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Does anyone know if modern anti-depressants have active ingredients apart from the SSRI, for example an old fashioned emotion suppressant along the lines of vallium. <br><br>I took them about five years ago for a short time, felt like a zombie and quit.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=scollon>scollon</A> at: 1/15/06 2:18 pm<br></i>

I've been reading the book <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Talking Back To Prozac</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> lately, about SSRIs. <br><br>Chemically, SSRIs are just SSRIs. However, some seem to affect more neurochemicals than others. Zoloft, for instance, affects dopamine and epinephrine as well as serotonin. <br><br>The book is very interesting, and includes cases where users have reported experiencing the effects as an altered state similar to amphetamines, or other street drugs. Some people report effects outside the norm, in terms of being able to feel the effects after a single use, or only a few uses. The usual line about SSRIs is that they need to be taken for 1-3 weeks before experiencing a noticeable effect.<br><br>Other people get effects like you've reported- they get zombified by it.<br><br>I once had a customer in my cab who was in a really bright euphoric mood. She talked about getting a high high from Prozac- and alcohol, with which she mixed it quite cheerfully. It was a Friday evening...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Best to check medical websites for information about ingredients. Once you've researched it thoroughly, discuss your own personal needs with a medical professional with whom you can talk to face-to-face, not anonymous posters on a bulletin board who don't know your medical history.<br><br>There are a lot of different anti-depressants, and they can behave differently due to dosages, interactions with other medications, and your own particular biochemistry at that particular time. What works for one person may not work in the same way for the next person.<br><br>Many studies have shown that cognitive behavior therapy can be as effective as drug therapy when dealing with depression.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cognitivetherapy.com/basics.html">www.cognitivetherapy.com/basics.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

i tried SSRI for a week and was brought to the ER with sever dehydration and i was vomitting even intake of water. Apparently some people cannot use these medications at all. i don't think anyone really knows what these medications do. its a trial/error situation. I would not recommend it to anyone, if I nearly died, than something in it is dangerous. <p></p><i></i>

are you wondering about what else might be in there that's not on the offical list of ingredients? I've sure never heard of anyone getting the pills independently anaylised for contents.<br>...but what you report isn't all that uncommon a reaction. They seem to just try different pills at near random 'til one seems to 'work' for the patient. but that's just me talking, avalon is right about taking medical advice from random posters. <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Zoloft, for instance, affects dopamine and epinephrine as well as serotonin.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I remembered, Zoloft isn't an SSRI, it does affect dopamine. It was Prozac I took (UK trade name was different obiously).<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> don't think anyone really knows what these medications do<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Exactly, I asked to be put on myself which was dumb. I wouldn't take anything on the say so of a family doctor.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Many studies have shown that cognitive behavior therapy can be as effective as drug therapy when dealing with depression.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I'm doing that now but it's a government provided practitioner. If I'd bought him, I'd send him back <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>are you wondering about what else might be in there that's not on the offical list of ingredients? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yes, that as well but more if there were ingredientsI hadn't heard of or weren't publicised. <p></p><i></i>

it sounds really simple but getting enough deep restfull sleep is very important when dealing with this.<br><br>For anyone interested here's a site with some good info in a thing they call their Depression Learning Path. It's an information based intervention aproach based on some recent non-drug based treatment research.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/index.htm">Depression Learning Path</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

I had a good friend who was prescribed prozac when it just came out, and a few weeks later he went amoc, attacked his best friend, and luckily instead of killing him, his fist went into the windshielf window. he needed medical attention but he didn't end up in jail. <br>Seroxat is "unofficially" prescribed by obgyns to women with PMS moods, they take it 5 days before the menstrual date, and it alleviates the stress, and then stop it and start again only 5 days before D day. it was discovered accidentally. It proves that the medication has immediate effects contrary to what it indicated in official publications.<br><br>depression...ah, what a eurocentric privilege...<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Yes I'm sure you're right for people with repressed anger / violent tendencies (like myself).<br><br>"depression...ah, what a eurocentric privilege..."<br><br>Maybe not <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Depression will be the second leading cause of death by 2020, predicts the World Health Organization. Many blame increasing job and relationship insecurity for the rise in mental illness<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/485176.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/485176.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Call for action over Third World depression<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Health experts should take urgent action to press for better treatment of depression in the developing world, where mental health accounts for less than 1% of most countries' health budgets. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/492941.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/492941.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=scollon>scollon</A> at: 1/15/06 3:19 pm<br></i>

repressed anger / violent tendencies (like myself).<br><br><br>repressed ?<br> are you presenting a new type of a passive agressive holocaust denier then ? <br>----------<br><br>Surely, the APA would love to forcefully apply the mental health definition on the whole world, and in fact I just read an expose about a semi secret plan for next year by APA to "universalize" the DSM and enforce it all over the world, which seems very scary. (they started pilot programs in about 10 countries now, assigning each country with a "symptom" to work on).<br><br>Naturally, it would be nicer to call all the starving africans dying of HIV, "depressed" and gracefully provide them with some "trauma memory erasing" pills or something, so their death is made pleasant, and somewhat cheerful. I can already see the debate in american TV - "is it actually immoral to send someone to another dimension with a "happy death pill" rather than let them slowly go to their inevitable death by hunger ?"<br>Is death really that bad if the brain doesn't know it is dying ? or something...or, are we doing them a favor by harvesting their organs ? (Pat robertson on the resurrection of the dead).<br>---<br><br>I actually keep hearing this surreal argumentation already in Israel, and it does bring Orwell 1984 to mind. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

RR..Lemmee guess...she was going to be an actress and you were going to learn to fly...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>are you presenting a new type of a passive agressive holocaust denier then ? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>How well you know me on such little acquaintance. I prefer revisionist but only to buttress my ego .<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>APA would love to forcefully apply the mental health definition on the whole world<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yes for the sole purpose of selling drugs to them.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=scollon>scollon</A> at: 1/15/06 6:04 pm<br></i>

The reason for your smear...<br><br>repressed ?<br>are you presenting a new type of a passive agressive holocaust denier then ? <br><br>with regard to Scollon.<br><br>Just curious.! <p></p><i></i>

It is a bit of a joke based on my own past statements, no offence taken. <p></p><i></i>