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<br><br> I think anyone with half an ounce of decent research capability in them, can work out exactly who Bayer are, and their ties to the usual fucking suspects.<br><br> Still a "Grand Conspiracy" too far ?<br> <br> These people are killing us in absolutely shameless fashion, whilst making a few bucks in the process.<br><br> Who are "these people"<br><br> Answers on a "non existent illuminati" thread. <p></p><i></i>

Wow, I hadn't heard about that. Looks like those claims go back a ways. Here's more:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bayer Documents: AIDS Tainted Blood Killed Thousands of Hemophiliacs</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/0503/22.php">www.ahrp.org/infomail/0503/22.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Thu, 22 May 2003<br><br>An examination of internal Bayer company documents by The New York Times reveals that the company was engaged in unsavory, probably criminal marketing practices. The documents reveal that Bayer continued to sell contaminated blood plasma causing thousands of hemophiliac patients to be infected with AIDS. The company continued to sell the contaminated blood in Asia for over a year when it had already introduced a safer, heated blood plasma version in the US and Europe in February 1984.<br><br>The documents examined by the Times provide evidence of unrestrained corrupt practices by a pharmaceutical industry giant. According to The Times, records suggest that the reason for continuing to sell an AIDS infected blood product, was to get rid of inventory and "the company hoped to preserve the profit margin from 'several large fixed-price contracts.'"<br><br>This previously uninvestigated case demonstrates how this industry's lies and crimes are shielded by officials at the Food and Drug Administration. The Times reports that in 1985 FDA's Dr. Harry Meyer willingly helped Bayer cover up "one of the worst drug-related medical disasters in history." Meyer suggested that the issue should be "quietly solved without alerting the Congress, the medical community and the public." This culture of accommodation continues to prevail at the FDA.<br><br>The case also demonstrates Bayer's racial elitism. Its lethal marketing policies disregard human lives. The mother of a 22 year old hemophiliac who was killed by Bayer's tainted product in Hong Kong put it this way: "they did not care about the lives in Asia. It was racial discrimination."<br><br>The Times reports that three other American pharmaceutical companies were involved in selling tainted blood plasma after a safer version existed: Armour Pharmaceutical, Baxter International and Alpha Therapeutic.<br><br>American taxpayers have awarded unprecedented, generous financial subsidies to this industry--no other has extended patent rights as does this industry. In return they have been deceived, believing that drug company officials care about alleviating suffering and improving people's health, and that the FDA protects them from tainted products. In fact, this industry has repeatedly shown that profits matter more than human livesóeven less valued are the lives in underdeveloped countries.<br><br>Currently, Bayer--through its subsidiary, Bayer CropScience--is applying pressure on the Environmental Protection Agency in an effort to lower the standards for pesticide contamination. Bayer has conducted unethical human pesticide experiments and wants the EPA to accept the data from those trials. The nature and purpose of such wholly nontherapeutic experiments violate The Nuremberg Code which was adopted in 1947 to protect human beings from potentially lethal, non-medical experiments.<br><br>See: Sunday Times (UK) Bayer promoting human pesticide experiments:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/0103/15.php">www.ahrp.org/infomail/0103/15.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Sunday Herald (UK)<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/0902/09.php">www.ahrp.org/infomail/0902/09.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>See also, NYT Bayerís tactics in marketing Baycol:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/0303/01.php">www.ahrp.org/infomail/0303/01.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>For additional documentation about Bayer corrupt practices see the German watchdog group, Coalition Against Bayer Dangers (CBG): <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbgnetwork.org/home/Newsletter_KCB/newsletter_kcb.html">www.cbgnetwork.org/home/N...r_kcb.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <p></p><i></i>

Fucking bastards. <br><br>The world's gone mad. <p></p><i></i>

There are so many outrages going on, I don't know where to start.<br><br>A little light shone on them and they just keep on keeping on with business as usual. <br><br>Corrupt from the top down, just like every other major corporation in this country. <br><br>Are there ANY good guys with some power?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

"Are there ANY good guys with some power?"<br><br>You. <p></p><i></i>

Wintler,<br><br>You are absolutely right! <p></p><i></i>

That is a good question. I often wonder myself? I know it may seem naive, but you have to assume there are forces of good at work as well. Maybe the evil is just more obvious. It has more bells and wistles. <br><br>I talk about this kind of stuff with my mother often, who is an eternal optimist, and while she's pretty much on board, she can't fathom what would motivate people to orchestrate murder on such a grand scale simply for profit. I have to admit, I wonder too. At what point is it enough? What motivates a Dick Cheney? Could he really be some sort of demon? I mean, I don't really believe in such things, but if they are really doing what we think they are doing, the motivation really has to be something beyond simple profit. <br><br>By the way, I've been reading R.A. Wilson's "Cosmic Trigger" lately, and I find it kind of uplifting, his optimistic attitude about the future of human consciousness and such. I guess that was going on 30 years ago now, but I'd bet he's still an optimist, even in the face of all this. <br><br>Glad I came to the discussion board, I was starting to worry that something had happened to Jeff. <p></p><i></i>

