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Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:51 pm
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Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:06 pm
by chump

Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

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Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:47 am
by Freitag
It's funny how I see this thread updated and click it thinking there's some kind of new development in Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity.

Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:31 pm
by JackRiddler
Freitag » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:47 pm wrote:It's funny how I see this thread updated and click it thinking there's some kind of new development in Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity.

Nope. It's even funnier you'd expect that.

Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:41 pm
by chump
chump wrote:

A personal cosmic journey...

Millionaires don't use astrology, Billionaires do” - J P Morgan.

In this interview, we explore the meanings, impact & reality of these quotes & more.


Sofia interviews Martin Kenny:


Hey man! Martin reminds me of me in my twenties; and re-assessing the situation, I suspect he structured his self studies sincerely …

NASA’s Van Allen Belt Probes spot an Impenetrable Barrier in Space

“Two donuts of seething radiation that surrounds Earth, called the Van Allen radiation belts, have been found to contain a nearly impenetrable barrier that prevents the fastest, most energetic electrons from reaching Earth…”

“This exists in a torus field. A toroidal field is a essentially a sphere, maybe donut shaped. “

Exploring the possibility that the Earth is square, Martin determines… "The meta-physical is made up of squares and pyramids and that sort of thing… , but our physical world is made up of curves… This electromagnetic sphere is inside a hypercube, a tesseract - which is a square, a Kaaba. So our universe is circles inside squares inside pyramids, and that is a fractal that reflects or expands within our universe…

* “tesseract - In geometry, the four-dimensional analog of the cube; the tesseract is to the cube as the cube is to the square. Just as the cube consists of six square faces, the hyper surface of the tesseract consists of eight cubical cells. The tesseract is one of the six convex regular prototypes.” (google - Wikipedia)

* “Kaaba: The Black Stone of Mecca, or Kaaba Stone, is a Muslim relic, which according to Islamic tradition dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. “ (google - wikipedia)

The ultimate metaphysical secret, if we dare to state it so simply, is that there are no boundaries in the universe. Boundaries are illusions, products not of reality but of the way we map and edit reality. And while it is fine to map out the territory, it is fatal to confuse the two.
- Ken Wilbur

Learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
- Leonardo da Vinci

There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy.
- Frederich Nietzsche

Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.
- Albert Einstein

If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.
- Nicola Tesla

* Torus Field (Top Google reply): ... ow-process

The Torus - Dynamic Flow Process

Whereas the Vector Equilibrium represents the ultimate stillness of energy, the Torus shows us how energy moves in its most balanced dynamic flow process. The important thing to understand about the torus is that it represents a process, not just a particular form.

Ring Torus

Horn Torus

A torus consists of a central axis with a vortex at both ends and a surrounding coherent field. Energy flows in one vortex, through the central axis, out the other vortex, and then wraps around itself to return to the first incoming vortex. The simplest description of its overall form is that of a donut, though it takes many different shapes, depending upon the medium in which it exists. For example, a smoke ring in air or a bubble ring in water are both very donut shaped. And yet an apple or an orange, which are both torus forms, are more overtly spherical. Plants and trees all display the same energy flow process, yet exhibit a wide variety of shapes and sizes.

Hurricanes, tornadoes, magnetic fields around planets and stars, and whole galaxies themselves are all toroidal energy systems. Extending this observation of the consistent presence of this flow form into the quantum realm, we can postulate that atomic structures and systems are also made of the same dynamic form...


In our model of cosmometry, the torus is the fundamental form of balanced energy flow found in sustainable systems at all scales. It is the primary component that enables a seamless fractal embedding of energy flow from micro-atomic to macro-galactic wherein each individual entity has its unique identity while also being connected with all else. In the words of pioneering researcher Arthur Young:

“The self in a toroidal Universe can be both separate and connected with everything else.”

For example, our Sun has a large toroidal field surrounding it — the heliosphere — that is itself embedded inside a vastly larger toroidal field encompassing the Milky Way galaxy. Our Earth’s magnetic field is surrounding us and is inside the Sun’s field, buffering us from the direct impact of solar electromagnetic radiation. Earth’s atmosphere and ocean dynamics are toroidal and are influenced by the surrounding magnetic field. Ecosystems, plants, animals, etc all exhibit torus flow dynamics and reside within and are directly influenced by (and directly influence) the Earth’s atmospheric and oceanic systems. And on it goes inward into the ecosystems and organs of our bodies, the cells they’re made of, and the molecules, atoms and sub-atomic particles they’re made of…

In this way we can see that there is a seamlessly dynamic exchange of energy and information (a.k.a consciousness) occurring throughout the entire cosmic experience. It is like a “stepping down” and “stepping up” from level to level wherein the balance of energy dynamics comes into coherence appropriate to each scale. And yet there is only one whole energy flow occurring throughout the entirety of it. This is what physicist David Bohm calls the Holomovement.

“[Bohm states] "The new form of insight can perhaps best be called Undivided Wholeness in Flowing Movement. This view implies that flow is, in some sense, prior to that of the ‘things’ that can be seen to form and dissolve in this flow"

According to Bohm, a vivid image of this sense of analysis of the whole is afforded by vortex structures in a flowing stream. Such vortices can be relatively stable patterns within a continuous flow, but such an analysis does not imply that the flow patterns have any sharp division, or that they are literally separate and independently existent entities; rather, they are most fundamentally undivided.

Thus, according to Bohm’s view, the whole is in continuous flux, and hence is referred to as the holomovement (movement of the whole).”

From The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

Visionary artist Alex Grey captures the essence of this in his painting from the Sacred Mirrors series, Universal Mind Lattice:

Chapel of Sacred Mirrors [/img]

This insight is profound in its implications, especially when we consider that even the most fundamental energy event — a photon of light — can be seen as a toroidal fluctuation emanating from the underlying Unified Field. This suggests that, even within the non-manifest state of the Unified Field there is potentially a current flow occurring, though within a dynamic equilibrium that maintains the balanced structure of the Field until such time as enough localized spin occurs and a photon (and all else in the known universe) emerges into an observable state. (The dynamics of dark energy and dark matter may well be explained by this concept, as will be explored elsewhere.)

“The first significant challenge to mechanism came from Einstein, who claimed there were deep contradictions in the very notion of an independently existing particle. He proposed that what we normally think of as a particle is actually a temporary localized pulse emerging from a larger field, very much as a vortex temporarily forms from the dynamic flowing of a stream."

From The Essential David Bohm,
edited by Lee Nichol

Centered By Stillness

Continuing our exploration of the torus as a form and flow process, one of the key characteristics of it is that at its very center, the entire system comes to a point of ultimate balance and stillness — in other words, perfect centeredness. Like the center point of the vector equilibrium, this is the center point “singularity” of the torus. And since we’re really talking about a unified model of cosmometry (even though we’re describing the model’s constituent parts “separately”), this center point is one and the same in both the VE and the torus. In the VE, it’s the center of the system in its state of unmanifest perfect equilibrium. In the torus it’s the center of the system in its state of manifest flow process…

… con’d

Re: Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:56 pm
by chump


Tesla had it right, electromagnetic realm.