The night before the Golden Mosque bombing: Two eyewitnesses

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The night before the Golden Mosque bombing: Two eyewitnesses

Postby Iroquois » Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:00 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The night before the bombing: Two eyewitnesses</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2369/11406246188fu.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Samarra_Sunni<br><br>Update: There was one small mistake in the translation, the time line says 6,41 should be 6,45, that’s all.<br><br>The picture above shows Sunnis in Samarra demonstrating and condemning the bombing of the “Golden Dome”, the Imam in picture is a Sunni imam, you can tell from his white turban, Shiia imams wear a black turban.<br><br>I want the readers to know that for Samarra inhabitants, the mosques doesn’t represents a Shiia shrines only but represents the existence of the city also and they are very proud of them, even when the situation went very bad between Sunni and Shiia, Shiia pilgrimages to city never attacked by any group, it’s kind of unwritten code of honor.<br><br>Testimonies of two eyewitnesses near the bombed Dome:<br><br>Witness 1:<br><br>I live in a district very near to the mosque and I will tell you exactly what I saw hours before the bombing.<br><br>There is a daily curfew in our city (Samarra) starts from 8,00 in the evening until 6,00 in the morning, in the night before the bombing and just when it’s getting dark there was unusual activities by the ING in the area around the mosque, I heard their cars the whole night until next day in the morning.<br><br>The Mosque Guards testimony says: Four people with ING uniforms blind folded them and set the bombs.<br><br>The witness continues, so ask I you how could the terrorists enter the area which is usually surrounded by the ING and enter the mosque then runway without being got by the police?.<br><br>Witness 2:<br><br>Witness 2 gives more detailed information and the Americans connection to the events before the bombing, so I made it as timeline of the events.<br><br>My name is Muhammad Al-Samarrai, I own an internet-cafe near the mosque, I sleep in my shop because I am worry about my computers from thieves.<br><br>8,30 (evening) joint forces of Iraqi ING and Americans asked me to stay in the shop and don’t leave the area.<br><br>9,00 (evening) they left the area.<br><br>11,00 (evening) they came back and started to patrol the area until the morning.<br><br>6,00 (next day morning) ING leave the area .<br><br>6,30 Americans leave the area .<br><br>6,40 first explosion.<br><br>6,45 second explosion.<br><br>He confirmed again that the curfew starts at 8,00 (evening) until next day 6,00 (morning), INGs and the Americans will surround and patrol the city all that time.<br><br>URL (includes reader comments): http://www.roadstoiraq.com/?p=723 <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The night before the Golden Mosque bombing: Two eyewitne

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:48 pm

Thanks for that, Iroquois.<br><br>From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/24/iraq.main/index.html">CNN</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>In Basra, the overwhelmingly Shiite city in the south, thousands of people responded to a call by religious leaders for joint Shiite-Sunni prayer services Friday.<br><br>"We Sunnis and Shiites Muslims have been living together in Iraq for thousands of years. We condemn such criminal acts through which they want to divide Iraqis," said Hakim al-Mayahi, a member of Basra's provincial council.<br><br>A similar scene played out in Kut, also in the south, where tens of thousands of Sunnis and Shiites joined together Thursday, carrying the Iraqi flag and finding a common foe: They chanted "No to America!"<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 2/24/06 7:48 pm<br></i>
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Re: exit stage left

