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I'm on my way!

Postby GDN01 » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:55 pm

I'll look for you Swee! Clothes are washed, oil has been changed, and I'm heading out. I'm planning to wear my <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lysistrataproject.com/">Lysistrata Project</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> t-shirt, which looks like the illustration on the website I linked to. I actually participated in a public reading of Lysistrata as part of the 2003 protest - in College Station, on Texas A&M campus! <br><br>For those who aren't familiar with Lysistrata, it is a Greek play written by Aristophanes about women who were trying to stop war between their villages, being carried out by men. They decided to use their most influential power, the power of sex, and declared they would withhold sex from their husbands until they stopped fighting. It is actually a very humorous play!<br><br><br> LAMPITO<br>'Tis a hard thing, by the two goddesses it is! for a woman to<br>sleep alone without ever a strong male in her bed. But there, peace<br>must come first.<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Oh, my darling, my dearest, best friend, you are the only one<br>deserving the name of woman!<br>CLEONICE<br>But if-which the gods forbid-we do refrain altogether from what<br>you say, should we get peace any sooner?<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Of course we should, by the goddesses twain! We need only sit<br>indoors with painted cheeks, and meet our mates lightly clad in<br>transparent gowns of Amorgos silk, and perfectly depilated; they<br>will get their tools up and be wild to lie with us. That will be the<br>time to refuse, and they will hasten to make peace, I am convinced<br>of that!<br>LAMPITO<br>Yes, just as Menelaus, when he saw Helen's naked bosom, threw away<br>his sword, they say.<br>CLEONICE<br>But, oh dear, suppose our husbands go away and leave us.<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Then, as Pherecrates says, we must "flay a skinned dog," that's<br>all.<br>CLEONICE<br>Fiddlesticks! these proverbs are all idle talk.... But if our<br>husbands drag us by main force into the bedchamber?<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Hold on to the door posts.<br>CLEONICE<br>But if they beat us?<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Then yield to their wishes, but with a bad grace; there is no<br>pleasure in it for them, when they do it by force. Besides, there<br>are a thousand ways of tormenting them. Never fear, they'll soon<br>tire of the game; there's no satisfaction for a man, unless the<br>woman shares it.<br>CLEONICE<br>Very well, if you must have it so, we agree.<br>LAMPITO<br>For ourselves, no doubt we shall persuade our husbands to conclude<br>a fair and honest peace; but there is the Athenian populace, how are<br>we to cure these folk of their warlike frenzy?<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Have no fear; we undertake to make our own people listen to<br>reason. <br><br>[snip]<br><br> LYSISTRATA<br>No, by Aphrodite, unless it's decided by lot. But come, then,<br>Lampito, and all of you, put your hands to the bowl; and do you,<br>Cleonice, repeat for all the rest the solemn terms I am going to<br>recite. Then you must all swear, and pledge yourselves by the same<br>promises,-I will have naught to do whether with lover or husband...<br>CLEONICE (faintly)<br>I will have naught to do whether with lover or husband...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Albeit he come to me with an erection...<br>CLEONICE (her voice quavering)<br>Albeit he come to me with an erection... (in despair) Oh!<br>Lysistrata, I cannot bear it!<br>LYSISTRATA (ignoring this outburst)<br>I will live at home unbulled...<br>CLEONICE<br>I will live at home unbulled...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Beautifully dressed and wearing a saffron-coloured gown<br>CLEONICE<br>Beautifully dressed and wearing a saffron-coloured gown...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>To the end I may inspire my husband with the most ardent longings.<br>CLEONICE<br>To the end I may inspire my husband with the most ardent longings.<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Never will I give myself voluntarily...<br>CLEONICE<br>Never will I give myself voluntarily...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>And if he has me by force...<br>CLEONICE<br>And if he has me by force...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>I will be cold as ice, and never stir a limb...<br>CLEONICE<br>I will be cold as ice, and never stir a limb...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>I will neither extend my Persian slippers toward the ceiling...<br>CLEONICE<br>I will neither extend my Persian slippers toward the ceiling...<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Nor will I crouch like the carven lions on a knife-handle.<br>CLEONICE<br>Nor will I crouch like the carven lions on a knife-handle.<br>LYSISTRATA<br>And if I keep my oath, may I be suffered to drink of this wine.<br>CLEONICE (more courageously)<br>And if I keep my oath, may I be suffered to drink of this wine.<br>LYSISTRATA<br>But if I break it, let my bowl be filled with water.<br>CLEONICE<br>But if I break it, let my bowl be filled with water.<br>LYSISTRATA<br>Will you all take this oath?<br>ALL<br>We do. <br><br>-------------<br><br><br>I've made a similar oath, including all males who support George Bush's presidency.<br><br>At the risk of being vulgar, I've declared my bush a NO BUSH zone! HAA! <p></p><i></i>
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Postby dbeach » Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:44 pm

