A New Age Cometh

by **Dreams End** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:16 am

Reading Jeff's current piece was of interest as I've been trying to wrap my mind around what the hell the whole point of these decades long attempts to influence Western thinking toward the sort of new age paradigm it seems to be approaching. I mean, i can see the benefits to the power structure, but not the need for such a convoluted and sometimes bizarre approach. Don't have the book, Changing Images of Man, but Boucher has a link on his site to this report called "Changing Images 2000" a response to the original. The original is credited but not really referred to much. This whole report actually seems to be a promotional piece for Ken Wilber's ideas, but you can take a look. <a href="http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_Jr-3Lh8J5cJ:www.owmarkley.org/inward/Docs/Changing%2520Images%25202000.pdf+%22changing+images+2000%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a">64.233.161.104/search?q=c...=firefox-a</a> And to give Boucher credit, he has a quote that a commentor on his site made. No evidence to back it up but the THEORY put forward is that the original report saw these changes as happening and wanted to make sure to keep these changes under control. In other words, these new paradigms were emerging on their own and the powers that be wanted to bend them, not create them whole cloth. Check out the full comment here: <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/27/changing-images-of-man/">www.timboucher.com/journa...es-of-man/</a> So we have three theories of this type of material. 1. These guys are smart, forward thinking and care about the world and believe these ideas will save the future. 2. These guys see some spiritual, intellectual and political beliefs coming down the pike that challenge the status quo too severely. Therefore, they decided to co-opt the process, put their own spin on things and keep people focusing square on their navels and not on the man behind the curtain. 3. These guys pretty much thunk this stuff up on their own (or borrowed and twisted existing beliefs in novel ways) as a way to begin setting the stage for a downsizing of the entire planet, particularly of the industrialized countries that had known a pretty high standard of living. Depopulation might be part of the agenda and all their evil shenanigans will be justified as "birth pains" of a wonderful new world order. The fact that this whole approach is taking decades and that these guys go to their graves giving interviews and writing about this stuff, suggests to me some level of buy-in on the part of those pushing these ideas. And don't get me wrong...go read Changing Images 2000. Lots of stuff in there to agree with, at least in general terms. So if they buy their own philosophy, then is it really a conspiracy or are they simply "spreading the gospel" so to speak? Or do we think that perhaps, like groups such as Scientology, they have one face for the masses and a darker agenda as you reach the inner circles. One last side note, the Changing Images 2000 article suggests three "wild card" scenarios. The third one is "confirmed contact with extraterrestrials". I find this interesting because I keep seeing belief in UFO's, prominent UFO hoaxes, alien abductions and UFO cults as part of a sort of vague plan to "set the stage" for something or another along these lines. This is independent of the reality of UFO's (though I suppose they could be working WITH the aliens...but that is not my suggestion here.) Again, this has been going on at least since Adamski, so really, a plan that is over 50 years in and still not finished yet...can it really be said to be a plan? I don't know. Thoughts?

by **Trifecta** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:37 am

With out a doubt there is enough plasma's floating about in the atmosphere to create any fake image that will corall the masses. The second plane going in to the second tower is a prime example. Plasma trails, guided by scalar black lines can be viewed almost every day if we look up. Has anyone noticed how many towns are litterally shimmering throughout the night to early morning? We can it seems influence our surroundings, compound that with microwaves, scalar weaponry, and a digital world it is not a hard leap to imagine our selfs in the self enforced matrix. Do what we can do, when we can do it. And share the idea that we can change our world with thoughts... Just look at Emoto's work with water. We evolved out of the bicameral mind, we think clearer when we use both hemispheres of our brains..that fusion may one day enabl;e us to transcend all the dualities that keep us in this prison/battery farm.

by **heyjt** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:42 am

I'd like to say that Starroute had an excellent analysis of occultism and elites re: Jeff's last post. Obviously there are those who would manipulate for control and power. But after reading Marylin Ferguson's "Aquarian Conspiracy" I am convinced that there is really a grass-roots movement for positive change through a human potential movement. Now, these groups may also be aligned with things like the Gorbechev institute or Maurice Strong or whatever. But that doesn't make the ideology wrong. I'm sure (as it has been said before) they would like to steer "the movement". One way or the other, people have to break out of the social and political Dogma that has kept the world so screwed up. And I don't just mean our Western culture. Maybe that's why there is all the talk about a new universal religion...

by **Dreams End** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:40 pm

heyjt, Would that put you in number 1 (the higher ups involved are well intended) or in number 2 (the movement is legit but the higher ups want to subvert/coopt for their own reasons.)? Just curious. Not completely sure where I stand on it.

