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need positive energy to ward off evil eye

Postby ir » Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:42 am

Since my father departed I feel exposed to "evil eye" bad energies from my sister. She is also connected with kabala center (the maddona hex/hoax) and similar forces. I can actually feel her vibes and I wonder how to deal with it on the same plane so as not to get into the hatred cycle. The bad vibes manifest as "bad coincidences", and generally, people around me become hostile for no reason. <br>While I am ambivalent about the existence and nature of "evil eye" (energies and entities), i also feel them as real, but do not attempt to explain them intellectually or in religious terms, cause that has always led me to more bad energy coming in. <br>I have had a thematic issue with "deadly siblings", and this is why, when I read Jeff's post on "bad medicine" (1), and how the issue of killing a sibling comes in, i became more antsy, on the thematic/archetypical level.<br>Two of my other siblings (sisters) died, and this remaining one has very lethal energies coming to me from her. I know it is my parents who set us off one against the other, on the most basic instinctual level (when parental love is given miserly, and only to "the fittest" sort of, like "divide and rule" meme). <br> It seems larger than me, its like archetypes running through me, and playing dangerously out in my life. <br>HELP will be appreciated. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby chillin » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:12 pm

Wow Ir, losing two siblings in itself is quite a bit to live with. You're one of the more lucid posters here and I think that's a sign of your strong constitution.<br><br>As far as the 'eye' goes, from my (very) limited understanding of such things you are the only one that can give any meaning to it. Like witch doctors most might laugh at having 'powers' in their own communities, it's in the eye of the beholder. Maybe try to see the humour in it or something, after all we're talking about the kaballah center, isn't that pretty close to fast food drive-thru spiritualism? <p></p><i></i>
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Postby km artlu » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:02 pm

"people around me become hostile for no reason"<br><br>That statement from you is the only mention I've yet encountered which matches a bizarre series of interactions I'd had many years ago. I was connected to a young woman whose presense seemed to instigate a seething rage directed at me. It would happen exclusively with men, some of whom I'd known for years and others who were recent acquaintances.<br><br>It was spooky and endangering, because a couple of those incidents hovered on the edge of physical violence. After awhile the phenomenon faded away, but as I became aware of what was happening, and learned to spot it coming on, I managed to evade it by adopting a very soothing demeanor and somehow configure myself to not be a target.<br><br>That may not be of much help to you, but I can at least offer supporting testimony that what you're experiencing is real. And, in my case, those de-escalation tactics did work.<br><br>I also note that you seem to posit some connection with your father's departure. Come to think of it, the birth of our (the woman mentioned and myself) first child immediately preceded those events.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: warding off

Postby Project Willow » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:29 pm

IR, <br>Let me respond with something a little more grounded in the material... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Check for programming. Is there something inside set to go off upon the death of your father? Was there a part of your system still in contact with him? If so, is it possible that part had instructions to contact your sister and take direction from her?<br><br>It could be as simple as that.<br><br>Sometimes perps also install the idea that once they are dead, they can monitor you even better since now they can see all. I've heard some survivors talk about getting these kinds of messages from parts. Maybe it's something similar to that.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby ir » Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:04 pm

thank you for sharing this experience, it resonate actually more with the effect my mother has on my life. Its strange, because a few days ago, i was supposed to extend my rental agreement, and i had some financial discussion with my mother about the landlord's stalling the signature...and then she said "he has a different way of talking to me, he respects me", namely, that men respect her and take aggression at me (which was also the division of labor at home, when we were young). I will try the soothing method, as you had suggested. <br>this is very accurate, in describing the mechanism between my mother and myself. I think my two sisters have immitated her, in doing same with me.<br>If you have further insight, feel welcome. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby ir » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:02 pm