very funny<br><br>I think if the wives of the elites would simply wake up to the<br>the realization that they have a unique opportunity to contribute to the survival of the human race..by merely joining with the Truthseekers in exposing the HATE..<br><br>so gals get a good attorney and tell us who planned and profitted from 9/11 and the alleged scheduled nuking of Iran and the USA<br><br>Inquiring minds do want to know???<br><br><br>Koran{9:11}<br><br>"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah;and there was peace"<br><br>Notice the verse number??<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I'm on my way!

Postby ZeroHaven » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:05 pm

if only i had legal means of getting there..<br>here's one piece of ammo for the road:<br><br>An employee who repeatedly ignores the requests of his employer gets FIRED. That rat bastard is an employee of our United States, and is ignoring many of his employers. What needs to be done?<br>-----<br>i'd so love to see somebody say THAT on CNN <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_smartypants.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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Absolutely correct

Postby Fearless » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:06 pm

I couldn't find anything there either about the letter either. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sheehan to Be Arrested Thursday National Security Threat

Postby heath7 » Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:17 pm

Viggo Mortenson, from <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Lord of the Rings</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> made it out to Camp Casey to see Cindy! He should be the first in a line of celebrities that make the pilgrimmage, I suspect. <br><br>I am loving watching this play out, and I can't wait to hear other first-hand accounts here at RI. <p></p><i></i>
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Re:This is a very moving story

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:22 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4338915&mesg_id=4338915">www.democraticunderground...id=4338915</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>funkybutt (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-13-05 12:50 PM<br>Original message <br>Anne Wright And The Man In The Truck - story from Crawford <br> Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 12:56 PM by funkybutt<br><br>Not sure if any of you have seen this yet but it really touched me. I wanted to pass it along. By Sapphire Harvey<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.upbeatdefiance.com/xoops/modules/news/articl...">www.upbeatdefiance.com/xo.../articl...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>This article is the first in an ongoing series of glimpses into the lives of people visiting and staying at Camp Casey. Please feel free to share these on your own websites, along with a trackback or link to us.<br><br><br>"Annie Spell called in this morning to share some brief glimpses into the lives and personalities of the people who have joined them at Camp Casey. I've debated what order to share these stories in, wanting to ensure that each and every story was read, because they are all so powerful, so moving. How was I to choose?<br><br>I've decided to trust in the process, to trust that each story will be heard. One story, however, clearly had to be first. And interestingly enough, this story involves a man who is not particularly supportive of Cindy's efforts. Yet it is his story, above all others, that has moved most of us to near tears.<br><br>So let me first introduce you to "Anne Wright And The Man In The Truck."<br><br>Anne Wright is another one of the, what Annie Spell calls, "head honchos of the camp." Anne is lovingly referred to as the "Camp Commandantè." As a 20 year military vet, she is a member of Veterans for Peace. Annie says of Anne, "She has a wonderful smile. When you see her, you instantly think of her as a good friend."<br><br>Yesterday, Camp Casey was on high-alert. They were aware that the counter protesters were expected to arrive yesterday afternoon, so everyone was being hyper vigilant. Of key importance to everyone involved with the organization of Camp Casey was the idea that our vigil sitters remain calm and peaceful.<br><br>As everyone was going about their business, waiting for the counter protesters to arrive, a man drove up in a huge diesel pickup truck. You know the kind, with the big doolie wheels and such. He parked right in the center of the triangle – right in the space no one from Camp is supposed to be. He parked in such a way that the front end of his truck was facing directly towards the tents where Cindy and the other military families sleep – and where all the crosses of fallen soldiers have been erected.<br><br>The man sat in his truck for quite some time while our people looked on and waited to see what he intended. After a while, one of the vets from Camp Casey walked up to the man’s truck and informed him that no one was allowed to park in the triangle. The gentleman identified himself as the father of a fallen soldier. Anne Wright walked up to this man’s truck and began speaking with him through his rolled down window. He told her that he did not support what Cindy and the others are doing at Camp Casey, but he wanted to come and see if his son’s name was on one of the crosses. Anne invited him to come walk the crosses with her. The man got out of his truck and went with Anne to move up and down the rows of crosses, looking together for his son’s name. When they found it, they sat down in front of it, wrapped their arms around each other and cried together.<br><br>The entire Camp was affected by this event. I suspect that there were few dry eyes in our little corner of Crawford yesterday afternoon. I know that even as Annie related this story to me, I was choking up and having a very difficult time typing as she spoke, her voice cracking as she related the tale. Much has been said on both sides of this issue about what is “right” and what is “good” and what is “honorable.” If you ask me, the interaction between Anne and “The Man In The Truck” is the perfect representation of what we are trying to accomplish – Peaceful coexistence among people of different beliefs, politics and ideologies. I don’t know who “the man in the truck” is, but should he ever read this, I want him to know how much his story touched me. I want him to know that I honor him, and I honor his child, and I honor the sacrifice his family has made in pursuit of their ideals. To you, Sir, I bow my head in respect."<br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re:Photos

