Vatican investigation seeks 'evidence of homosexuality'

by **emad** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:17 pm

Vatican investigation seeks 'evidence of homosexuality' The review of U.S. institutions follows a series of sex abuse cases By LAURIE GOODSTEIN New York Times Investigators appointed by the Vatican have been instructed to review each of the 229 Roman Catholic seminaries in the United States for "evidence of homosexuality" and for faculty members who dissent from church teaching, according to a document prepared to guide the process. The Vatican document, given to the New York Times last week by a priest who was granted anonymity because he feared retribution, surfaces as Catholics await a Vatican ruling on whether homosexuals should be barred from the priesthood. In a possible indication of the ruling's contents, the American archbishop who is supervising the seminary review said earlier this month that "anyone who has engaged in homosexual activity, or has strong homosexual inclinations," should not be admitted to a seminary. Edwin O'Brien, archbishop for the U.S. military, told the National Catholic Register that the restriction should apply even to those who had not been sexually active for a decade or more. American seminaries are under Vatican review as a result of the sexual abuse scandal that swept the priesthood in 2002. Church officials in the United States and Rome agreed that they wanted to take a closer look at how seminary candidates were screened for admission and whether they were being prepared for lives of chastity and celibacy. Gay seminarians and priests have come under particular scrutiny because a study commissioned by the church found last year that about 80 percent of the young people victimized by priests were boys. Experts in human sexuality have cautioned that homosexuality and attraction to children are different and that a disproportionate percentage of boys may have been abused because priests were more likely to have access to male targets

by **chiggerbit** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:43 pm

So, instead of focusing on the one evil that permeates the church, they are going to focus on an unrelated side issue? Homosexuality is not pedophilia, and pedophilia is not homosexuality. Some pedophiles are ALSO homosexual, and some homosexuals are also pedophiles, but they are not THE SAME sexual orientation. Many pedophiles are ALSO heterosexual. I suppose within the church, the stats pertaining to pedophilia/homosexuality show that the combination tends to be the dominant orientation. So, they'll throw the baby out with the bathwater? Interesting.

by **Nymarya** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:17 pm

All I can say is, if they toss the "Lavendar Mafia" out of the Jesuits the order won't have enough guys left to field a softball team. Yes, the mackerel snappers under the new Nazi pope are doing what they do best, starting a witch hunt against innocent people to cover for the real Luciferians. Of course they want to conflate homosexuality with pedophilia in defiance of all the studies that show that porking altar boys has as much to do with the sexual make up of the average gay man as a taste for raping 3 month old girls has to do with the average heterosexual man. By this reasoning, any time a woman is raped all the straight men in the town should be purged on principal. One of my friends is a devout Catholic who rarely says a critical word about anyone but when she found out they sent Archbishop Levada from our diocese, San Francisco, to the Vatican she said "Oh no" which is the equivalent of anyone else saying "Fucking shit!" Let's all go read the "Grand Inquisitor" chapter of the Brothers K, eh? ======= Oh, I enjoy an egg myself, yes. They don't make good pets, though; you can never get them in at night. ~Doctor Pratt (played by Peter Sellers), "The Wrong Box"

by **emad** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:32 am

<a href="http://www.catholic.org/images/ins_news/2005070550.jpg">www.catholic.org/images/i...070550.jpg</a> A la 'Matrix,' vocations recruitment poster shows priest as hero This vocations poster was the brainchild of Father Jonathan Meyer, associate director of youth and young adult ministry for the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. By Chris Scaperlanda ASHINGTON (CNS) -- "Just as Keanu Reeves fought against the powers of evil, a priest comes to help people fight against sin. There is a battle out there," explained Father Jonathan Meyer, associate director of youth and young adult ministry for the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. He made the comments in an interview with Catholic News Service about a new vocations recruitment poster being distributed by his archdiocese. The poster, which is modeled after an advertisement for the movie "The Matrix," is the brainchild of Father Meyer. It features a priest in full cassock -- and the requisite Roman collar -- holding a cross in one hand and a rosary in the other. And he is wearing sunglasses. That simple juxtaposition provides the mood Father Meyer said he was aiming for when creating the poster -- he wanted to say something about today's seminarian. "Today's seminarian," he said, "is engaged with the world but is also committed to orthodoxy, like (Pope) John Paul II." Father Meyer said the poster, on which he is featured as the "Matrix"-style priest, had its origins in a skit that he saw during his first year at the North American College, the U.S. seminary in Rome. The skit, put on by a group of older seminarians, was based on the film. In it, a group of priests fought Satan in a series of mock martial-arts confrontations. The concept was really brought to life, however, in a meeting with the archdiocese's Youth Council. During the meeting, the concept of Father Meyer dressing up as Neo, Reeves' character in "The Matrix," was jokingly suggested by one of the students. "It was one of those things where everyone laughs and then you move on to the next topic. Only after the meeting, I came back to this one," Father Meyer explained. He then called Missy Scarlet, a friend and a graphic designer, who asked him to do a photo shoot. Within a week they had a working model of the poster. After a few initial edits, the poster was given a trial run at Our Lady of the Greenwood, in Greenwood, where Father Meyer also serves as associate pastor. Father Meyer said it got a huge response. "They were going like hotcakes. Young kids wanted them to hang in their bedrooms, high school students wanted them to hang in their lockers," he said. "That is invaluable. If we can get kids to hang a picture of a priest in their room, we've done something huge for vocations." The response, though, seems to make sense to him. It appeals to people at a level that everyone appears to share. "People love heroes. The poster personifies the priest as a hero," he said. And it speaks of a faith that meets people exactly where they are in their lives. The poster itself says, in a parody of the words which any watcher of videos knows by heart, "This faith has not been modified from its original version. Yet, it is formatted to fit your life." Distribution for the poster has been widespread. Father Meyer said that since distribution began in November, 1,800 posters have been distributed around the Indianapolis Archdiocese. An order of 100 was recently sent to California and 300 more were shipped to the Diocese of Madison, Wis. Father Donald Calloway, a member of the Congregation of Marians of the Immaculate Conception, presents the poster as a part of the talk he gives nationwide called "No Turning Back." And the poster was featured at a recent Indianapolis archdiocesan high school rally. At the rally, 500 posters were distributed during a "big tae kwon do number" performed to music from the movie, Father Meyer noted. <a href="http://www.catholic.org/cathcom/national_story.php?id=15786">www.catholic.org/cathcom/...p?id=15786</a>

by **Nymarya** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:55 pm

Vatican Investigation transcript: Chief investigator Lucci Sarducci (illegitimate son of Susan and Guido): Monsignor Spaghettios, have you ever seen any evidence of homosexuality in the Vatican? Monsignor: You mean, other than that hunky altar boy giving you a Monica Lewinsky as we speak? Sarducci: Yes. Monsignor: No. Sarducci: Next {aaaahhhhhhh!! Grazie Giovanni!} witness. ======= Oh, I enjoy an egg myself, yes. They don't make good pets, though; you can never get them in at night. ~Doctor Pratt (played by Peter Sellers), "The Wrong Box"

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