Sheehan to Be Arrested Thursday National Security Threat

[Sweejak]

I just got back, decided not to stay the night, I still have a job and needed to get back although as the sun was going down I started to regret it and am now thinking of the weekend.<br><br>Driving in I got the creepy feeling that I was approaching a sort Neo Mordor illuminated with Kleig lights. The rains had lifted and the sun started baking turning the air into a hot mist. <br><br>Cindy Sheehan appears to be nobody's fool, I watched her do an interview and she fielded tricky MSM questions flawlessly. I saw no, nada, handlers or advisors hanging around. She is not going to be easy to smear, they will have to take her out of context (Drudge) or use other trickery.<br><br>Lots of lefties, lots of independents, vets, Code Pink, media from all over. Some arrived who heard about it while travelling decided to change course and head to Crawford. Continual flow of people arriving and leaving so it was hard to get a count. At any one time there were probably 200 out on the roadside and maybe another 70 or so at the Crawford Peace House in town. Truthout says that the official count was 705 not including media. This is out in the middle of nowhere on the side of a country road, not an ideal place for any gathering.<br><br> The police presence was at a minimum and they were not threatening in the least. If I can judge by the stories of the previous few days the police have decided to let this thing ride for now. The mood was energized and friendly with clusters of people involved in discussion. The most interesting to me was a woman, a wife of a Baptist minister, who pulled along side the cross planters and decided to engage in a debate. I left when the conversation turned to SUV's. In ranching country people actually use SUV's. Anyway, after planting crosses the debate was still ongoing with utterly frustrated protesters... it's the cognitive dissonance! Towards the end they had decided that they would get some guitars and seranade the minister's wife with Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth". All was not lost as the debate got cast into a different direction by talking about what we can agree on which happened to be quite a lot. I could go on about this because it was an unexpected turn and it adresses one of my favorite memes, but in the end she agreed to go to a 'teach in" or something like it and traded cell phone numbers with an activist from the evil city of LA. Did we break a Baptist?<br><br>A thousand crosses were planted ( with rubber mallets for pity's sake) along the road to W. <br><br>I asked Cindy about Proldic's quotes, she categorically denies that she said any such thing. I'd be interested where you got those Proldic.<br><br>Oh, and the fire ants? As overblown as any other terror alert.... and call me a dreamer but Cindy Sheehan is a hero.<br><br>Most interesting day, a few pics not very good ones but I did shoot some good video I think:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2844/cindya1zk.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1766/roadtowsranch9ac.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2835/unloading5pr.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 8/11/05 10:58 pm<br></i>

[dbeach]

thanx for goin for me..<br><br>"Bush's downfall will merely usher in a more charming villian, this is true, but it would still be soooo cool to see his ass kicked out"<br><br>I of course would love to see bush get his karma pay back and popy o also<br><br>And yes things could get worse...all is possible.<br>I think that one door closes..while another door opens another more postive door..it been that way in my life and I know others who agree<br><br>the chinese picture for misfortune and opportunity are the same as most of ya know..<br><br><br>ya know where to find me...<br>waves of BLISS to all TRUTH seekers and keepers of the eternal flame of LIGHT <p></p><i></i>

[Sweejak]

For Dbeach.<br><br>Alex Grey<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6135/sgrey0ua.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 8/11/05 11:09 pm<br></i>

[Fearless]

It appears to be a letter from Cindy to Nightline.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://groups-beta.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/7f523b1a73be1a36?hl=en">groups-beta.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/7f523b1a73be1a36?hl=en</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Sj<br><br>ever see the 1960s tv sreaila 'Time Tuneel"?<br><br>It looks very much like your art..Montauk NY on Long island is about 10 miles from here..can see the lighthouse ona clear day<br><br>Montauk USAF base is "closed " now but still off limits.<br><br>rumors are that this is underground base of the real time tunnel aka the Philadelphia experiment..Wonder if the controllers are bombing us with radar beams /scalar to dumb us down..???<br><br>waves knocked me down today and my lilguy HUGE<br><br>Hurricaine next wk.<br><br>wonder if sauron cheney will nuke New england? be some wicked surf..sick humor..sorry<br><br>sauron shoud drop some osley and chill out...<br><br>'all you need is love...all you need is love..love ..love ..all you need is love..nothing you can sing that can't be sung.."<br><br>I don't care if the Beatles were brit m-5..drugs would helped most of these war mongers..acid pot..they all shouda dropped and inhaled..clinton NEVER inhaled..the ole commie.<br>.WHY was billy bob in Moscow in 1970???<br><br>now he is the new son of bush <p></p><i></i>