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:34 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050813/capt.txlm11808130128.bush_peace_mom_txlm118.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Reid Haney, 3, top, looks on as his sister Shelby Haney, 7, places a flag at a cross along the road leading to President Bush's ranch near Crawford, Texas, Friday, Aug. 12, 2005. The two children came with their parents when a conservative radio talk show host organized a bus load of President Bush supporters to come from Dallas-Ft. Worth to counter protest the Sheehan supporters. (AP Photo/LM Otero)<br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050813/capt.txlm11908130130.bush_peace_mom_txlm119.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Teresa Jensen, of Allen, Tx., places a flag at a cross along the road leading to President Bush's ranch near Crawford, Texas, Friday, Aug. 12, 2005. Jensen came with a conservative radio talk show host that organized a bus load of President Bush supporters to come from Dallas-Ft. Worth to counter protest the Sheehan supporters. (AP Photo/LM Otero)<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050812/capt.txlm11308122213.bush_peace_mom_txlm113.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>A sheriff deputy in a riot helmet stands guard before President Bush's motorcade passes protestors near Crawford, Texas, Friday, Aug. 12, 2005. (AP Photo/LM Otero)<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050812/capt.txlm11208122212.topix_bush_peace_mom_txlm112.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Wearing his Marine fatigues, former Marine corporal Mike McNeil, of Ft. Worth, looks at a name on one of the crosses lining the side of the road leading to President Bush's ranch near Crawford, Texas, Friday, Aug. 12, 2005. McNeil, who served in the first Gulf War, says he plans to read each name on the crosses for the soldiers killed in Iraq to show support for their families. (AP Photo/LM Otero)<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050812/capt.txlm11108122157.peace_mom_ark_txlm111.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Barbara Porchia of Camden, Ark. stands on the roadside near the President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, Friday, Aug. 12, 2005. Porchia's son, Pfc. Johnathan Cheathham, died at age 19 when his convoy was attacked west of Baghdad. (AP Photo/LM Otero)<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Michael Rivero Is a Racist Provacateur

Postby proldic » Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:36 pm

Either she did write those words, which means she has been seriously misled, has zero cred, and is complicit in spreading the most dangerously virulent form of historical limited hangout there is, <br><br>or<br><br>She is being ham-fistedly smeared by people who are trying to stoke the flames of the oldest divide-and-conquer "meme" in history.<br><br>Either way right-wing operative Rivero shows his hand.<br><br>Many proud Americans:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://cryptome.org/brp/bush-ranch2.htm">cryptome.org/brp/bush-ranch2.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>Man, don't we have a duty to fight this shit that's obviously designed to mislead, distract, and hijack the (majority) deeply pro-human Americans, and these moments (and more moments will be coming)?<br> <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re:Sheehan means PEACE

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:02 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com.nyud.net:8090/albums/v288/cleita/Sheehancoatofarms.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>The name Sheehan in Ireland is derived from the Gaelic O'Siodhachain Sept who were based in Limerick. This name, together with the variant Sheahan, rank among the eighty most frequently found names in the country. It is in Counties Limerick and Cork that the majority of descendants can still be found.<br>http://www.irishsurnames.com <br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There is nothing more dangerous than an oppressed people who acquire the first weapons of education and organisation.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Bernadette Devlin McAliskey <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Michael Rivero

Postby Qutb » Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:58 pm

when the Sibel Edmonds story first surfaced in 2002-2003 or thereabouts, I recall Justin Raimondo (of Antiwar) wrote that she was Israeli (he didn't claim to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>know</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that she was, be he <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>deduced</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> it) and that her story was about Israeli espionage in the FBI. Which, of course, it wasn't, at least not the parts that we know. Raimondo, who used to work for fellow Antiwar contributor Pat Buchanan, obviously has a rather limited agenda. <br><br>Rivero too used to be a Republican. Two individuals hardly make a pattern, but it is interesting how both of them are doing their best to spread the "it's all about Israel" meme.<br><br>If this is a letter which for some reason is in the possession of Michael Rivero and nobody else, I would be sceptical about its authenticity. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Michael Rivero Is a Racist Provacateur

