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La Repubblica POLLARI GAVE FORGERIES TO HADLEY

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:27 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/10/index.html#008117" target="top">www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/10/index.html#008117</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>HADLEY NAMED. La Repubblica has a dynamite series this week on the origin of the yellowcake forgeries. Laura Rozen reports: <br>With Patrick Fitzgerald widely expected to announce indictments in the CIA leaks investigation, questions are again being raised about the murky matter that first led to the appointment of the special counsel: namely, how the Bush White House came into possession of discredited Italian intelligence reports claiming that Iraq sought uranium "yellowcake" from Niger. <br>The key documents supposedly proving the Iraqi attempt turned out to be crude forgeries on official stationery stolen from the African nation's Rome embassy. Among the most tantalizing aspects of the debate over the Iraq War is the origin of those fake documents and the role of the Italian intelligence services in disseminating them. <br><br>In an explosive series of articles appearing this week in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, investigative reporters Carlo Bonini and Giuseppe d'Avanzo reveal how Niccolo Pollari, chief of Italy's military intelligence service, known as SISMI, brought the Niger yellowcake story directly to the White House after his insistent overtures had been rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency in 2001 and 2002. <br><br>Today's exclusive report in La Repubblica reveals that Pollari met secretly in Washington on September 9, 2002, with then–Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. Their secret meeting came at a critical moment in the White House campaign to convince Congress and the American public that war in Iraq was necessary to prevent Saddam Hussein from developing nuclear weapons. <br><br>The La Repubblica article quotes a Bush administration official saying, "I can confirm that on September 9, 2002, general Nicolo Pollari met Stephen Hadley."<br><br>Laura will have more on this story later today. <br><br><br>and this<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7256" target="top">bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7256</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> JANUARY 2001 BREAK-IN AT NIGER EMBASSY<br><br>At night, <!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>between the first and second of the January 2001, a mysterious thief came to the embassy of Niger in Rome</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> and into the residence of the counselor in charge. It turned out that some letterhead and seals (see photocopy) were missing. A second dossier on Niger-Iraq trade soon came into Martino’s hands, one that included references to uranium trafficking. Martino claims he got it from embassy personnel and that he thought it was authentic.<br><br><br><br>http://www.repubblica.it/2005/j/sezioni/esteri/iraq69/bodv/bodv.html<br>Please excuse the translation I had to use this, it can be used for the rest of the article<br>http://www.freetranslation.com/<br>"Pollari went to the White House to offer its truth on the Iraq" The dossier on the uranium from the Niger did<br>not involve the Ioc of CARLO BONINI and GIUSEPPE OF REMAINDER<br><br>ROME - For Nicolò Pollari, director of the Earthquakes, the rules of its occupation I am inequivoche. It says to Republic: "I Am the director of the intelligence and the mine alone institutional speaker, after the 11 September, was at Washington the director of the Ioc, George Tenet. How it is obvious, I speak only with him. ..". But it is actual truth that our barbefinte have working only with the Ioc? Or they supported also the clandestine efforts of the intelligence parallel created from Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz with the "group Iraq", the office for Special plans of the Pentagon, the office of the national security advisor, specific to find the useful tests for the "change of regime" to Baghdad? <br><br>It is a fact that, to the eve of the war in Iraq and with the supervision of the diplomatic advisor of Palace Chigi, Gianni Castellaneta (today ambassador in the Usa), the director of the Earthquakes organizes to Washington its diary with the staff of Condoleezza Rice, in those national years security advisor to the White House. Republic is in a position to document this double platform of the government and of the Italian intelligence. At least one of the meetings "very little institutional" of Pollari and, how they the secret agents say, it "accomplishment of a system" that holds together Government - Intelligence - Information. <br><br>Short recapitulation. The Earthquakes of Nicolò Pollari wants to credit the iraqui purchase of uranium crude to build a nuclear bomb. The diagram of the game is rather transparent. The cards "authentic" on an attempt to purchase in Niger (old "intelligence" Italian of the eighties) the door in gift the vicecapo of the Center Earthquakes of Rome (Antonio Nucera). They come bundled with other card built to the bell' and better with a theft simulated in the embassy of the Niger (if they extract of it card addressed and you stamp). The documents come shown from the men of Pollari to the agents of the station Ioc of Rome while a "mailman" of the Earthquakes, a such one of name Rocco Martino, delivers them to London to the MI6 of sir Richard Dearlove. It is the before instantaneous one. It returns useful to tell the second chapter of the Large organizing Deciet in Italy to build the necessity of a military intervention in Iraq. It already we saw. Greg Thielmann, former director of the front desk of intelligence of the Department of State, itself meeting place on the table the report "Italian" on the uranium. It does not remember the exact date. <br><br><br><br><br>"Pollari andò alla Casa Bianca<br>per offrire la sua verità sull'Iraq"<br>Il dossier sull'uranio dal Niger non coinvolgeva la Cia<br>di CARLO BONINI e GIUSEPPE D'AVANZO<br><br> <br>ROMA - Per Nicolò Pollari, direttore del Sismi, le regole del suo mestiere sono inequivoche. Dice a Repubblica: "Sono il direttore dell'intelligence e il mio solo interlocutore istituzionale, dopo l'11 settembre, è stato a Washington il direttore della Cia, George Tenet. Come è ovvio, io parlo soltanto con lui...". Ma è proprio vero che le nostre barbefinte hanno lavorato soltanto con la Cia? Oppure hanno sostenuto anche gli sforzi clandestini dell'intelligence parallela creata da Dick Cheney e Paul Wolfowitz con il "gruppo Iraq", l'Office for Special plans del Pentagono, l'ufficio del consigliere per la Sicurezza nazionale, determinatissimi a trovare le prove utili per il "cambio di regime" a Bagdad? <br><br>È un fatto che, alla vigilia della guerra in Iraq e con la supervisione del consigliere diplomatico di Palazzo Chigi, Gianni Castellaneta (oggi ambasciatore negli Usa), il direttore del Sismi organizza a Washington la sua agenda con lo staff di Condoleezza Rice, in quegli anni consigliere per la Sicurezza nazionale alla Casa Bianca. Repubblica è in grado di documentare questo doppio binario del governo e dell'intelligence italiana. Almeno uno degli incontri "molto poco istituzionali" di Pollari e, come dicono gli agenti segreti, la "realizzazione di un sistema" che tiene insieme Governo - Intelligence - Informazione. <br><br>Breve riepilogo. Il Sismi di Nicolò Pollari vuole accreditare l'acquisto iracheno di uranio grezzo per fabbricare una bomba nucleare. Lo schema del gioco è alquanto trasparente. Le carte "autentiche" su un tentativo di acquisto in Niger (vecchia "intelligence" italiana degli anni Ottanta) le porta in dote il vicecapo del Centro Sismi di Roma (Antonio Nucera). Vengono affastellate con altra cartaccia costruita alla bell'e meglio con un furto simulato nell'ambasciata del Niger (se ne ricavano carta intestata e timbri). I documenti vengono mostrati dagli uomini di Pollari agli agenti della stazione Cia di Roma mentre un "postino" del Sismi, un tale di nome Rocco Martino, li consegna a Londra al MI6 di sir Richard Dearlove. <br> <br>È la prima istantanea. Torna utile per raccontare il secondo capitolo del Grande Inganno organizzato in Italia per costruire la necessità di un intervento militare in Iraq. Lo abbiamo già visto. Greg Thielmann, ex direttore del bureau di intelligence del Dipartimento di Stato, si ritrova sul tavolo il report "italiano" sull'uranio. Non ricorda la data esatta. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 10/25/05 12:06 pm<br></i>
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January 2001?!?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:08 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>January</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> 2001?!?<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: January 2001?!? I KNOW!?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:30 pm