[Sweejak]

Dbeach, I never even heard of the series, i may have been overseas. That iisn't my artwork though, I wish it was. You should check out Alex Grey.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C394583283/E1400320413/index.html">homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/i...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>================ <br>Starman, I'm not sure what it is but she lends a voice to so many people. Right time, right place I suppose. I deeply hope this does not get hijacked... perhaps some of it is inevitable. I think it will be limited. She uses truth, she does not back off, she has a special confidence that only comes from... maybe loss. <p></p><i></i>

[Sweejak]

Fearless, it seems so, but I can't find it anywhere on the link at the bottom of the Bullyard letter.<br><br> If true she would either not remember or be lying. This is from memory:<br>I think I asked her, "Cindy, it was reported that you said your son died for Israel" To which she answered (paraphrasing) "No I never said anything like that" and she reiterated that. I wanted to ask her some follow up questions but the circumstances were not right, there were lots of other people asking questions so I left it at that.<br> <br>If true the question I guess is "is she anti-semitic?" For bringing up Israel? I already discussed my views on this, but in that letter<br>you'll note that she points fingers at the Saudis as well, they're semitc. <br> <br>No, she talks about PNAC and Israel, about Israel Firsters, and Perle, who with Feith and Wolfowitz were busted for spying for Israel. Are they not among the architects of this war? Fair game I'd say.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Fearless]

calling a spade a spade, IMO. She echos my feelings on the war, if we're pointing fingers. Criticizing Israel's government and policies isn't anti-semitic. <br><br>If Cindy did indeed write the letter, then what she says now is true - she didn't "say" anything like that - she wrote it. But she doesn't seem to be the type that would bend the truth.<br><br>I'm a little dense this morning, what again couldn't you find at the link? <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[GDN01]

Hey Swee - I was unale to go yesterday, but I'm heading out later today and staying the weekend. Sounds like it will be a crowded event by the time I get there!<br><br>I'm bringing a tent and hope to be able to stay there in Crawford. Will you be going back?<br><br>I will say this about the quotes being attributed to Cindy - just because a paper says she said this in an interview, or whatever, does not mean it is so. I was interviewed for newspaper stories when I was active in the anti-war movement before the invasion of Iraq. I learned very early on - and this may be helpful to others who find themselves being interviewed - to first take the interview "off the record". Anything you say to the reporter "off the record" can not be quoted, and in my experience, every reporter actually respected that. "Off the record" I would have a conversation with them about the anti-war movement, what their questions were going to be, what was the intended slant of their article, etc. After having the "off the record" conversation, I would have the reporter ask the questions, and only respond to the questions, with an answer that I gave in a very precise manner.<br><br>Reporters like to get you in to a conversation, on the record. And then things said in conversation can be twisted and taken out of context to make a story more inflammatory. And I didn't realize the "conversations" I was having with the reporter were going to be used in the article. I thought the questions and answers would be reported and our conversation in between questions, was just nice chit-chat between the reporter and me. <br><br>So, just because it's quoted as something Cindy said, it may be something taken out of context, if not an outright fabrication.<br><br>Will report back when I return! <p></p><i></i>

[AnnaLivia]

i suspect it's just that she's NEWLY awake. when you first start to puncture the thick web of lies and deceptions, there's alot of "info" that is intended to lead you to blame Israel to too large an extent (and stop there). if she goes deeper, she'll see it's not nearly that simple (even though Ariel Sharon is certainly a war criminal). <br><br>it's always unfortunate (to understate it) when listeners are influenced to think it's about religion, when it's really about money and power.<br><br>i'm wondering what one book proldic and seventhson would reccommend to someone newly awake, who hadn't the time to read volumes on the subject, so they can avoid the trap.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Sweejak]

