfeld) steal money from the tax paper and funnel it into Carlyle's various operations and call it a "contract." We demand a Special Prosecutor for Carlyle!"<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Avian flu product launch?

Postby * » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:48 pm

<br> Nevertheless zero, we are coming upon <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>regular</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> flu season at the moment and anything that will help herd the jittery general public toward a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>safe haven™</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> will be used. Last flu season was a lousy one for BigPharma and you could view all these annual fear-calls as a dress-rehearsal. Anyone notice all the dog-flu going around? Said to be 'epidemic'.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/open_letters/open_letter_reaction.htm">Dr Rath</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> thinks 911 was engineered by BigPharma. I don't go that far but you gotta wonder why it was Bayer's cipro ( an expensive, patented antibiotic with serious side-effects ) what got chose for the 'anthrax episode' rather than the off-patent, less dangerous ones actually listed in the PDR as best-choice for the condition.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Avian flu product launch?

Postby dbeach » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:58 pm

BTW Carliars has bought a cipro company through one its th subsidieries and also the robot soldiers contracts from some Brit company.<br><br>that sounds very scary together. <p></p><i></i>
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re: Carliars Group: Blair's 'payback' offer?

Postby Starman » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:37 pm

I want to bloody damn scream -- in between bouts of revulsion and wanting to puke -- at the immense, horrific outrages (and how arrogantly transparant it all is) being perpetrated by the clique of dynastic moneygrubbing warmongers who have seized and wielded power and who are holding the world hostage to their scams and schemes and rackets -- as evident in this latest wrinkle in their quid pro quo tasty back-door boardroom deal-making compensation package tendered for services rendered -- The illustrious Tony Blair may reportedly be going to 'work' (officially, as opposed to his current covert 'assistance') when he 'retires' on 2007 at the Carlyle Group -- continuing the well-blood-soaked practice and tradition of trading-off political favors in the revolving door neo-(con)Fascist racket of civil-service and military-industrial careerism -- as exemplified to remarkable extent most notably by Herr Cheney of Halliburton 'fame', and Bush senior.<br><br>Goodly fudging Crisco!<br><br>These Bastards think nothing of threatening the world with their violence to advance their ego-driven selfish interests and serve their well-shielded, behind-the-scenes hidden masters.<br><br>The contemptable, mocking insult such naked ambition and opportunism poses to the ideals of authentic democracy, social justice and peace is beyond the ready use of words to adequately describe -- Goebels and Eichmann had nothing on these guys.<br><br>If Jesus can forgive these reptilian-hearted foul-reeking slugs, he's a far better guy than I am <extreme tragi-ironic cynical sarcasm>.<br><br>Ah, fuggit. The Bright New Dawn of a Better World, when it finally arrives to burn-away the darkness and horrors of the present eon with its intense, healing Light, will be all the greater for the gloom and hurt of these and coming days. (I HAVE to believe this).<br><br>Come SOON!<br>Starman<br>****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/250805blairexpected.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...pected.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Tony Blair Expected to Join Carlyle Group<br><br>London Mirror | August 25 2005<br><br>TONY Blair is expected to join one of the most exclusive groups of businessmen in the world after he leaves Downing Street. <br><br>The PM is being lined up for a highly lucrative position with the Carlyle Group - an American-based investment giant with strong links to the White House and the defence industry. <br><br>The firm has been nicknamed "The Ex-Presidents Club" because it has had a host of former world leaders on its books including George Bush Senior, his former secretary of state James Baker and former British PM John Major. There a also a large number of former US Army top brass. <br><br>Mr Blair has been keeping quiet about his plans after his departure from Number 10 - which could be as early as 2007 according to some Labour insiders. <br><br>But sources in the City have revealed that he is "seriously considering" a high-profile role with Carlyle - which manages $30billion (£20million) of investments worldwide. <br><br>The job could net Mr Blair up to £500,000 a year for only a few days work a month giving speeches and making "networking" trips on behalf of the company. <br><br>The move comes after it emerged that the premier's financial affairs are in an increasingly perilous state. His dream home has crashed in value by £700,000 in just seven months and he and Cherie have to find £13,000 a month for the mortgage. <br><br>The £3million loan the couple took out to buy the house in London's Connaught Square is 17 times Mr Blair's current salary. <br><br>Last night one leading City source said: "Private equity firms don't come any more powerful than Carlyle. It would be a huge coup for them if they could bring Tony Blair on board. <br><br>"But the job is likely to infuriate MPs and campaigners opposed to Britain's