Postby Gouda » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:07 pm

The very real solidarity and mutual support that exists in the aftermath, unfortunately, may not get much of a chance from either the left or the right after events are squeezed through the reality-making prism. It just feels like, from what I have been reading, that everyone outside Iraq looking in harbors a desire to see this thing erupt into civil war. It's that 'rebooting' thing again; for some it is delicious <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>schadenfreude</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->; for others, a cynical attempt to cover ass; for other, real news, real excitement, real history; and for others, it was all part of the plan. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200602240003">mediamatters.org/items/200602240003</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Only on Fox: "All-Out Civil War in Iraq: Could It Be a Good Thing?"<br><br>Summary: Fox News featured two onscreen captions during a segment on escalating violence in Iraq that read: " 'Upside' To Civil War?" and "All-Out Civil War in Iraq: Could It Be a Good Thing?"<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> ***<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"The only viable strategy, then, may be to correct (Iraq’s) historical defect and move in stages toward a three-state solution: Kurds in the north, Sunnis in the center and Shiites in the south"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>-- Leslie H. Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations; from "Three-state Solution" NY Times 11-25-03 <br><br>***<br><br>Mike Whitney's summary: <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.palestinechronicle.com/story.php?sid=022306222838">www.palestinechronicle.co...2306222838</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Analysis: Whose Bombs Were They?"<br><br>...Nimmo is not alone in his judgment. Other prominent analysts including, Pepe Escobar, Ghali Hassan, AK Gupta, Dahr Jamail, and Christian Parenti all agree that the Bush administration appears to be inciting civil war as part of an exit strategy.<br>...<br><br>The division of Iraq has been recommended in a number of documents that were prepared for the Defense Department. The Rand Corporation suggested that “Sunni, Shiite and Arab, non-Arab divides should be exploited to exploit the US policy objectives in the Muslim world.” The 2004 study titled “US Strategy in the Muslim World” was to identify key cleavages and fault-lines among sectarian, ethnic, regional, and national lines to assess how these cleavages generate challenges and opportunities for the United States.” (Abdus Sattar Ghazali; thanks Liz Burbank) <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: exit stage left

Postby Gouda » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:13 pm

Forgot this one. Please, let the NYT massage a picture of civil war into your head:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/weekinreview/26weis.html?hp&ex=1140930000&en=2a65044182e129ea&ei=5094&partner=homepage">www.nytimes.com/2006/02/2...r=homepage</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What Civil War Could Look Like<br>By STEVEN R. WEISMAN<br><br>WASHINGTON<br><br>TWO days of mob violence last week after the bombing of a revered Shiite shrine did not simply aggravate Iraq's sectarian hatreds. Like a near-death experience, the carnage seems to have shocked Sunni and Shiite leaders into a new realization of what civil war would cost, and new efforts to avoid it.<br><br>But what happens if such efforts — and frantic ones by Americans — prove incapable of stopping an all-out war? <br><br>...<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Frantic efforts all right. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: exit stage left

Postby Dreams End » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:17 pm

Yes, that's why I always maintain that what's going on now is not "incompetence". They just wanted to bust up Iraq. <br><br>The current looming "civil war" could be used to justify withdrawal of troops ("oh well, we tried, but those crazy Iraqis just don't know how to behave") or to escalate involvement. Particularly if they want to accuse Iran of supporting the Shia to allow the war to escalate on its own rather than coming up with that wmd pretext (though I'm sad to say that my own local paper repeated the "Iran needs to comply" b.s. as if they'd just copied and pasted editorials from before the Iraq invasion.). A "natural" escalation...such as a civil war in which attacks on the American bases figure prominently and are linked to Iran would be the most logical way, if I were an evil Machiavellian warlord, to gain support for the Iran invasion.<br><br>Hope I'm wrong. I usually am, when it comes to predicting specific events in the near term. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Fuck the media

Postby Qutb » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:39 pm

This spontaneous expression of untiy by hundreds of thousands of Shia and Sunni Iraqis in the face of this continued effort to foment a civil war - <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>that</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> should be the news today. <p></p><i></i>
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Woids, Within Woids!!!

Postby Floyd Smoots » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:22 pm

Sly as a FOX, outFOXed, FOXy (oldest definition), FOX 'em all, they're stoopid, "The FOX and the Grapes" (Aesop), FOX "hunters"........y'all get the picture! Too danged many pictures, brought to you by the FOX!!!<br><br>Qutb, if you "have" to use an "F-word", Please, by all means, help youself to one of my favorites, "Frag!!!", as in: To drop a fragmentation grenade into the shorts of one's enemies! None of us here really wants to have sex with these creeps!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>We ALL used to say: "Write your Senators & Congressmen right away!". Now that the "Screaming Minority" of us know that they have all been either bought and paid for, or, threatened within an inch of their miserable, overpaid lives, what then, do we now???<br><br>Old Sad Floyd <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :| --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/indifferent.gif ALT=":|"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Unity over the bombing.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:09 pm

I'd think attacks on significant mosques would unite Iraqis in the same way Americans united around the WTC on 9/11 or attacking black churches in the south solidified the American civil rights movement.<br><br>Adversity eventually results in prioritization and simplification.<br><br>I suspect the intended effects of divisive violence will wear off for Iraqis and they will continue to realize that they just need the damn Americans to be gone.<br><br>However the effect of violence in Iraq on the AMERICAN domestic political scene may be just as much the intended result as some of you have pointed out.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Unity over the bombing.