I'm thinking of going again, it should get much bigger over the weekend, and you know, I missed Woodstock. Everyone to whom I wrote my experience seemed enthused and maybe this time I can drag a few with me.The follow up question I wanted to ask her was, "Do you think that this goes beyond Israel?" but when she answered the first question the second didn't seem relevant and then there was the crush of people around her. Besides, this isn't about Israel. <br>I'm downloading my video this morning and maybe I'll have some good quotes.<br>I'm a little out of the loop here because I don't have a TV anymore and for once this is being covered by the MSM.<br><br>If I go again look for a long hair with a red shirt, or my "Tyranny Respose Team" tee and camera gear. <br><br>Good advice about reporters. I did an interview with a German Film crew and used your idea, "I'm here because it's right". <br><br>Truthout has a couple of videos and a few comments;<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> t r u t h o u t | One Mother's Stand <br> By Scott Galindez<br> Thursday 11 August 2005 <br> 8:36 AM<br> Will Pitt is on his way back to Boston. After hearing Reverend Johnson of the SCLC talk about issuing a national call to join the vigil, I decided to stay until at least Sunday. I understand my friend Will's concerns about this historic event growing too big, but I believe that Cindy has already attracted a core of supporters and volunteers that will not allow their message to change or be expanded.<br> Cindy would love to see this continue to grow. I have been involved in many organizing efforts over the years. There is something special about this one and everyone should experience this. If you have a chance to get here and spend a few hours, a few days or weeks, it will be an experience you will never forget...<br> I am not the prolific blogger that Will is but I will try to keep you up to date throughout the day. Video updates are coming as well. t r u t h o u t will stay on top of this story. Please stay tuned to this page.<br><br><br> t r u t h o u t | One Mother's Stand <br> By William Rivers Pitt<br> Thursday 11 August 2005 <br> 10:35 PM<br> I am back in the hotel room, sunburned and ant-chomped and utterly thrilled. Being here these last two days was the rarest privilege. It was a Happening in the truest sense of the word, and it is growing. If you can get here, get here.<br> BUT: Understand that this thing could be killed by its own success in two ways. 1) It could get so large that the cops would be forced to shut it down. Remember, there is very little available space for people and cars. We were all in ditches. 2) A lot of people could show up and turn the thing into a multi-faced multi-subject disorganized mess, and that would be a disaster. If you go, focus on Cindy and the families of the fallen soldiers, and ending the war and calling George to account. Period.<br> I am off to Boston tomorrow morning but am going to try to get back soon. Meanwhile, t r u t h o u t Editor Scott Galindez is staying here with camera in hand, so the videos will continue on this page.<br> Cindy and the other families, and all the activists who were there, and everyone keeping this vigil, are patriots and the rarest of heroes. Don't let disgruntled outsiders or blathering right-wing pundits tell you any different. It was an honor to stand in that ditch, to watch these Americans demand accountability from the public servant over the hillside.<br> Thanks for reading, and keep an eye here for more videos over the next several days. This is William Rivers Pitt, signing off from Crawford, Texas. Peace y'all. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Am I hopeful? Obviously! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 8/12/05 11:13 am<br></i>

[Sweejak]

I'm probably dense this morning. It was onthe goldstar site that I could not find anything about the letter. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gsfp.org/">www.gsfp.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

That's why I put a ? mark next to it, it didn't seem right to me.<br><br>I got it originally from your boy Michael Rivero<br><br>whatreallyhappened.com <br><br>" A Letter from Cindy Sheehan to NIGHTLINE <br>Posted Aug 11, 2005 01:25 PM PST<br>Category: CURRENT EVENTS<br><br>I think I have fogured out why Google tags this page with a warning that it contains adult content. <br><br>"Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy." <br><br>Now you know where Google's loyalties lie. "<br> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Sj<br><br>this could be a wonder moment.<br><br>a lil ole gal knocking at the GIANTS.<br><br>Wood stcok was 8/15-8/17 1969<br>I just arrived in NYC from da Nam.<br><br>some taxi driver asked me if I wanted to go to Woodstock?<br><br>said no but asked if Snoopy was gonna be there.<br><br>ALWAYS wished I had gone..many of my pals went and tlaked of it for yrs<br><br>SIGH<br><br>PEACE and .."carry that weight.." <p></p><i></i>

[toscaveritas]

Amy Goodman did a piece and a long interview with Cindy today. <br><br>check it out at:<br><br>www.democracynow.org<br><br>wish I could also come -- good luck and 'thank you' to all who are going!<br><br>tosca <p></p><i></i>