role in the Iraq War because of Carlyle's strong links to the defence industry." <br><br>A senior Government source admitted: "We know that Tony is looking at a number of options for life after Downing Street including writing his memoirs. <br><br>"But taking certain jobs could present the Labour Party with a large headache, particularly with firms investing in the US arms industry. <br><br>"We are trying to move links with the US and the Iraq War down the agenda - and linking up with a firm like Carlyle could reopen all those wounds." <br><br>At one time, Carlyle's multi-million pound investors included Saudi members of the estranged family of al-Qaeda warlord Osama bin Laden, who have disowned him. But the family have not been involved with the group for several years. <br><br>It has been criticised for using George Bush Senior to help land business deals in the Middle East while advising the American President on sensitive issues in the region at the same time. <br><br>City experts believe Mr Blair would be ideally suited to the investment world because he has "the charm to schmooze almost anyone", according to one financier in the Square Mile. <br><br>The PM would have the added advantage of having met many of the world leaders with whom Carlyle is keen to do business. <br><br>But friends of Mr Blair insist he is considering other money-making options after leaving frontline politics. <br><br>They include a lecture tour in the United States which could net him more than £1million and the possibility of a visiting professorship at an American university. <br><br>Job.. Bush Snr White House <br><br>HOW THE FIRM HAS LINKS AT THE TOP<br><br>THE Carlyle Group is an American private investment firm which has branches across the world. <br><br>It was named after the Carlyle Hotel in New York - although it made its headquarters in Washington DC. <br><br>A range of former US leaders either work for the company or invest in it including Frank Carlucci, President Ronald Reagan's former Defence Secretary. <br><br>Former US President George Bush Senior was also involved with the huge corporation, but he left two years ago. <br>****<br>more:<br><br>Independent Media Center | www.tampaindymedia.org | ((( i )))<br>TONY BLAIR TO JOIN $30BN CARLYLE GROUP (Imagine That)?!! <br>PM Author: Exclusive By Rupert Hamer London Sunday Mirror ...<br>tampabay.indymedia.org/bin/site/templates/ default.asp?area_2=imc/open%20newswire/2005/Aug/44859.109375.dat <br><br>NuLabour: Tony Blair, the Carlyle Group and Qinetiq<br>Tony Blair, the Carlyle Group and Qinetiq. The Sunday Mirror speculated about Prime Minister Tony Blair's plans for a propserous retirement. ...<br>www.spy.org.uk/nulabour/ archives/2005/08/tony_blair_the.html <br><br>- SourceWatch. "Tony Blair, the Carlyle Group and Qinetiq," (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spy.org.uk/nulabour/archives/2005/08/tony_blair_the.html)">www.spy.org.uk/nulabour/a..._the.html)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> NuLabour, August 24, 2005. ...<br>www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tony_Blair <br><br>truthout - Blair Expected to Join Carlyle Group<br>Tony Blair is expected to join one of the most exclusive groups of businessmen in<br>... 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TONY Blair is expected to join one of the most exclusive groups of businessmen in the world ...<br>www.able2know.com/forums/about58070.html <br><br>IS BLAIR OFF TO JOIN THE CARLYLE GROUP?<br>TONY Blair is expected to join one of the most exclusive groups of ... THE Carlyle Group is an American private investment firm which has branches across ...<br>www.infowars.com/articles/ nwo/carlyle_group_blair_join.htm <br><br>Discussion Community: Tony Blair expected to join Carlyle Group<br>Author, Topic: Tony Blair expected to join Carlyle Group ... blair will feel very much at home with his friends in the carlyle group ...<br>www.thomhartman.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ ubb/get_topic/f/13/t/000586/p/1.html <br><br>Democrats.com -- Will Blair Be the Carlyle Group's Poodle Boy? ... (The Sunday Mirror) Tony Blair is expected to join one of the most exclusive groups of businessmen in the ...<br>www.democrats.com/node/5803 <br><br>Blair Expected to Join Carlyle Group. 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The Carlyle Group is an American private investment firm which has branches across ...<br>www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082305B.shtml <br><br>Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | The ex-presidents' club<br>The offices of the Carlyle Group are on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC, midway between the White ... 21.09.2001: Tony Blair's reading in New York ...<br>www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,583869,00.html <br><br>What Did Eisenhower Mean When He Warned of a Military Industrial ...<br>BUZZFLASH: If we were looking at the Carlyle Group -- aside from its ... <br>So Tony Blair essentially condoned the privatization of a large section ...<br>www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/06/23_briody.html <br><br>Tony Blair’s bin Laden dossier: a pretext instead of proof ... says it is estranged from Osama—is an investor in a fund established by the Carlyle Group, ...<br>www.wsws.org/articles/2001/oct2001/binn-o06.shtml <br><br>Sherman Skolnick's Report<br>[3] Instrumental in the Bush/Blair Affair was Carlyle Group, having on its ...<br>The 16 Billion Dollars, in Kuwaiti Dinars, was to benefit Tony Blair through...<br>www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar28.html <br><br>News From Underground: Blair to join Carlyle Group. 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flu