by **heyjt** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:16 pm

Ya, I would say #2. I think there are sincere elements in somthing of a human potential movement that could constructively change the world. But just like the "voluntary simplicity" movement during the 60's, the elites were able to manipulate and infiltrate. I guess changing the world, even for the better, requires some cash. As far as how the "mystery religions" operate, I assume some of the really evil stuff is perpetrated by people that are able to cloak homicidal or other tendencies under the veil of ceremony and social control. On the other hand, What about groups like Falun Gong in China for instance. Unless I'm mistaken, I haven't heard of them doing anything violent. But the Chinese Government is really out to get them. Here in this country people like M. Ferguson (Aquarian Conspiracy) are repeatedly lumped in with some kind of Satanic movement by the Christian Right. I think you had a pretty good analysis with some loose ends that may never be answered...

by **Homeless Halo** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:41 pm

.: Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law; The plan for the NWO, the New Atlantis, is well over 500 years old. By some accounts, over 150,000 years old (according to Sarmoung, the oldest in the business). Well older than the current conspiracies and their international satraps. As a Thelemite, operating in communion with a large "cabal" in Detroit (one of our original powerbases), I can say that the speculations that all who participate in the Magnum Opus are involved in the horrific crimes discussed in this location, is oversimplification and the worst kind of fear mongering. Of course, the first move any LHP cult makes is to demonize the followers of its RHP antecedent. This removes the likeliest threat to their domination. (witness the actions of the american OTO in censoring the works of Crowley from the masses, or of Hitler's occultists banning all lodge organizations in wartime Germany) "They" certainly benefit everytime the Moral Majority categorizes all occultists as satanists (I've heard preachers go so far as to say that the "occult" is just another name for "devil worship"). They certainly wouldn't like you to remember that it was the Magi who educated Christ and Abraham and Krishna. They don't want you to remember that it was the Rosicrucians who created the idea of the NWO, and that it was a beautiful idea back then. They don't want you to remember that the occultists have been involved with "flying saucer" phenomena since 4000 BCE. Osculum Infame. *wink* ? Are you aware you've just given away information from beyond the third veil of Thelemic magick (the secular teachings of the AA)? Just curious. There are many thousands of people truly dedicated to the Great Work who have no desire to take what is yours from you. Those who profess illumination but cower in darkness are the worst of liars, charlatans, and stumblingblocks to the path. The are the eternal enemy of those who have taken the oath and crossed the abyss. We will not rest until that day, called by the Beast, Be-With-Us. The LHP brings only division, and only they can profit from the seperation between the masses and the initiates. So, what I am saying is, yes, there is a real grass roots movement towards the alchemical marriage, the great work, the ordering of the world. And no, everyone that is participating is not evil, nor are the ideas the sole possession of these fallen. They stole them from us, not vice versa. Until that day. Love is the Law Love under Will :.

by **Trifecta** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:37 am

HH, if you refer to the act of kissing the devils arse everyday in order to sustain percieved power, i.e. osculum infame, then the veil is not a dark curtain. It is obvious from this laymens point of view, that occultic practice is just another believe system, and those who use that power from on high, cannot fake there intentions. Osculum Infame is a project/piss take I am working on, after we find our personal illumination, realising like sand it trickles through our fingers and the lessons continue. Surely we have to be at a certain place in time in order to genuinely reflect the power we ALL have a birth right to experience. Dark and light is all the same, puffing out air to regulate the brain. We do manifest our realities. You quote Crowley, that I guess is your power symbol/archetype, you manifest the worlds you wish to experience. Last night I wanted to right an article called "when it all goes tits up" this moning tis but a thought. I did not give the thought form power (this time) instead I used the thought to empower a collective consiousness for trancendance. The world is amazing, and yet after many years the closet I have found to breaking a duality was when they all merged into one homogenous ball of energy. There are no books that cover this spectrum, just you and your deeper connection to the world of your personal influence.