Bayer are outrageous criminal scum and have a notorious history of using the masses as disposible guinea pigs.<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://archive.corporatewatch.org/profiles/bayer/bayer5.htm">Bayer's Legacy of Crime</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mass-Producing Heroin</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>In 1898, Bayer trademarked the opiate diacetylmorphine, giving it the name Heroin. Although the chemist C.R. Wright discovered the mixture of morphine and acetic acid, Bayer was the first company to mass-produce it. Bayer began an advertising campaign in 1900, praising the product across the globe in 12 languages, and sending thousands of free samples to doctors. Bayer advertised heroin as a cough medicine for children, saying it was harmless and even that it helped cure colic. Ironically, methadone the synthetic morphine substitute commonly used to treat heroin addiction was developed by Hoescht branch of IG Farben during the WW2 as Dolophine.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bayer, IG Farben and World War II: Slave Labour and Deadly Gas</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Bayer (along with BASF and Hoechst) was an original member of the IG Farben group. During WWII, IG Farben built a synthetic rubber and oil plant complex called Monowitz close to the Auschwitz concentration camp. Inmates worked as slave labour for IG Farben, and when they were too weak to work they were killed in the gas chambers. IG Farben subsidiary Degesch manufactured Zyklon B, the gas used in the concentration camp gas chambers.<br><br>Bayer head Carl Duisberg personally propagated the concept of forced labour during WW1. The company placed itself under a large burden of guilt due to its heavy involvement in the planning, preparation and implementation of both world wars. The International War Crimes Tribunal pronounced the company guilty for its share of responsibility in the war and the crimes of the Nazi dictatorship.<br><br>On 29 July 1948, sentences for mass murder and slavery were handed down at the Nuremberg trials to twelve Farben executives. The longest sentence of only seven years was dealt out was to Dr. Fritz ter Meer, a top executive and scientist on the IG Farben managing board.<br><br>After the war, IG Farben separated into three giant corporations: Bayer, Hoechst and BASF. On 1 August 1963, Bayer celebrated its 100th anniversary at the Cologne fairgrounds. The opening speech was delivered by Dr. Fritz ter Meer, not only out of prison but - a convicted mass murderer -elevated to the position of Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Bayer.<br><br>More than eight million people had to do slave work for the Nazi war industry, and none ever received compensation from the companies or the government. David Fishel, one of the few survivors of the camp, sued the companies for compensation. When he was 13 he was forced to work for IG Farben carrying 50-kilo bags of coal and cement when he weighed only 75 pounds.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bayer, IG Farben and Human Experiments</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>IG Farben also conducted experiments on humans. Eva Mozes Kor, among the 1,500 sets of twins experimented on by the infamous Dr. Josef Mengele, claims that IG Farben monitored and supervised medical experiments at the Nazi concentration camp where she was interned. She claims the experiments involved toxic chemicals that IG Farben (Bayer) provided. In some of the experiments, the lawsuit states, prisoners were injected with germs known to cause diseases, "to test the effectiveness of various drugs" manufactured by IG Farben. Mengele conducted genetic experiments there in an effort to create a super race of blonde, blue-eyed Aryans who would be born in multiple births. Both Kor and her sister survived their 10-month ordeal in the concentration camp and were liberated by Soviet troops in January 1945. They were nearly 10 years old. According to Irwin Levin (Kor's Lawyer), IG Farben paid Nazi officials during World War II for access to those confined in the camps and collaborated in Nazi experiments as a form of research and development. The lawsuit sought unspecified punitive damages and the recovery of profits it maintains IG Farben (Bayer) earned as a result of such research.<br><br>Eventually Eva Kor and various others were paid out of a fund put up by the German government and the companies. Bayer gave 100 million German Marks to the fund. The entire fund (totalling 10 billion German Marks) was a result of various American lawsuits - without the loss of reputation in the US the companies would never have agreed.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bayer and the Congo War</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>A recent report commissioned by the UN Secretary General stated that the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) centred on the control of five mineral resources, including colombite-tantalite or coltan. Coltan is a hardening agent for metal used in the manufacture of electrical products. In October a report listed H.C. Starck (a wholly owned subsidiary of Bayer AG), as the buyer of over 80% of the coltan originating in the DRC. By purchasing coltan from one or other of the warring factions in the DRC, H.C. Starck have been fuelling the two-year conflict. The fighting has killed over 250,000 people, and a million people have been displaced in East Congo.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

<br><br> Or should that be Bauer ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

This case is old news and bears alot of passing similarities to The Constant Gardner.. <p></p><i></i>

Check the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'Bayer's Legacy of Crime'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Link on my post, there's a lot more with additional links. <p></p><i></i>

slimmous, I don't get your implication. What does "Bauer" have to do with Bayer? Please be explicit. <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>slimmous, I don't get your implication. What does "Bauer" have to do with Bayer? Please be explicit.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Ah ....the irony.<br><br> No dig at you personally chiggerbit.<br><br> "Give me control of a nations finances, and I care not who makes the laws"<br><br> See what you get from that quote.......and then do some digging. <p></p><i></i>

No, I would prefer an express explanation from you. I hate dealing in vague implications. <p></p><i></i>