Postby Gouda » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:33 pm

remember last year's flu vaccine shortage scare in the US, due to a fudged order from Britain, again a result of incompetence? correct my memory, but i think that was the gist of it. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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my guess

Postby glubglubglub » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:08 pm

people are gonna start dieing en masse at some point in the future, and the avian flu is a believable cover...<br><br>Not saying they won't be dieing from a (modified?) avian flu, but b/c the currrent incarnation of that flue is a plausible threat best to inculcate people's minds with it now. <p></p><i></i>
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Vaccines and Corruption

Postby antiaristo » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:09 pm

There WAS a major scaandal two or three years ago involving Blair and vaccines (which may connect with Gouda's comment above). A donor paid 1/2 million pounds to the Labour Party and a few months later received a monopoly no competition contract for ALL the supplies of UK anthrax vaccine.<br><br>They screwed up the contract and the vaccine was unusable. But the company floated and the owner made a TON of money.<br>Then Mr Blair made him a peer - I think it is Lord Drayton(?)<br><br>This article gives a feel for the circumstances surrounding Mr Blair<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:small;">Blair is doomed to suffer death by a thousand kiss and tells</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><br>Lance Price's diary shows that the cronies and hangers-on inside No 10 will sell its secrets to the highest bidder <br><br>Simon Jenkins<br>Friday September 30, 2005<br>The Guardian <br><br><br>Damn. I was writing a column on the need to curb free speech. I thought Tony Blair should have stopped Lance Price, his former aide, from publishing his book, The Spin Doctor's Diary. Even prime ministers must have a right to some short-term privacy in their private conversation.<br>The ink was hardly dry, but Blair's party conference thugs were doing a heavy job on an 82-year-old man for shouting "nonsense" at the foreign secretary. Walter Wolfgang was mildly heckling Jack Straw for justifying unprovoked military aggression.<br><br>As luck would have it, Wolfgang was a refugee from Nazi Germany. When he felt the hand of "security" on his collar, I wonder if his mind flashed back to his youth. The incident recalls a New Yorker cartoon of a Nuremburg rally. It has the Führer beginning his speech: "I think I may say without fear of contradiction?"<br><br>What was outrageous was not the ejection as such - insecure politicians have always feared hecklers - but the use of anti-terrorism powers. It now seems instinctive to the police to assume that an elderly heckler has terrorist intent. It is exactly the syndrome that killed Jean Charles de Menezes in the London tube.<br><br>Next year's "shoot-to-kill" anti-free-speech law will enable the police to throw people such as Wolfgang into prison for giving "unintentional encouragement" to any political violence. Lord Falconer said on Sunday that the powers will be enforced "reasonably". Like in Brighton on Wednesday? Does that mean Falconer will arrest only regius professors of history?<br><br>Ian McCartney, the Labour party chairman, should not have bothered to apologise to Wolfgang. He should have summoned Blair, Straw, Charles Clarke and Falconer and told them to get their tanks off Labour's lawn. They had already turned his conference into little short of a police rally. The whole thing was near Mosleyite. Blair and co should abandon their totalitarian laws or he, McCartney, will suspend their party membership forthwith.<br><br>Back to Price, the Walter Wolfgang of sofa government. His latest raspberry at Downing Street sets a new standard in political kiss-and-tell. Whitehall tried, halfheartedly, to get it suppressed. The cabinet secretary, Sir Andrew Turnbull, declared the whole book "completely unacceptable" and made a series of juicy cuts. Price was thus able to use them as an 18-certificate trailer in the Daily Mail, flagged the "Allegations They Tried to Ban". I suspect that Turnbull, no friend of Blair's "democracy", knew exactly what he was doing.<br><br>Price claims his revelations reflect his "passionate belief that unnecessary secrecy about how our government works is bad, not just for the people in whose name it operates but for government itself". This presumably refers to aides copulating on Blair's sofa, Blair abusing "the fucking Welsh" and his "relishing" sending troops into action.<br><br>The book is a savage money-spinner at Blair's expense. It is a diary of events in the last three years of the 1997 parliament, offering a first-person account of spinners at work. The portrait of the Blair-Campbell duumvirate is so breathtakingly cynical as to be near implausible. Every day is an exercise in trying to write the following morning's front pages. It convinces me that Campbell's talent lay not in using the power of Downing Street to corrupt the press (an easy task) but in using the power of the press to corrupt Downing Street. At this he was astonishingly successful.<br><br>Campbell is the diaries' evil genius. He clearly regards Blair as a fool - the word is more obscene - loathing the public sector and obsessed by his future income. Campbell dominates every decision, holding most ministers in contempt and using them as initiative factories to get Blair out of some new scrape, be it on drugs, asylum seekers, binge drinkers or whatever. Blair emerges "effing and blinding", vacillating, charming, opportunist, chaotic, above all thick.<br><br>Price is not the first so to describe Blair and his entourage. We can read similar material from Rentoul, Rawnsley, Naughtie, Seldon, Kampfner, Scott, Riddell, Oborne and others. But most rely on such devices as "an insider said" and can be taken with pinches of salt.<br><br>The new book is closer to Washington memoirs in flaunting oratio recta. The intimacy of Price's revelations is what gives them force. They intrude into the innermost sanctum of sofa government, the off-message exchanges of those present. No indiscretion is sacred - or so we must assume.<br><br>Blair is said to be upset by Price's disloyalty. But it was Blair who wanted to staff his office with media hangers-on, not civil servants. The latter may have shortcomings but are bound by oaths of secrecy and job security. A crony's loyalty is only to his boss. When that wanes, he has nothing to sell but his secrets. Since their price is in direct proportion to their sensationalism, the temptation to dish the dirt must be overwhelming.<br><br>Blair's reputation seems doomed to inundation by memoir. So far this has been limited to dissidents such as Geoffrey Robinson, Mo Mowlam and Clare Short. Iraq is about to unleash the literary equivalent of Operation Shock and Awe on Blair, not least from soldiers seething with rage at its present direction. But Blair's closest circle is the real danger, since it is best placed to turn his innermost weaknesses into cash.<br><br>Geoff Mulgan, the former Downing Street policy chief, remarked recently on Radio 4 that there is "nothing more corrosive to the quality of decision-making than a ... culture in which every participant is secretly writing their diary". It was not just Blair's disdain for his cabinet that has emasculated it but rather the unprecedented presence of a press officer, Campbell, known to be keeping a diary and leaking against any minister who stepped out of line.<br><br>Nobody likes his private conversations revealed to others. Even prime ministers must be able to relax with aides, swear, panic, insult colleagues and abuse the Welsh. If close aides cannot "speak truth to power" in confidence, they will not speak it at all. When Campbell told Price to remember, "Life is on the record", he was really saying that in Blair's Downing Street it was "me Tarzan, you sycophant".<br><br>It is hopeless to censor kiss-and-tell memoirs once they are written. But Mulgan must be right in suggesting that prime ministers who bring personal staff into their office would be wise to make it a condition of service that no revelatory memoir be published at least until all involved are out of power. This is not to protect their feelings, rather to guard the quality of decisions at the centre.<br><br>Instant memoirs have changed since the old days. Lord Whitelaw was horrified to be told that his were "interesting". Now they are lethal documents, a first draft of revenge. They drove Reagan to use ever more dangerous "back channels". They forced Thatcher into a clique that led to her eventual downfall. They are imprisoning Blair in a hall of mirrors.<br><br>Any journalist has a professional interest in disclosure. But good government must have an interest in upholding confidence at its heart. Otherwise everyone will start playing to the gallery and acting the book. In this tiny respect, Blair is not secretive enough. There is time to kiss and tell later.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1581336,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/commen...36,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It needs to be said: Campbell (the man who hounded David Kelly to death) was possessed of royal prerogative powers while he was Blair's press secretary. That is the REAL REASON cabinet ministers were terrified of him.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: product launch