I mentioned yesterday that the Italian daily La Repubblica ran a story reporting alleged new details about the origins of the Niger/uranium forgeries. Today they followed up with a second part of their report which could rock the foundations of official Washington.<br><br>***<br><br>Nicolo Pollari is the head of Italian military intelligence, SISMI. The Repubblica article claims that over the course of 2002 Pollari -- knowing the documents were fakes -- made repeated attempts to get them into the DC information stream by going around the CIA, which discounted them as fakes. This was to satisfy the expressed needs of Bush administration officials who were searching for some information to validate their claims about an Iraqi nuclear program.<br><br>Pollari's efforts were apparently in concert with the man who is now the Italian ambassador to the United States. And, perhaps most explosively, Pollari apparently arranged a secret meeting with Stephen Hadley -- then deputy National Security Advisor, and now National Security Advisor -- to discuss the documents.<br><br>The alleged date was September 9th, 2002.<br><br>The context here is important. The source of endless suspicion about when the documents first surfaced has been the timing and how that related to what was then happening in Washington. They surfaced just after the White House and the CIA had had a roundhouse battle over whether the President could make the Niger accusation in a speech in Cincinnati, Ohio. The CIA eventually prevailed, at least winning that round. The documents surfaced in Italy a couple days later. And the president eventually succeeded in levelling the claim in his subsequent State of the Union address.<br><br><more><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com">www.talkingpointsmemo.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> /<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 10/25/05 12:31 pm<br></i>
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Re: January 2001?!? I KNOW!?

