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Re: Johnny Gosch had blue eyes

Postby ZeroHaven » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:55 pm

ok, since I don't use photoshop I won't tell you that. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>You don't have to "buy it". Here's a snapshot spread, make your own judgement. <br>Keep in mind that you can also see what he's looking at reflecting in his eyes, so his right eye has a dark streak across it far beyond where either his or a contact's iris should be.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/eyeballs.jpg" target="top"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/th_eyeballs.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>Unless this man has hazel-green eyes, a torn right cornea and a lazy left eye (which is statistically possible), I say this is a brown-eyed man wearing greenish contacts.<br> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=zerohaven>ZeroHaven</A> at: 9/28/05 2:57 pm<br></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch had blue eyes

Postby Dreams End » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:00 pm

pan<br><br>--can you link to Esquire article or your post about it? <br><br>I have another idea that it's possible that even the man Noreen met with wasn't even her son. But that's another story.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch had blue eyes

Postby marykmusic » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:06 pm

The Jeff-Gannon-is-Johnny theory really doesn't matter a heckuva lot... it's unfortunate (horrible; unforgivable) that children disappear, but perhaps we SHOULD concentrate on Jeff Gannon and his White House shenanigans. It's true that the whole sweater could unravel if we could just pull this string. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Postby somebody » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:41 pm

Pan said:<br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Gannon ain't Gosh and Gosh ain't Gannon. I've posted about this<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <br>So? Nothing to see here?? hmmmm<br> <br>Zero said:<br> <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Thanks I had no idea about the porn thing, but that reminded me of why these guys look familiar. Sadly my friend's site has expired or I'd show you pics.<br>the general goth/raver/bdsm community in DC all go to pretty much the same clubs. if the pudgy guy's trying to be a porn star it'd probably have been either Bound or Entre Nous. the asian guy i could swear i saw at Alchemy a few times. i guess it doesnt really matter."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yeah, it does matter! And Gannon's site had expired too. Maybe it's the same one you're thinking of. You can find the saved site, and lots of the pics at Americablog.com on the left side of the home page, or just google Jeff Gannon and get on americablog that way. Take a look, maybe you have a missing link.<br>And I think the resemblance between Gannon and Gosh's mother is striking. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan

Postby professorpan » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:27 pm

My bad: It was Vanity Fair, not Esquire.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/050509roco02">www.vanityfair.com/commen...0509roco02</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The article was as puffy as a marshmallow, but the reporters spoke to Gannon's parents, friends who knew him in school, and so forth. There are pictures of him in high school floating around on the Web, and I think even some earlier photos.<br><br>Y'all can continue to believe he's Gosch -- I have no problem with that. I just don't see the evidence.<br><br>And I still say you can't blow up photos from the web and analyze them like ZeroHaven did. That's what Richard Hoagland does when he sees crystal towers on the Moon -- blowing up images creates errors. There are plenty of photos of Gannon on the Web:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=%22jeff+gannon%22&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images">images.google.com/images?...rch+Images</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>You might have better luck discerning his eye color by checking a higher resolution photo if you can find one.<br><br>I think the Gannon saga is a major, serious story -- his access to the White House, the times he entered and didn't leave (and vice versa), and, frankly, who he was servicing -- all of it is potentially explosive. If the story had taken place during the Clinton era we all know what would have happened.<br><br>I just think the Gosch angle was a red herring. If I see evidence that's not the case I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But despite many attempts to prove he's Gosch, I haven't seen anything remotely resembling evidence.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan

Postby Dreams End » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:05 pm

Pan,<br><br>Not to belabor the unproveable, but this is all I found about Gannon's early life in that article. No dates at all up until 1989 and the childhood stuff simply contains two quotes from "childhood friends". Not even a mention why they didn't give their names. That, and his famous quote that his life "hasn't exactly been linear" still leave me open to the possibility that something weird (besides the very obvious weirdness of his unexplained access) is going on:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Gannon was raised in Cochranton, Pennsylvania, a small town in the northwestern corner of the state, by a family of union-oriented, Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy Democrats. When James was in high school, the Guckerts moved to Conneaut Lake, a resort town 17 miles to the northwest. His classmates remember him as intelligent, charismatic, self-centered, manipulative. He was voted student-council president and best dancer, played football, and edited the school paper and yearbook; he wore his hair long in the style of that era, like the sixth member of the Dave Clark Five. He was a favorite with girls, even though there were rumors he wasn't interested in them. "He just brought kind of a level of sexuality to our class that was not there until he got there," says one student.<br><br>For college he went diagonally across Pennsylvania to West Chester State College, near Philadelphia, where he joined a fraternity and wrote on sports for the school newspaper. He had free weights in his room, which his friends came to call "J.D.'s Gym." Some surmised he was gay, but he wasn't conspicuous about it. "There was a little bit of a mysterious side to him," recalls one. "He would take off and go to Philly by himself and stuff like that." He received a bachelor of science in education, and he taught for an unhappy year in a public school. He then spent several years working for a prominent local landscaper and horticulturist, who in 1989 arranged flowers for one of George H. W. Bush's inaugural balls. Politically, he drifted rightward. But at that point, at least, he didn't attempt to hide his sexual orientation, even playing right field for a Philadelphia gay bar in the City of Brotherly Love Softball League.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <br>1989 is the first date mentioned. Admittedly, Gosch would have been only about 17 or 18 then, so the dates wouldn't work out. So, if the second paragraph has actually been verified (other than simply taking Gannon's word) it would seem to rule out Gosch. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: those guys