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:10 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ted koppel began his "nightline" with a montage of clips wherein gwb delivered multiple flu pandemic sound bites, all very recent.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->I<br><br> I've been thinking of this today, began to think about a news piece this morning on local tv featuring the Republican sock puppet Talet from Missouri blathering away about how the feds are working on a plan to help the LOCALS deal with another big New Madrid earthquake. Is it just coincidence that Bush would make four remarks about the potential flu pandemic at the same time the sock puppet postures on about the need to have a preparedness plan to deal with a possible earthquake in the Midwest? Is it all a piece of a plan? <p></p><i></i>
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heh more selling:

Postby glubglubglub » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:09 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050816/b081692.html">www.cbc.ca/cp/business/05...81692.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>What's interesting to note is the absence of historical perspective...viz, post black-plague europe was a wonderful place to be for the survivors, at least economically: it's doubtful that the ball that ultimately led to the formation of the middle class would have gotten rolling in a plagueless europe. This article is doom and gloom throughout...<br><br>So maybe it's just a function of the target audience -- it's bad enough telling a bunch of wealthy investors "this flu thing could leave your assets in shambles", just try telling them that and "and the remaining surviving workers will have bargaining power like you've not seen in your life" -- or if you're inclined to a more conspiratorial take here, a function of the fact that the survivors aren't going to be working-class. <p></p><i></i>
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