by **Homeless Halo** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:01 am

.: Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law Nope, in fact, I wasn't referring to the Homoeroticism of the semen drenched OTO. That is to say, my reference wasn't to your "name", but in the direction of one of your comments. Crowley as "power symbol/archtype". Perhaps. Although actual Thelemites don't go in for the Crowleyanity or Beastworship common among the remnants of the Ra Hoor Khuit movement. I'm more interested in the fruits of Edward's labors, not the leftovers of his cults. I find the disease ridden Anglo-American "thelemites" to be quite discomfitting. We consider them our prime enemies, as they've fallen from the work to dabble in the world of shells. Although, in the beginning, I identified with EAC because of his "aura". Fascination, you'd call it. It was many years before I managed to dig my way through the morass of unintelligible esotericisms and "secrets" of sex alchemy (which is only the 2nd veil, you know, right?), to get at the meatier bits underneath. Which is my primary focus currently. Adapting the secular practices of the old A.A to the modern occult paradigms. There isn't a "real" OTO anymore. The USA versions from Cali have taken over all that was left and assimilated it into the american grand lodge of freemasonry (and their P2 counterparts) and air force intelligence. Although, rumor has it that there are still some "faithful" sects existing amongst the fallen groups attached to MI6 in England. It could take ages to attempt to describe the differences between the LHP Black Brotherhood of death and the actual Thelemites, barely in operation above ground. We exist mostly today as guerilla fighters in occupied territory. The easiest way to tell us apart is to follow the advice of the old writer: "By their fruits ye shall know them". But even that is complicated in these times. Trust no one. In regards to my original comment, I should say: The "rituals", the wands and cakes, and lanterns and shite are first veil. The sex magic, including the stuff Jeff attaches to RA,etc...all of that is second veil. The third veil is something altogether different. Behind curtain number three is where we've kept the actual important stuff. Any Thelemic order that only teaches through number 2, like the "official" OTO in America, is fallen. LHP. BB. Whatever you want to call them. As the "Caliphate" OTO says themselves, "we claim no authority past the sphere of malkuth" Damned by their own words. As the prophet said long ago: And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Big Brother Horus followed all the others before him into disgrace. As was predicted. The jury is still out on little brother. We shall see.

by **banned** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:24 am

I thought it was a no brainer that Aleister Crowley was a Satanist. (Hmm, what gave it away? Being called The Great Beast? Dooohhhhh....) I also thought it was clear Jeff's intention on this blog is to expose Satanists?

by **Trifecta** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:36 am

"By their fruits ye shall know them". But even that is complicated in these times. Trust no one. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> Yep, trust no one, not even me. Says Buddha. It is amazing the people that come in and out of your life as we traverse our bubbles of babble. Sex magik of which the only knowledge I have was being able to use it to pull women. Its another fake, it's not living in the Toa. An easy lesson. A third veil, why not millions of them?. Its all bullshit until you can learn to loose I, Me, Mine. And once that is done, you struggle to hold it, until it appears in your spheres of influence and influences again and again and again. The emotional cancer of our current 3d paradigm has us stuck in the cult of the terminally ill (you have called it malkuth) (of which I have no knowledge) no wonder control freaks use this to keep the animals in the pen. The danger of being able to influence through thought forms is the obvious butterfly effect. How are we ever to know what is right and what is wrong when we use it. We are the most dangerous animals in the pack. By their fruits ye shall know them. Waiting for the king to arrive and only seeing that manifest through a dark, fake king ... sounds like another control system in place. Unless the king does not know yet he is king?