Postby ZeroHaven » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:36 pm

just to answer before going to bed:<br><br>the site with club pictures wasn't taken down for any reason other than the guy who took the pics is a meth addict and forgot to pay his bill.<br><br>if it's of any value, one of my club friends remembers these guys as Dale (shaved guy) and Angelo. Good reason to remember Dale is flabby guys shouldn't wear O-ring bondage shirts in public. ewwww! The face looked familiar but with a shirt on people look different. They told people they were military, but that's nothing unusual. i'll save you the stories, but most military guys at club are either bi or cross-dressers.<br>Last time seen around was like 2 years ago so that's that. <br><br>you people keep calling him Gannon but the name from googling is Jimmy Guckert... easier to find life history if you use the real name, no? Since Dale is his middle name, that kind of seals it that it's the same guy my friend and I remember. <br><br>The man's eyes are brown in the few pictures of any quality I found. if he claims they are green on some porno site, that would explain the green contacts now wouldn't it?<br><br>- to ProfessorPan, if you think you can find "better" quality images via google --- you're nuts. Images designed for the web SUCK in quality due to heavy compression and small number of pixels. click the "Large" sizes button and see how many results you get that show this guys eyes... yeah.<br><br>as for this guy being that Gosch kid.. not from the pictures I saw he aint.. unless he's had plastic surgery to adjust his brow line. I see the resemblance in the lower face, but it's the bone structure that the eyebrows sit on that doesn't match -- that generally doesn't change as you get older, even if your lids get droopy and brows get bushy. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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Zero, check this out

Postby somebody » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:08 pm

Zero,<br>I hope you see this in the a.m., it may all look familiar! Here's THE link. Lots of pics, and lots of info & says he was in the military "part-time". Nick name "Bulldog". I think the reason given for closing the site was non payment....but not sure. It's been awhile since I've read this. Pretty unforgetable stuff! He also has a uber conservative blog. Really long, interesting story with lots of screen captures of the site! Good luck <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/man-called-jeff.html">americablog.blogspot.com/...-jeff.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Zero, check this out

Postby chiggerbit » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:46 pm

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Re: Zero, check this out

Postby Dreams End » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:43 am

Gannon's the name he used when he was a "reporter" in the White House and that's what got him famous. I don't know about now, but his pics showed him to be in very good shape when he was hustling. But time does have a way of changing that sort of thing.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Gannon is a walking political nuke. Not to be ignored.

Postby Watchful Citizen » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:52 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/church/rockcomm/html/Rockefeller_0131a.htm">history-matters.com/archi..._0131a.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"The Office of Security maintained extensive computer lists of approximately 300,000 persons who had been arrested for offenses related to homosexuality, but these lists were destroyed in 1973."<br><br>*******<br><br>(This is why the GOP keeps recharging the sexuality divisevness quotient for use in both the public culture wars of 'morality theater' and the private wars to control men in power with the handle between their legs. I found this in the 1975 Rockefeller Commission Report in RI's data dump forum. Can you imagine the blackmail going on? I doubt the records were " destroyed.") <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Zero, check this out

Postby ZeroHaven » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:11 pm

Hey thanks for the link.. yeah there's no question that this Jim/John/Dale/Bulldog is all the same guy. <br><br>So basically he was a hot marine stud until like 2000 and then he stopped working out and got pudgy. Maybe those WH farts prefer a little cushion? I dunno...<br><br>What makes me REALLY curious is what the hell happens in the marines that makes guys get all whacko in the sexuality department. A very few become "super macho" like the Chet character in Wierd Science... but the rest are all aspiring extras for the Rocky Horror Picture Show. <br>*shrug*<br>Yeah you might think I'm generalizing, but I haven't personally met a former marine who was under 50 and suburbia-straight. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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Blackmail

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:17 pm

Citizen: "Can you imagine the blackmail going on? I doubt the records were " destroyed.") <br><br>Ain't that the truth! What embarrassingly weak individuals we have in charge!<br><br>Chigger... that link worked for me... but let me know if it isn't working, and I'll try another. thx <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Blackmail

Postby dbeach » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:40 pm

blackmail.extortion,bribery,murders,assassinations,dope runnin,arms peddlin .and sexual escapades/extortion to keep all their SECRETS<br><br>Their strength is in their hideous secrets..<br><br>Knowledge of their power structure and patterns keeps them off balanced and leaving clue's of theri crimes.<br><br>The elite criminals fear us and hate us. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Blackmail

Postby GDN01 » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:54 pm

J.G. - which ever name he chooses, the initials stay the same - never served in the military. He lied about that and used it as a cover to attract a certain clientele. <p></p><i></i>
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