Postby Byrne » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:42 pm

from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://postmanpatel.blogspot.com/2006/02/samarra-specialist-demolition-minister.html" target="top">postmanpatel.blogspot.com/2006/02/samarra-specialist-demolition-minister.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Published: 2/24/2006 Agence French Press</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The bombing of a revered Shiite shrine containing the tombs of Hazrat Imam Hasan Askari and Imam Ali Naqi and which sparked a wave of violence in Iraq was the work of specialists, Construction Minister Jassem Mohammed Jaafar said on Friday He gave details of the way the explosives had been placed saying that it must have taken at least 12 hours.<br><br>"According to initial reports, the bombing was technically well conceived and could only have been carried out by specialists," the minister told Iraqia state television.<br><br>Jaafar, who toured the devastated thousand-year-old shrine on Thursday a day after the bombing which brought down its golden dome, said "holes were dug into the mausoleum's four main pillars and packed with explosives."<br><br>"Then the charges were connected together and linked to another charge placed just under the dome. The wires were then linked to a detonator which was triggered at a distance," the minister added.<br><br>To drill into the pillars would have taken at least four hours per pillar, he also estimated.<br><br>Damage to the mausoleum, holding the tombs of the 10th and 11th Shiite Imams, was extensive.<br><br>"The dome was completely wrecked and collapsed on the tombs which were covered over by debris. The shrine's foundations were also affected as 40 percent of the power of the blast was directed inwards," he added.<br><br>"It's a historic site, a symbol of Iraqi culture and must be treated as such," he said, adding that he would call on Iraqi officials and on UNESCO to help rebuilt the golden mosque.<br><br>Jaafar said he survived a double bomb attack while returning from Samarra when blasts went off in front of his convoy and behind it.<br><br>AP has reported: "A Western official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, said discussions were under way to rebuild the shrine as quickly as possible because the shattered structure would serve as a "lasting provocation" until it was reconstructed. Italy announced Thursday it was offering to rebuild the dome to help battle "fanaticism."<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Pic.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> The dome was being repaired after previous damage hence the scaffolding which can be seen in post bomb pics but is not mentioned in any mainstream stories.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Unity over the bombing.

Postby Gouda » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:21 pm

Iraqis are doing their best to stick together. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0227/p01s03-woiq.html">www.csmonitor.com/2006/02...-woiq.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>On Saturday night, representatives of militant Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and Sunni clerics from the powerful Muslim Scholars Association prayed together in a televised ceremony from Baghdad's Abu Hanifa mosque, a Sunni landmark. The clerics condemned recent attacks on Shiite and Sunni houses of worship and jointly forbade any actions leading to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>fitnah</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, or strife among Muslims.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> But others, such as the mosque demolition technicians (literal and figurative), see it otherwise. Thus speaks ICG (intel-infiltrated analysts for imperialism):<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"It may well be that things will die down now,'' says Joost Hilterman, who runs the International Crisis Group's (ICG) Middle East Project in Amman, Jordan. "But the structural dynamic still points toward civil war, and the institutions that could restrain it have become severely weakened."<br>...<br><br>A measure of how seriously the threat of all-out civil war is being taken can be found in the recommendations of Monday's ICG report.<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>"The international community, including neighboring states, should start planning for the contingency that Iraq will fall apart, so as to contain the inevitable fallout on regional stability and security."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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UK involvement?