by **Homeless Halo** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:47 pm

banned: It might seem a no brainer to you, on the outside, I suppose. However, normally one must "believe" in satan in order to worship him. And one must worship Satan to be a Satanist. Crowley neither believed in Satan, nor worshipped him (or anything else). Many of the Beast's comments about "satan" were tongue in cheek *pokes* at the mainstream Puritan Christianity he was plagued by in England. Although it is a commonly held belief that Crowley worshipped satan, it cannot be true, based on the simple fact that Crowley know what most students of comparative religion know: Satan doesn't exist, and he never did. He is entirely an invention of Christianity's paranoia. Jeff does a good job of exposing satanism, but it often appears he knows as little about the occult as your average ranting fundie preacher who warns against the dangers of Led Zepplin played backwards... No offense to Jeff, but he overstates his emphasis towards satanism, and seems to "connect dots" more than filling in dots. Those of us who are Thelemites, like Crowley was, have been called Satanists for about 101 years now. While we have become accustomed to it, and you've begun to *assume* the accuracy of such a claim, neither of these facts makes it true. We are not satanists. we do not worship satan. we do not believe in "satan" as the devil. as in a literal manifestation of evil. Jesus didn't believe in the Devil, why should I? I could explain the Thelemic position on the devil called Satan, but it could easily take longer than we have. Suffice it to say that the Thelemics follow a Gnostic form of Christianity as interpreted in the light of more ancient worldviews (in particular Sumer and Egypt). We examine the existence and validity of a number of "entities" but Satan is not one of them. Never was. Never will be. Any Thelemic group engaging in Satan worship is no more a Thelemite than Chuck E Cheese is. Worship is anathema to Thelema. Of course most of this is the fault of former Thelemites engaging in unsavory activities, including their modern involvement with RA and actual satanic cults. The books of prophecy in the Bible, including the Last Book, are viewed from a different perspective by Thelema, that is, in the light of Traditional Jewish mysticism and its "double speak". (Malkuth is the bottom sphere on the Jewish tree of life, which corresponds to the Material world. Claiming no authority beyond this earth is akin, in mysticism, to admitting the fallen nature of one's cult, as the OTO current has done, somewhat recently) OI you seem to be caught in the anti-egoism made fashionable again with the modern importation of Eastern religious ideas. Remember, those are just ideas too. The third veil of Thelema, practically non-existant among the "official" cults (just as the "official" christians no longer practive love or mercy as dogma), involves a series of internal/external martial arts practices. The beginning series has even been adopted by American and British Remote Viewers, etc. This is possibly one of the reasons why there are no Thelemic branches teaching it currently, in the mainstream at least. Sex magick, the second veil, as you've said, really only is useful for two things. One, really interesting sex. Two, to be abused and coopted for MC purposes. It is the second of these which is more common today. The first veil is what eventually became Chaos magic. The "thought forms" you speak of, commonly employed by the GD and Theosophists, etc. "Low magic" Crow would call it. This is why it is almost the only thing you can find in a bookstore... The third veil is what eventually became the modern military's experiments in the paranormal, through Crow's contacts, after his death, and against his warnings. (Even Jeff has shown Crow's connections to Parsons and Hubbard, but neglected to mention that Crow said they were "idiots" for doing the Babalon Working, and personally attempted to intervene and remove Hubbard. He also chastised Parsons for his communications with unsavory beings. Jeff noticed none of this, even though it is as easy to find as the other information is) It is this veil which is never admitted by the modern Thelemic organizations (even though it was published during Crow's lifetime, it is not "available" today), I am certain, because it represents a great threat to their ability to continue to abuse the practices as they do. Thelema is not impressed with your lack of vision and understanding. We are annoyed at the continuing view of us as "satanists" when the truth has been available for the masses for over 80 years. Do some research, don't let Jeff, or anyone else tell you how to think about the occult. Some people are just inherently afraid of the unknown. I consider them as much my enemy as those that do know, and misuse their knowledge. Perhaps they are worse, because they make it harder to combat the LHP. Crow even left instructions for dealing with the Black Brotherhood, and a list of traits whereby you can differentiate them from other initiates. Of course, its easier to ignore all of this, and label all occultists as "satanists" than it is to read a bit. Who benefits from this apathy towards truth?

by **banned** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:25 pm

...then who the hell, pardon the pun, was he talking to when he was tempted in the desert? Yosemite Sam? Who told him to turn stones into bread? Who told him to throw himself down and God would save him? Who offered him all the kingdoms of the world if he would fall down and worship him? Jesus said, "Begone, Satan." Is this a misprint, did he really say "Begone, STAN", Stan being a guy he knew from carpentry class in high school who was always playing pranks on him? Translated from the archaisms of the KJV, is what Jesus said "Stan, dude, nice try but you're not punking me this time. I gotta go home, after 40 days with no chow my mom's falafel's sounding really good."

by **Homeless Halo** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:46 pm

Satan is a jewish angel. God's prosecuting attorney. In the Jewish religious worldview, Satan, works for God. Is not "fallen". Is not the "devil". There is no enemy. Just another guy with a flaming sword given a dirty job by god. "Satan" as modern Christians and Islamists view him never existed in the Jewish viewpoint. And Jesus didn't talk to "Satan" he talked to "a satan". An Adversary type angel, like the one who makes the donkey talk... Read it in Greek, it'll make more sense.

by **Homeless Halo** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:51 pm

Start with this. <a href="http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html">www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html</a>

by **Homeless Halo** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:57 pm

Thelemites interpret Christianity through Judaism and Judaism through Babylon, Egypt, and Sumer, so we believe in Satan, even LESS than Jews do, to clarify. The point of the above post is to help you to understand that Holy Mother Church created the doctrine of the universal enemy and mixed their idea of Satan with dozens of other good AND bad gods from outlawed "pagan" belief systems. It was in the interest of the holy father figure cult to keep mankind afraid of the dark, as opposed to teaching him how to "see".

A New Age Cometh

A New Age Cometh

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