Did "Official Science" figure this out yet

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Did "Official Science" figure this out yet

Postby slimmouse » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:48 pm

<br> My thought for the day, taken from "The aether is pure concious oneness" ( link at the end)<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In order to lend proof to the idea that the “aether” really exists, Dr. Puthoff reminds us of experiments that were conducted before quantum mechanics theory ever existed, which were designed to see if there was any energy in “empty space.” If these areas of the universe are truly empty, then nothing should be there; no electromagnetic fields, no X-rays, no heat, no energy, nothing. In order to test this idea in the laboratory, it was necessary to create an area that was completely free of air (a vacuum,) and shielded from all known electromagnetic radiation fields. The shielding of this “empty” area from energy fields was accomplished by using what is known as a Faraday cage, which is lined with lead. This airless vacuum was then cooled down to absolute zero – the temperature where all matter should stop vibrating and thus produce no heat. <br><br>At this point, all conventional explanations, having to do with what physicists call the “conservation of energy,” would simply say that it should be a dead, lifeless “vacuum.” You’ve cooled it down to zero degrees Kelvin, sucked out all the air and shielded off all the energy fields. That’s it; now you’ve got a “dead” space.<br><br>These experiments proved that instead of an absence of energy in the vacuum, there was a tremendous amount of it! ............<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The amount of energy in the volume of vacuum space contained within a single light bulb is concentrated enough to bring all the world's oceans to the boiling point!.......</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <snip> <br><br> ......The “Backster effect” demonstrates that plants are very well attuned to the energetic vibrations within their environment. It has been demonstrated and recorded countless times, eliminating all extraneous variables with strict design protocols. Cleve Backster had many years of police experience in administering “lie detector” tests, where a human being would be set up to a machine that measured minute electrochemical changes in the skin. This process, known as polygraph testing, would produce data in the form of a continuing graph on paper, similar to a measurement of heartbeat or other vital signs. The stylus that deposited ink on the paper was designed to wiggle in accordance with any changes in the person’s Galvanic Skin Response, or GSR, which is basically a measurement of how well the skin conducts electricity. If the person suddenly felt the internal stress of telling a lie, their physiological system would reveal that stress through such things as an increase in heart rate, breathing and perspiration. Any of these increases would change how well the skin could conduct electricity, and often quite abruptly. <br><br>So, after many years of work in this field and becoming one of the top polygraph experts throughout the country, Cleve Backster got the idea one day to delicately connect the same metallic terminals that he normally would connect to a human being for a “lie detector” test to the leaf of a plant, and graph the plant’s electrochemical changes. Over time, he discovered that the plant was somehow responding to its environment quite directly; anything that may damage the plant in the outside world seemed to cause a reaction. Cutting the plant seemed to be nowhere near as traumatic as burning the plant, however if he pretended that he was going to burn the plant but knew that he wasn’t actually going to do it, the plant wouldn’t respond. It was only when he formed a clear mental image of grabbing a book of matches, lighting a match and holding it to a leaf that the graph would register a sudden spike – the plant was going into shock, sending as much extra moisture as possible to the leaf in order to protect itself against any damage. This effect also ripples throughout all other plants in the vicinity. <br><br>Some will dismiss this research out of hand, no matter how many charts and graphs they are shown, or even if it is demonstrated right in front of them. On the other hand, other people who are more open-minded would choose to interpret this experiment as indicating that the plants are thinking creatures just as we are. However, at the most fundamental level, we must consider that either way, there has to be a means by which the thoughts of the human are being transmitted to the plant – there has to be a medium through which consciousness can travel. Mainstream science has not yet acknowledged the niche where this medium would exist; namely aether or zero-point energy. Novel theories of a chemical “message” being sent through the air are certainly possible, but the effect works just as well when the plants are isolated from each other, thus prohibiting any such form of communication.<br><br>So again, let us use our example of love as representing a higher level of vibration in the aether. The plant may not have any “emotions” as we would think of them as humans, but simply is responding to changes in the vibrating resonance of aether that constantly surrounds and thereby creates it on a moment by moment basis. In other words, when a person sends loving thoughts to a plant or plays it music, the aetheric energy that the plant draws on for growth and development is increased, and it thereby becomes more vigorous. Similarly, when Backster sent hateful thoughts to the plant, the frequency of energy around it actually decreased, and based on the plant’s primitive design, this energy change triggered a natural survival response as a result. <br><br>Backster also demonstrated that the plant’s shock response could just as easily be caused by the suffering of other creatures in the same area. He designed a series of experiments where a machine would randomly dump brine shrimp into a bath of boiling water while he was not present in the building. The plant naturally and immediately responded to the death of brine shrimp in its environment, reacting with the electromagnetic vibrations that were present in the area; it wasn’t necessary for a human to send negative thoughts to the plant. Hence, inharmonious aether vibrations, no matter who or what creates them, could be seen as leading to inharmonious and even toxic growth conditions, whereas loving aether vibrations enhance the speed and vigor of vitality that streams into the plant, as other experiments clearly demonstrated. Pain, death and hateful thoughts draw away energy from the aetheric forces in that area and reduces the plant’s ability to grow.....</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->snip - Now we know why Prince Charles used to talk to plants - ......<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Backster effect has also been demonstrated with bacteria – an even simpler lifeform than brine shrimp. We attended a lecture of his that was hosted by Walter Russel’s University of Science and Philosophy on September 8, 2000, and during this talk, Backster revealed that he discovered the bacteria effect after pouring a pot of boiling water from the coffeemaker into the sink in his laboratory. His plants, which were always connected to the polygraph machine, registered a huge and immediate shock when he did this, which he later found on the printout. Obviously, he was very puzzled as to what had caused this at first, and had to think carefully about what he was doing right at the moment that the shock had registered. Once he traced it back to the boiling water, he sampled the sink with a cotton swab and analyzed the specimen under a microscope. He then got the answer, which was that a huge colony of bacteria was growing in the sink, which he did not clean regularly! Subsequent experiments proved that the plants consistently reacted to the death of the bacteria. This unexpected result was what led him to perform the brine shrimp experiments indicated above.....snip...<br><br> At one point, Backster attended a scientific presentation that involved the Planaria worm, a small centimeter-long flatworm with two knobby “eyes” at one end of its body. In this experiment, the researchers were attempting to prove that knowledge from one worm could be transferred to another worm that had eaten the remains of the first. So, the hypothesis was that if a Planaria “learned” not to go to a certain area that would damage its body, that knowledge would become stored in its cells and could be transferred to another worm that was fed the remains of its body. The first Planaria would be placed in a petri dish that had a caustic chemical at its rim, so it would learn through hard experience not to travel to the edge. After learning this lesson well, it would be diced up and fed to the next worm. The researchers would connect polygraph electrodes to each Planaria that was placed in the dish, in order to register the occasions when it was being shocked by contacting the chemical. <br><br>“Do you want to know what’s really going on?” Backster asked the lead researcher. “Sure,” the researcher challenged. “Watch this,” Backster said. He went over to the flask that contained the whole colony of Planaria worms and gave it a good shake back and forth. The Planaria in the dish gave such a huge reaction that it spiked the graph right off the paper! The researcher immediately dashed over to the graph and started checking underneath the machine for a loose wire or a malfunction; Backster simply laughed, put his hands in his pockets and walked away. Simply put, what happened to one Planaria happened to all the Planaria, and a primitive form of “group consciousness” traveled through supposedly empty space, seeking to teach the group its lessons for survival.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Link ;<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://ascension2000.com/ConvergenceIII/c302.htm">ascension2000.com/Converg...I/c302.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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some nits to pick