Postby Byrne » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:27 am

Seems to me that these events are the precursor to the likely imminent events in Iran in late March.<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>the <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">inevitable</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> fallout on regional stability and security<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Who says it's <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">inevitable</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->?? The separation of Iraq into provinces appears to be an aim, just as it appears that oil rich <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Khuzestan</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (in Iran) is being targeted by bombing events, with (again) no clear designation of which group is responsible (yep, WE know that it is SAS/black ops & the Iranians are saying the same thing). <br><br>Bombs exploded in the Oil rich province of Khuzestan. <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4754446.stm" target="top">See BBC news report here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bomb blasts hit Iran oil cities </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Iran has been hit by a spate of bombings in recent months <br>Two bombs have exploded in the southern Iranian cities of Dezful and Abadan, according to Iranian reports. <br>In both cities, the devices were planted in the governor's offices, the official Irna news agency says. No serious injuries were reported. <br><br>The attacks are the latest in a series to hit the southern <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Khuzestan province</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, at the heart of Iran's oil industry. <br><br>Eight people died when bombs exploded by a government office and bank in the provincial capital Ahwaz a month ago. <br><br>There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the latest explosions, according to reports. <br><br>"Hopefully, those behind the bombings will soon be found and punished," Dezful Governor-general Hamid Ghanaati told Irna. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'UK involvement'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>The oil-rich Khuzestan province, which is home to about two million ethnic Arabs, has been rocked by a wave of unrest in recent months. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Iran accused British army forces across the border in southern Iraq</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> of co-operating with bombers who carried out January's attacks in Ahwaz. The UK Foreign Office rejected the allegation. <br><br>A little-known ethnic Arab separatist group said in a website statement that it was responsible for the blasts, in which eight people were killed and 46 hurt. <br><br>The Iranian government also blamed attacks in June and October last year on the UK, but British officials again denied involvement. <br><br>In November, protests erupted in Ahwaz after ethnic Arabs accused the authorities of discrimination. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: UK involvement?

Postby Sepka » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:04 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Jaafar, who toured the devastated thousand-year-old shrine <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Something odd... I keep hearing on the news about how ancient this building is, but the ruins are clearly poured concrete, with twisted reinforcing bars sticking out everywhere. I'll wager it's not a hundred years old, if that.<br><br>Edit:<br>I just noticed: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Pic. The dome was being repaired after previous damage hence the scaffolding which can be seen in post bomb pics but is not mentioned in any mainstream stories.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Mea culpa.<br><br><br>-Sepka the Space Weasel <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sepka>Sepka</A> at: 2/28/06 6:06 am<br></i>
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Re: Looks like we'd better stay

Postby Gouda » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:28 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-troops28feb28,0,2017038.story?coll=la-home-headlines">www.latimes.com/news/nati...-headlines</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Iraq Violence Puts Troop Cuts in Doubt - <br><br>The U.S. military needs to decide in coming weeks whether it can recommend an anticipated substantial reduction in force levels.<br><br>By Mark Mazzetti, Times Staff Writer<br>February 28 2006<br><br>WASHINGTON — The recent explosion of violence in Iraq is forcing a debate inside the Pentagon about whether the U.S. military can proceed with plans to cut the number of troops in Iraq, Defense officials said Monday.<br><br>The violence came at a crucial time for the U.S. military: Top generals must decide within weeks whether to carry out a long-anticipated reduction in American troops this summer. Threats of civil war in the country have raised questions about the wisdom of a troop drawdown in the next few months. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"One perspective certainly is that with so much turmoil, how can you possibly think about drawing down at this point?" said a senior Defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->...<br><br>"The president wants to hear it directly from the commanders, so he can get the straight scoop," the senior Defense official said...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Should I stay or should I clandestinely bomb?

