Does arresting Cindy make you feel like a man, Dubya?

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Does arresting Cindy make you feel like a man, Dubya?

Postby Peachtree Pam » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:13 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/092705Conover/092705conover.html">www.onlinejournal.com/Com...nover.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Opinion <br><br>How stupid can you be, arresting Cindy Sheehan while the whole world is watching?<br><br>By Bev Conover<br>Online Journal Editor & Publisher<br><br><br>September 27, 2005—Does having Cindy Sheehan arrested and hauled off to the pokey to be photographed and finger-printed make you feel like a man, Dubya? Is this payback for Cindy's Camp Casey in Crawford?<br><br>Better pour yourself another drink, George. Maybe pop some more pills, too. You're gonna need 'em.<br><br>Nothing can ignite our determination to rid our country of you and your band of criminals than seeing a mother, who opposed your illegal war before her son died in it and who wants all the killing stopped, arrested for not having a permit to sit down in front of the house—the White House—that belongs to the people along with all the other government buildings and public spaces in Washington, DC.<br><br>You're nothing but a miserable, drunken weasel who couldn't take five minutes out of your five-week vacation, which we the people paid for, to meet face-to-face with Cindy and answer her questions.<br><br>In Crawford, Texas, Cindy told reporters, "I want to ask the president, why did he kill my son? He said my son died in a noble cause, and I want to ask him what that noble cause is."<br><br>Those are reasonable questions, George. Were you fearful that if you met with Cindy to answer them, she might ask if your cause is so noble why your daughters and your siblings' progeny, along with Cheney's daughters, aren't risking their lives to fight for it?<br><br>And you surely didn't have the guts to stay in Washington this past weekend to witness first-hand what the people think about you and your wars. Hurricane Rita provided you with the perfect excuse to flee to NORTHCOM in Denver to plot the completion of the military takeover of the US, in order to deal with us rabble.<br><br>Do you think we're so stupid that we're buying into your nonsense that the military can better perform as first responders to disasters—natural and those cooked up by you and your murderous buddies, such as 9/11?<br><br>Don't you think we're on to why your venomous sidekick, Cheney, chose this past weekend of all weekends to have elective surgery to repair aneurisms in his knees? He's about as much a man as you are, George. But opting for surgery looked better than taking cover in one of his palatial bunkers. It's too bad they didn't operate on his skull to let all the filth out, instead of his knees.<br><br>Democrats, wipe the smirk off your faces, because you fled Washington like rats, too. We won't forget that, either, so you better go shopping for votes among the Busheviks or take early retirement.<br><br>It's interesting that some writers have suggested that Dubya is hitting the bottle again because his conscience is bothering him about the evil things he is responsible for. To be sure, the list is long: stolen elections in 2000, 2002, 2004; 9/11; the illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq; destroying the environment, the economy and what is left of the social safety net; giving his rich friends tax cuts at the expense of everyone else; tearing down the remaining wall between church and state; failing to provide the money needed to repair the levees around New Orleans; ignoring the plight of the poor and mainly African American victims of Hurricane Katrina for days while he played and raised money for Republicans, then when he finally responded it was with costly staged photo ops (think about the precious fuel burned up at your expense), as he had the victims of Katrina scattered to the four corners of the country; and, in the wake of Rita, flying hither and yon for more staged photo ops, while telling the people to conserve fuel;<br><br>and on and on and on . . . <br><br>No, a stroke of conscience isn't what is causing George to drown himself in booze. It's self-pity. Like all criminal psychopaths—and this psychopath in the White House happens to be a serial killer and war criminal—he's afraid of getting caught. He knows the day of reckoning is coming and he is trying to relieve his anxiety with alcohol and pills.<br><br>Yes, George, the day of reckoning is coming and you may have hastened it by allowing Cindy to be arrested. No denials, please. You are responsible for her arrest. You could have prevented it by telling the US Park Police that under no circumstances was she to be touched.<br><br>But you didn't do that. Instead, you allowed a spectacle for the whole world to see that gave our hero, Cindy Sheehan, a simple mom from California, near-martyr status. Thank you, George. You gave us quite a gift.<br><br>Yes, indeed, the day of reckoning is coming. So every one of you yellow-bellied creeps in Washington, in both wings of the Money Party, better start shaking in your overpriced shoes, because we are aiming to throw out the rest of the trash along with George, Dick, Karl, Condi, Rummy, et al.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Does arresting Cindy make you feel like a man, Dubya?