Postby glubglubglub » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:03 pm

The bolded quote ( I think it's originally attributed to Feynman) is not as certain as it's made to seem here:<br><br>basically, if you do some math you will calculate that empty space contains that much energy; whether that energy exists (ie, isn't just a side-effect of the maths used w/out physical correlate) and is somehow tappable are both open questions (unless you've got access to black-budget/alien/whatever tech that settles it...in terms of what's publicly known they're open).<br><br>The snipping you made does two things: it makes that quote seem to be the result of the experiment (and therefore places it out of context), and also makes it seem like the results of the experiment are reported; neither seems to be true -- that the article contains (at least in any significant detail) the results of the experiments or that the result of the experiment was a confirmation of the (extent of the ) energy content of empty space.<br><br>Not trying to flame -- just wish the article had real details in it. <p></p><i></i>
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Zero Point Energy

Postby antiaristo » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:34 pm

slim,<br>Very interesting.<br>I've always found this stuff fascinating. As I understand the science this Zero Point Energy arises purely from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. It produces a tiny amount of potential on any axis. But because the number of axes in three dimensions is so enormously vast the aggregate amounts to something like the example you cite. I've heard it described as like a vase being hit by an enormous number of ping-pong balls from different directions all at once - the vase remains stable.<br>This overlaps with the fascination I have with the Fourth Dimension of space. If it is the same scale as the "regular" three dimensions it wouldmean that everyone on Earth could have their own private Universe (3D) if they so wished. We could perhaps move somewhere that the Windsors and Bushes did not exist.<br>On the other hand, as some have suggested this Dimension might be very small, less than a millimetre (though more than Plank). That would be important too. For although it would be too small to affect us as whole beings, it would affect the parts that make us up. It would permit each fundamental particle the same amount of uncertainty in all four Dimensions. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Zero Point Energy

Postby slimmouse » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:09 pm

Glub glub glub.<br><br> Apologies for the confusion with the snipping. I was trying not to copy the entire passage, and hoped it might be obvious that switching from talking about ZPE to talking about the ability of plants to somehow recognise the suffering of bacteria or the feigned intention of a human being to burn one of its leaves, that the two topics werent related, but merely contained within the same article.<br><br> I will be more careful in future. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Anti,<br><br> I am rapidly coming to the conclusion, that we can forget about the entire term "universe", and should instead be speaking of multiverse. Maybe A zillion other dimensions a Zillionth of a millimetre thick, or a zillionth of a second ahead of us, or behind us. Jeff ran an article a while back citing frogs I think it was falling from nowhere, or parts of them. And then of course theres the infamous ship from the Bermuda Triangle that was caught between dimensions somehow - so infamous I cant remember the name lol.<br><br> Of course, "official" religion and science once persecuted Capernicus, and Galileo, and many others . Today the surpression of knowledge , and the ongoing castigation of anyone outside the boundaries of "official" scientists is as bad, if not far worse. Rather like, "Youre either with us, or your sponsorless". I guess we'll see. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Did "Official Science" figure this out yet

Postby elfismiles » Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 am

So, following the link from Elvis' post in the "Rockefellers And Rothschilds Merge" thread I found at the Plastik site a video vignette about the boat's greenhouse which invokes Cleve Backster's work (without ever actually mentioning his name I think):

http://www.theplastiki.com/exploreplast ... greenhouse

More at RI on Cleve Backster's SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS theme:
search.php?keywords=cleve+backster+plants&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
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