UN human rights rapporteur to iraq (90-99) led dutch GLADIO

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UN human rights rapporteur to iraq (90-99) led dutch GLADIO

Postby hmm » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:47 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2005/10_oktober/15/binnenland/1015_0830_Max_van_der_Stoel_Gladio.xml">rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuw...Gladio.xml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"laatst gewijzigd: 15-10-2005 17:06<br>'Max van der Stoel leidde Gladio'<br>Oud-politicus en minister van Staat Max van der Stoel was de laatste leider van de geheime organisatie Gladio. Dat meldt de Telegraaf uit een zeer betrouwbare bron.<br><br>Verzet<br>Gladio was de supergeheime dienst die het verzet moest leiden als Nederland na de Tweede Wereldoorlog weer bezet zou worden.<br><br>Opgeheven<br>Het bestaan ervan werd in 1992 bekend, daarna werd Gladio door premier Lubbers opgeheven. Wie de dienst toen leidde, is tot nu toe altijd geheim gehouden. "<br><br>The article claims Max van der Stoel was the last person to lead the dutch branch of GLADIO before it was disbanded by prime minister Lubbers in 1992<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nndb.com/people/082/000048935/">www.nndb.com/people/082/000048935/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> " Member of the Dutch Parliament 1960-82<br> Dutch Minister Foreign 1973-7<br> Dutch Minister Foreign 1981-2<br> Dutch Ambassador 1983-6 to the United Nations<br> U.N. Representative for Human rights in Iraq, resigned november 1999<br> Freedom of Speech Medal 1982<br> Star of Romania March 2000"<br><br>Interesting?<br>Max van der Stoel is a well respected, supposedly leftwing politician (he is/was a member of the powerful dutch labour party P.v.d.A) and has been a special advisor to Javier Solana since 2001 (who used to be the secretary general of nato and is slated to become europe's defense minster in 2006).Solana is notable for supporting Colin Powell's February 5, 2003 speech to the UN Security council which claimed that Iraq had WMD's and is a Knight of the Order of St Michael and St George which i find odd for a spanish socialist.. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: UN human rights rapporteur to iraq (90-99) led dutch GLA

Postby Gouda » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:41 pm

Hmmm: <br><br>hmmmm....is that the entire article? My German is not up to par, but it seems a bit skimpy on info. Do you have more info on this gladio link to VDS? I am just interested because I met van der Stoel in Skopje, FYROM. He was there in 2001-2002 in the capacity of honorary human rights envoy for OSCE (which is not mentioned in the NNDB bio) promoting a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>private</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> multi-ethnic University project (The Southeastern European University) - which, by the way, fueled ethnic and class tensions further. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: its dutch not german and yes its skimpy

Postby hmm » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:44 am

on info,<br>but i couldnt find anything in english so didnt really go looking for anything more indepth in dutch,it was all over the dutch media at the weekend,but with little background on gladio itself,gladio is portrayed as a resistance movement/stay behind army and nothing sinister..<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: its dutch not german and yes its skimpy

Postby Gouda » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:36 pm

ah, sorry - i am embarrassed. dutch reads closer to english than german does. for a moment there I thought myself suddenly more proficient in understanding "german" than usual. Obviously not. But I might have a chance with dutch! <br><br>I suppose now that dutch media has been reporting this, it may have a chance of spreading to other euro-networks. we'll see - I'll be interested in keeping an eye on this. <br><br>My impression of VDS, despite being rather decrepit, was that he is also creepy. A gladio connection might help explain more about his policy direction with regard to education in southeastern europe. It's always something financial, sure, but also always something more sinister - and this is a pattern I've been learning more about re: many of big players operating in the balkans, which was a prelude to Iraq II. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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