oh, i just noticed the username is mk ultra reversed...nice. I am letting those words sink, it has a good effect on me, mk.<br><br>PW, i am still processing the notion of having a specific preplanned program for my father's death. this is a mindblowing idea.<br>I cannot connect with the "parts" part, i was never able to identify parts in me, like some people here actualy have names for personalities. I do however know I am wired to the core, and programmed with regards to events, people, and mostly "cues", voice cues i think.<br>My sister has become (I think that's fairly late in the process) a sadistic handler/master, and although she states her evil intentions and very derogative words about me, I am supposed to obey her. the only way I was able to get away from that is by not recieving phone calls that I don't recognize the caller ID, and minimizing the access to me by her directly or other voices/people from that program. however, this means that I am restricted and constricted...fearful, on the defense about it, because it is far from resolved. <br>---<br>I know that I was programmed for "post sibling death", but not sure about father, from what I see now, the basic organization of players and roles remained in tact despite his death. and yes, there is a sense of him being able to control "from the grave", not so much spiritually, but by force of the Will and the estate. <br>km artlu's suggestion about the effect of my mother/sister on aggression of men, adequately presents the dynamics and home. it was a good comment, but made me sad that I fell into the trap, with my father, who took out ALL the bad feelings/conduct ONLY at me. I think this pattern remained in my life, and I will be more mindfull now, i hope, to the situation and how to defuse it. I have sense some of it here too, and the internet is really a good reflection because it is not "really real".<br>--<br> <p></p><i></i>
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IR and the Evil Eye...

Postby dragon » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:43 am

IR, that sounds like classic mind control programming. We see it here in the States, too. Here, I tell people to look for a Masonic connection in the family as the first suspect. After that comes a military connection, as having either served in the military or worked for them at some point, or a defense contractor. Sometimes a specific blood line is the reason for this being a "person of interest" to the Dark Forces.<br><br><br>Over there, in your particular case, I'd look for a Mossad connection in addition to all the others, and mind control having been inserted in you at some point. You may have alters in there, and it IS all connected to your father's death. Here in the States, there is one case that I am familiar with where there was a Masonic family connection AND a military connection, and the two children were taught to hate each other. <br><br><br>The mind control story is told in variations of the same theme in books and videos. What you need is some way to alleviate the problem. <br><br><br>I would suggest that you begin the practice of agnihotra. We have found it to be amazingly beneficial in dealing with Darkness of all sorts, from aliens all the way down to federal, state and local governments and even nasty neighbors. Do a search on the web for more information. And I'll bet there's a source near you for the material to begin the ceremony. <br><br><br>This is a way of introducing Light into a dark situation. It might help all of you shake off your programming and get control of your lives. We've seen some pretty astounding effects over here. <br><br><br>Dragon <p></p><i></i>
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chillin - on kabala center

Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:50 am

hey, thanks for reminding me of my lucidity, i tend to forget iits there and available.<br>As for KC, what you are saying is both true and not the whole truth. in terms of the spiritual package they are marketting , it is indeed a drive thru junk, however there are deeper and darker elements in the organization as such. won't get into it right now, but it has a smaller core of a cult with all the ingredients we know (military, occult, SRA etc.). those in the periphery who just consume the materials are only exposed to bad food, but the ones in the inner circle are deep in the shit and inflict a lot of injury on others and themselves. <br>Just to give you an example, the head of the Israeli branch, Osnat yudkevitch, stated recently in the newspaper here (following indictment of fraud) that her father is Mossad veteran. I have seen more than a few of those types there, and i have deeper suspicions with regards to some form of sexual slavery they develop, centered around the Queen Esther archetype, in a distorted/satanic manner. I have noticed that Queen Esther is in fact the first documented controlled sexual bait (the earlier example in the Bible is Yael who seduced Sisra, who is considered BTW the previous incarnatino of Esther, under Kabbalah. She might be seen as controlled/operated by Debra, the prophetesse/judge/military leader). The cult have been playing and messing around with this program. Do not take them lightly. they are the "deep politics" and deeper precursor, too, of the bizarre alliance between Jewish/Israeli ultra right and Christian fundamentalists.<br>And, there is a lot of money there, which is always a good indication of trouble. <p></p><i></i>
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