Postby Byrne » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:33 am

Iranian reaction to the Bomb blasts in Khuzestan from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0602285533142834.htm" target="top">Islamic republic news Agency Website</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Paper lashes out London's plots against Iranians, Iraqis Tehran, Feb 28, IRNA</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Iran-Editorial-UK <br><br>An Iranian daily on Tuesday commented on recent bomb blasts in two Iranian southern cities accusing London of indulging in terrorist acts in Iranian southern province of Khuzestan. <br><br>"The bomb blasts in the cities of Dezful and Abadan on Monday were undoubtedly the dastardly work of mercenaries operating from British bases across the border in southern Iraq," said 'Kayhan International'. <br><br>It argued that the periodic blasts in Iran indicated that British and American bases "have turned into virtual training camps for terrorists." The editorial further recalled London's colonial interference in Iran during the 19th and 20th centuries. <br><br>Referring to the last month's terrorist blasts in Ahvaz, it said, "The Iranian authorities nabbed some of the British mercenaries who have confessed to the dirty designs of their masters. <br><br>"The ministries of the interior and information have documented evidence of British meddling," said the paper stressing that Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki's recent call for withdrawal of British forces from Iraq, "was a polite diplomatic request" which was "unwisely ignored" by London. <br><br>"The British military forces seem to be living in a fool's paradise if they think they can prolong their uninvited stay in Iraq by indulging in sabotage and terrorism on both sides of the border," stressed the article. <br><br>Warning that the Iranian people "are losing their patience," it said, "Fed up with the increasingly impudent behaviour of the British they are demanding that the interior and intelligence ministries as well as the judiciary make public the files of the British agents nabbed in Khuzestan." <br><br>It further urged the government "to <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>respond soon to the growing public demands</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->," especially after bomb blasts in Dezful and Abadan, "for<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> any delay in disclosing the British involvement is deemed detrimental to national interests and to the interests of the brotherly people of Iraq</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->," the paper stressed. <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Also this article from the same <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0602282499152248.htm" target="top">site</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Occupying forces fueling sectarian conflicts in Iraq: Paper Tehran, Feb 28, IRNA</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Iran-Editorial-Samarra <br>The occupying forces are trying to ignite sectarian and ethnic conflicts in order to dismember the country into mini-states, said an Iranian daily on Tuesday. <br><br>Commenting on the terrorist bombings of the holy shrines of two Shiite Imams in the Iraqi city of Samarra last Wednesday, 'Tehran Times' said the sacrilege was a result of an "unholy alliance" by the US, the Zionist regime of Israel and the terrorists operating in Iraq. <br><br>The editorial argued that the alliance planned the bombing of the holy shrines "in order to justify the continued presence of occupying forces in the country." <br>The daily added that the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>US has changed its approach in Iraq</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and is now trying to create sectarian and ethnic strife in the country <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>as soon as it realized that the democratic process in the war-torn country had not turned out as what they had planned and it had not benefited the US interests</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. <br><br>Referring to the recent comments of the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>US Ambassador</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Zalmay Khalilzad in Iraq, the daily said his remarks and the fact that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>he was claiming a veto right over cabinet appointments indicated that "the United States seeks to prevent the formation of a national government in Iraq by creating chaos in the country."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Khalilzad recently said that the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Iraqi interior, defense, oil, and security affairs ministers must be approved by the U.S</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. and no one opposed to U.S. policy should be allowed to become a minister in the cabinet of Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari. <br><br>"Of course, the Iraqi people, and particularly the religious authorities, are monitoring the suspicious activities of the occupying forces, and they will not allow religious differences to cause the country to break apart," the article stressed. <br><br>It anticipated that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>after the formation of a national government, "the entire Iraqi nation will call for the withdrawal of the occupying forces</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, and then there will be no option left for the foreign troops besides withdrawing from Iraqi territory." <br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>We will see <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=byrne@rigorousintuition>Byrne</A> at: 2/28/06 7:45 am<br></i>
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Re: Should I stay or should I clandestinely bomb?

Postby Byrne » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:53 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Iraqi prime minister visits Turkey, but president doesn't know</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>02/28/2006 15:09 Source: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/28-02-2006/76629-Turkey-0" target="top">Pravda</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <br>The <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Iraqi president</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> on Tuesday <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>blasted</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> the country's <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>prime minister</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for making a visit to Turkey <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>without telling him</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and put the Turkish government on notice that any agreements made during the visit would not be considered valid. By making the internal political spat public, President Jalal Talabani <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>underlined the continuing deep political tensions within the country's ruling political circles</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> even as politicians <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>struggle to form a new government nearly three months after parliamentary elections.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Talabani's statement expressed "surprise" that Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari had journeyed to Turkey "without informing all sides in the Iraqi government" as, the president claimed, was required by law. Talabani said the Transitional Administrative Law, which dictates the work of the interim government, bars it from the "right to conduct talks with other countries which might result in agreements or joint statements or memoranda of understanding that could impose on the permanent (next) government obligations that it might not able to fulfill." Talabani expressed "regret" over the al-Jaafari visit and said "the government is not obliged to adhere to any agreement that the prime minister might make with Turkey , with which we are keen to have the best relations on the basis of law and neighborly goodwill", reports the AP. <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the "right to conduct talks with other countries which might result in agreements or joint statements or memoranda of understanding that could impose on the permanent (next) government obligations that it might not able to fulfill."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> i.e. obligations that the US Occupiers don't like...........<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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