Postby Dreams End » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:54 am

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this a civil disobedience action in which they planned to get arrested? Most of us have participated in something similar...I did an intentional tresspass one time onto a military base. Another time, we disrupted Atlanta mayor Andrew Young's speech as he opened a new mall. The building of the mall had disrupted the area's homeless and they'd promised some compensatory actions which they never followed up on. As a side note, it was really pretty amusing. The event was supposed to be outside but it was raining, so it was held within the mall (Underground Atlanta). This made our planned disruption MUCH louder. At the appointed time we started chanting "Atlanta keeps the homeless underground!" and using our various noisemakers (one of us actually had a siren in her purse.) We were booed of course, but what was funny is that we had some police whistles, and when we started blowing them, people thought they were police..and everyone got really quiet and only our chanting could be heard. There were only about 6 of us I think. Naturally, we were arrested (though really, for what? Making noise in a mall? We actually got on CNN!<br><br>Months later, some lawyer with an attitude volunteered to take our case and got the charges dropped. this guy was hilarious. Came to court with an earring of a hand flipping a bird. The night before he got busy so that on the day of the trial he dropped no fewer than 32 separate motions to dismiss on the prosecution. At one point, he managed to get the prosecution temporarily REMOVED from the room to discuss an issue with the judge (really, he was just messing with the prosecutors.) He even tried to subpoena Mayor Andrew Young as a character witness as one of the activists was actually known to the mayor. It was classic...the prosecution gave up and dropped charges. We realized that we were, by using this lawyer, receiving some special legal help that regular poor people would never have, and this kinda went against the spirit of our protest, but MAN was it worth it.<br><br>Okay, sorry for the digression. I just started thinking about this incident...one of my favorites.<br><br>Anyway, my point was that if someone does an intentional CD action, you can't really complain if they get arrested. However, if they are treated badly by the police or else if they are given unreasonably harsh sentences (or if the law that is broken is, in itself, unjust) then we can complain.<br><br>Maybe I'm wrong about the circumstances here, but that's my take.<br><br>final take on Sheehan...I think she's done good things (caveat on her Israel comments, but I'm not even sure she made them) but whatever her merits, it makes me nervous to have so much of the movement focused on one person. Not just nervous for the movement, but also for her....it's easy to discredit or otherwise remove one person....just a thought.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Cindy

Postby Peachtree Pam » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:58 pm

Hi Dreams End,<br><br>Thanks for the comments and the anecdote from Atlanta, which I know well. <br><br>I am astoished there was no permit to demonstate in front of the White House, but as you say, it may have been deliberate. It was still a stupid move to arrest her, elevating Cindy to martyr, so I do not understand the tactic.<br><br>I agree with you that there is a danger that the movement becomes too focused on Cindy, but she is so effective that it is difficult to know how to make the leadership more diverse.<br><br>Dreams End, do you have any feelings about Bush falling into disfavor with the PTB, and perhaps starting down the road to oblivion or worse? Or do you think that he remains an effective front guy for the PTB and his demise is wishful thinking?<br><br>I value your comments along with all other RIs....<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cindy

Postby Dreams End » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:06 pm

I think Cindy has said that the point of her protest was that one should not need a permit to demonstrate, which is the law she broke. That being the case, I think that demonstration is in the fine tradition of civil disobedience. She's refusing to pay the fine.<br><br>Yeah, I think Bush is falling out of favor. Just because the "Bush is nuts" theme is being put forward to explain much deeper, more complex realities, it doesn't mean he isn't nuts...because man, he is losing it. Someone posted how he couldn't even pose while pretending to listen to a briefing on Rita without getting pissed off. Cheney's in the hospital, so who does that leave to run the show if Bush is pushed out? Speaker Hastert would be next. That doesn't seem too thrilling from a PTB perspective...I'm not sure what will happen. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cindy

Postby pugzleyca3 » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:38 pm

I'm not that up on what Cindy's intentions were at the White House demonstration, but the fact that Bush is losing it, is becoming more and more obvious in his public speaking.<br><br>Last night I was flipping through channels and he was speaking to the press. He stuttered and eh ahed so much it was hard to catch what his point was. It didn't look good. I can't help but laugh everytime I see one of them getting theirs in front of God and everybody. Watching him flounder felt like a victory of sorts. <br><br>Also, if you watch him speak, he is doing this thing with his lower jaw. Kind of like someone on speed or some kind of stimulant, if you've ever been around anyone doing those kinds of drugs, you'll know what I'm talking about. Next time you see him, see if you can't catch him doing that. <br><br>Maybe he's on Ritalin. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 9/27/05 1:39 pm<br></i>
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Bush's jaw

Postby professorpan » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:21 pm

Yes, the Bush "jaw wriggle" has been very apparent of late.<br><br>One possibility is that Bush is suffering from tardive dyskinesia, which is sometimes caused by antipsychotic drugs. And I found this on Dailykos:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/9/18/113246/397/239#239">www.dailykos.com/comments...97/239#239</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Remember, Poppy Bush was on Halcyon. Maybe something more than evil lurks in the Bush bloodline... something like mental illness.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bush's jaw

Postby pugzleyca3 » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:58 pm

Oh, my goodness. I didn't know that others had written about this. Am I getting good at detecting this crap or what? (laughing out loud, but frightened at the same time)<br><br>I've always figured that our leaders were on all kinds of goodies. For pain, for example. Now this may sound silly but this has always kind of bugged me. After the O.J. trial was hot and heavy, Marcia Clarke (sp?) wrote a book about it. In it she had an abcess (sp?) on her gum and it was excruciating. (I have had this same thing and let me tell you, you can't think of anything but that pain. It is killer.) Well, anyway, she wrote about going to the dentist, they put her on some kind of drug that put her out, they fixed the problem and she felt just wonderful. Energized... who the hell ever left a dental office feeling anything other than traumatized over this kind of problem? <br><br>Point here is, did something slip in her writing here? I have never had such a wonder drug offered to me for this same problem. <br><br>She had to be fit for trial. At least able to walk and talk. LOL! <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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