Postby albion » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:20 pm

Silvio Berlusconi is scheduled to make a visit to Bush in DC...<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2005-10-17T181758Z_01_BAU765859_RTRUKOC_0_US-ITALY-USA.xml">on Halloween</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. Spooky... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: La Repubblica POLLARI GAVE FORGERIES TO HADLEY

Postby OnoI812 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:24 pm

Yeah that Bellaciao page is something else huh- I read that earlier this morning...there is no way high crimes weren't committed here.... <p></p><i></i>
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Re:Better translation of La Repubblica

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:44 pm

"Pollari went to the White House to offer his own truth on Iraq"<br><br>For Niccolo Pollari, Director of SIMSI, the rules of the trade are unequivocal. As he tells La Repubblica, "I am the Director of Intelligence and my only official contact in Washington after Sept 11. was with the Director of the CIA, George Tenet. Obviously, I spoke only with him..." But is it true that our spy has worked only with the CIA? Or has he also supported the secret parellel intelligence created by Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz with the "White House Iraq Group," the Office of Special Plans of the Pentagon, and an NSA official, all to find useful proof for "regime change" in Iraq?<br><br>It is a fact that, on the eve of war in Iraq, and with the supervision of the Italian Prime Minister, Giannie Castellaneta (now ambassador to the US) the SIMSI director in Washington, organized his agenda with the staff of Condalezza Rice, who was then the National Security Advisor to the White House. La Repubblica is now able to document this dual track of the government and Italian intelligence. At least one of Pollari's "unofficial meetings" is, as secret agents say, the "fullfillment of the system" that holds together Government - Intelligence - Information. <br><br>Short recap. The SIMSI of Niccolo Pollari wanted to "authenticate" the Iraqi acquisition of crude uranium to build a nuclear bomb. The game plan was pretty clear. Papers "authenticating" an attempted purchase in Niger were handed over to the head of SIMSI in Rome (Antonio Nucera). They came bundled together with other letters created with a faked theft of the Niger embassy (which obtained addressed and stamped papers). These documents were shown by one of Pollari's agents to a CIA agent in Rome; while a SIMSI "postman", named Rocco Martino, delivers them to the British MI6 headed by Sir Dearlove. <br><br>This is the first snapshot. A useful flashback to tell the second chapter of the "Great Deceit" organized in Italy to construct the necessity for a military invasion of Iraq. We have already seen this. Greg Theilman, ex-Director of the State Dept. Intelligence Bureau, received on his table an "Italian" report on the uranium. He does not recall the exact date. He speaks generically about the autumn of 2001. But the exact day can be important. Because on Oct. 15, 2001, three events became knotted together with one amazing coincidence... <p></p><i></i>
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The French Connection? forgeries

Postby OnoI812 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:46 pm

Agent behind fake uranium documents worked for France<br>The Italian businessman at the centre of a furious row between France and Italy over whose intelligence service was to blame for bogus documents suggesting Saddam Hussein was seeking to buy material for nuclear bombs has admitted that he was in the pay of France.<br>...<br>His admission to investigating magistrates in Rome on Friday apparently confirms suggestions that - by commissioning "Giacomo" to procure and circulate documents - France was responsible for some of the information later used by Britain and the United States to promote the case for war with Iraq.<br>Italian diplomats have claimed that, by disseminating bogus documents stating that Iraq was trying to buy low-grade "yellowcake" uranium from Niger, France was trying to "set up" Britain and America in the hope that when the mistake was revealed it would undermine the case for war, which it wanted to prevent.<br>Italian judicial officials confirmed yesterday that Mr Martino had previously been sought for questioning by Rome. Investigating magistrates in the city have opened an inquiry into claims he made previously in the international press that Italy's secret services had been behind the dissemination of false documents, to bolster the US case for war....<br><br>More:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2...">news.telegraph.co.uk/news.../news/2...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The French Connection? forgeries

Postby albion » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:59 pm

Nur al-Cubible has a translation of part 1 of the La Repubblica series:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://nuralcubicle.blogspot.com/2005/10/berlusconi-behind-fake-yellowcake.html">nuralcubicle.blogspot.com...wcake.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Crooked timber has excerpts from part 2:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/25/la-repubblica-scoop/">crookedtimber.org/2005/10...ica-scoop/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Too much information!! I am trying to keep in mind Josh Marshall's caveat from yesterday:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My experience with this case, going back almost two years now, is that whenever damaging new information was about to come out on the forgery mystery, the Italian government-cum-intelligence agencies put out substantial new information about what happened mixed with disinformation aimed at throwing people off their trail. And when I say 'their trail', I mean the complicity of Italian intelligence in the documents hoax itself.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006819.php">www.talkingpointsmemo.com...006819.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Now What About the SISMI Agent Calipari in Iraq?

Postby Walker » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:00 pm

There was speculation about how the death of Nicola Calipari might be related to this in the rescue of journalist Sgrena and possible connection to P-2... <p></p><i></i>
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