Postby Sweejak » Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:20 pm

Sheehan didn't say Jews killed my son, but she did say Bush murdered my son, she also says this is Bush's accountability moment. If Sheehan said what she apparently said in the letter, well, she has reasons to say it. Personally I think Annalivia has a good point. I have only found one source for the letter and that is the ridiculously tagged "adult" google site.<br><br> It is not illogical for people to think Israel is a big part of this. When facts, and there are many facts, are pointed out however people immediately get called anti-semitic, an ad hominum and first line of defense for Zionist deniers who apparently think that Israel can do no wrong and if someone says they do, well then, they must be racists. Bull. And what is really bad about this is that when people get slammed down like that it just increases the suspicion and then they see that as confirmation for their suspicions. It's a stupid tactic.<br><br>What if everytime someone pointed to American spying or torture or whatever and we said.... hold it there buddy, your a racist anti-American, and what if every time an American pointed out American atrocities we called them a self-hating American? They might shut up. Would that be success? In fact it is our job to point out the things that are being done in our name and resist them, not to cover them up as racism.<br><br>Some people think it's all about oil. They must be oil haters, indeed i think some of them are. Some think it's all Saudis ... obviously they must be anti-semites, just different semites I guess. Some think it's all Christians... anti-Christians! The smart thing to do is for Christians to point out and expose the phony Christians just like Muslims do when they see their religion being hijacked. You know when Sharon says "we the Jewish people control America and the Americans know it." or when this is said; "From the perspective of Jews, it [9-11]is the most important public relations act ever committed in our favor."-- Ehud Sprinzak you have to ask just what are people supposed to think. And when it's not countered by Israel supporters and instead called anti-semitic?<br><br>Why don't you write Rivero with your concerns? I'd be interested in what he says. In fact Rivero writes very little beyond snarky comments. I think it's up to the reader to weigh the info on his site according to their belief system. Why don't you go after his links, like Haaretz or the Observer, the Herald, the Independent, Reuters and Wapo.. are they racist too?<br><br>This is what people are using to call the Crawford Peace House racists:<br>Apparently during "man of peace" Ariel Sharon's visit they unfurled a long banner listing the UN resolutions that Israel has ignored. That is racist? HA! We only hold certain countries guilty for ignoring UN resolutions. Why?<br><br>Meanwhile, I've gone off topic enough. The Sheehan thing is about her, her son, and Bush's lies and she represents millions of people all over the world.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Cindy attached her letter to Nighline in an email

Postby Fearless » Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:26 pm

to the Bullyard Google Group. That is where her comments about Israel are found. Rivero then posted the link to the Bullyard group and made his usual comments. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://groups-beta.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/7f523b1a73be1a36?hl=en">groups-beta.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/7f523b1a73be1a36?hl=en</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Someone needs to ask Cindy if that is indeed her email and letter to clear this up.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cindy attached her letter to Nighline in an email

Postby ZeroHaven » Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:46 pm

check the headers, they match other posts. it's legit. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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era of lowered expectations

Postby Ferry Fey » Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:54 pm

I'm a little perplexed about something, can you folks help me out?<br><br>I think it is very brave of Cindy to be doing this, and think she may help swing the herd.<br><br>But does she <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>really</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> think that doing this is going to get an honest, coherent answer from George Bush that would be satisfaction enough?<br><br>I personally don't think he can do anything requiring honesty or coherency, and that it is an unrealistic goal if that's what she really has her heart set on..<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cindy attached her letter to Nighline in an email

Postby Sweejak » Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:23 pm

I should have asked the follow up question or at least printed out the quotes proldic had posted just before I left town. I expect, since this is being used to smear her, that she will address it at some point.. maybe GDN will get a follow up.<br><br>========<br>Ferry Fey, I think the object is just what Sheehan says; George Bush's acountability moment. She won't get an honest answer, if she did W would have to resign. That is the point I think. <br><br>I remember an interview W did with an Irish reporter who asked him questions like what the press used to do over here. Everyone thought it was outrageously tough and disrespectful. Trust me, Sheehan would do much better than that Irish reporter.<br><br>My heart is on my sleeve on this one. I don't often allow myself to get hopeful about these kinds of actions especially since I think we are facing problems of cosmic dimensions. If I have to eat my words or taste hope turn bitter --- again... I don't care. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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