US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her family

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US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her family

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:41 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>And note the regiment. Was the abduction and execution of the soldiers retaliation?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>U.S. troops accused of killing Iraq family</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>BEIJI, Iraq - Five U.S. Army soldiers are being investigated for allegedly raping a young woman, then killing her and three members of her family in Iraq, a U.S. military official told The Associated Press on Friday.<br><br>The soldiers also allegedly burned the body of the woman they are accused of raping.<br><br>Maj. Gen. James D. Thurman, commander of coalition troops in Baghdad, had ordered a criminal investigation into the alleged killing of a family of four in Mahmoudiya, south of Baghdad, the U.S. command said. It did not elaborate.<br><br>"The entire investigation will encompass everything that could have happened that evening. We're not releasing any specifics of an ongoing investigation," said military spokesman Maj. Todd Breasseale.<br><br>"There is no indication what led soldiers to this home. The investigation just cracked open. We're just beginning to dig into the details."<br><br>However, a U.S. official close to the investigation said <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>at least one of the soldiers, all assigned to the 502nd Infantry Regiment, has admitted his role</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and has been arrested. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Two soldiers from the same regiment were slain this month when they were kidnapped</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> at a checkpoint near Youssifiyah.<br><br>At least four other soldiers have had their weapons taken away and are confined to Forward Operating Base Mahmoudiyah south of Baghdad. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.<br><br>The official said the killings appear to be unrelated to the kidnappings but that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>a soldier felt compelled to report the killings after his fellow soldiers' bodies were found</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br>The killings appeared to have been a "crime of opportunity," the official said. The soldiers had not been attacked by insurgents but had noticed the woman on previous patrols.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060630/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_soldiers_investigated">news.yahoo.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her fami

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:19 pm

When is this rape supposed to have occurred? Before the kidnapping of the American soldier?<br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The killings appeared to have been a "crime of opportunity," the official said. The soldiers had not been attacked by insurgents <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>but had noticed the woman on previous patrols</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>This would be not a "crime of opportunity", it is premeditated rape and murder. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her fami

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:21 pm

Watch, one of these days, these kinds of murders are going to result in the death penalty for a few of them. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby chiggerbit » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:16 pm

Can the army still try anyone who has been discharged?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fapnews.myway.com%2Farticle%2F20060630%2FD8IIP52O0.html">rawstory.com/showarticle....P52O0.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"....However, a U.S. official close to the investigation said <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>at least one of the soldiers, all assigned to the 502nd Infantry Regiment, has admitted his role and been arrested.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Two soldiers from the same regiment were slain this month when they were kidnapped at a checkpoint near Youssifiyah.<br><br>The official told the AP the accused soldiers were from the same platoon as the two slain soldiers. The military has said one and possibly both of the slain soldiers were tortured and beheaded.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The official said the mutilation of the slain soldiers stirred feelings of guilt and led at least one of them to reveal the rape-slaying on June 22.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br>According to a senior Army official, the alleged incident was first revealed by a soldier during a routine counseling-type session. The official, who requested anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, said that soldier did not witness the incident but heard about it.<br><br>A second soldier, who also was not involved, said he overhead soldiers conspiring to commit the crimes, and then later saw bloodstains on their clothes, the official said.<br><br>He also said the four people killed included three adults and a child, and one of the adults was the woman who allegedly was raped.<br><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>One of the accused soldiers already has been discharged and is believed to be in the United States</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, several U.S. officials said on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. The others have had their weapons taken away and are confined to Forward Operating Base Mahmoudiyah....."<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 6/30/06 7:27 pm<br></i>
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Re: US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her fami

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:53 pm

While this combat commander accuses the media for our losing the war in Iraq, I find myself wondering the opposite--how much blame for atrocities such as Haiditha and the recent investigation of possible rape and murder by American soldiers can be laid at the feet of the media and military structure's failure to inform our soldiers that something has changed and they will now finally be held accountable for these crimes, regardless of how corrupt this administration is. SOMEBODY needs to bring these soldiers up to date.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060630/pl_afp/usiraqmilitary&printer=1;_ylt=AhkGTGHBrpaNnKhrhgatYhatOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-">news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2006...NlYwN0bWE-</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"A US combat commander suggested the United States could lose the war in Iraq if public support for it at home is sapped by negative media coverage................." <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 6/30/06 8:56 pm<br></i>
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Re: US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her fami

Postby greencrow0 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:59 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Crime of opportunity<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>A lame and pathetic attempt to minimize the crime and blame the victim. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Col Quisp » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:07 am

The media is quick to say there is no connection between the two events (beheadings and rape/murders). How do they know? I think it was biblical eye-for-eye justice. It is sickening. There is no excuse. Those dudes better watch their steps over there. They're messing around with totally different cultures of which they have no idea. Walmart bred f*tards. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: US troops accused of raping woman and murdering her fami

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:50 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060701/D8IJ59F00.html">rawstory.com/showarticle....59F00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"Investigators believe a group of U.S. soldiers suspected of raping an Iraqi woman, then killing her and three members of her family<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> plotted the attack for nearly a week</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, a U.S. military official said Saturday.......<br><br>"........The Americans entered the Sunni Arab's family home, separated three males from the woman, raped her and burned her body using a flammable liquid in a cover-up attempt, a military official close to the investigation said. The three males were also slain. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The soldiers had studied their victims for about a week and the attack was "totally premeditated," the official said on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The family had just moved into the home in the insurgent-riddled area around Mahmoudiya, 20 miles south of Baghdad. ,,,,:<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 7/1/06 6:50 pm<br></i>
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Postby jc » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:37 pm

thought i'd add this:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Published on Sunday, January 25, 2004 by the Denver Post<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Female GIs Report Rapes in Iraq War<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->37 seek aid after alleging sex assaults by U.S. soldiers<br>by Miles Moffeit and Amy Herdy<br> <br>Female troops serving in the Iraq war are reporting an insidious enemy in their own camps: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>fellow American soldiers who sexually assault them</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br>At least 37 female service members have sought sexual-trauma counseling and other assistance from civilian rape crisis organizations after returning from war duty in Iraq, Kuwait and other overseas stations, The Denver Post has learned. The women, ranging from enlisted soldiers to officers, have reported poor medical treatment, lack of counseling and incomplete criminal investigations by military officials. Some say they were threatened with punishment after reporting assaults.<br><br>The Pentagon did not respond to repeated requests for information about the number of sexual assault reports during the conflict. Defense officials would say only that they will not tolerate sexual assault in their ranks…<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0125-08.htm">www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0125-08.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby StarmanSkye » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:03 pm

"Defense officials would say only that they will not tolerate sexual assault in their ranks… "<br><br>JesUz CriSco ...<br>A form of denial the current crop of PTB have elevated to an art form ... Shown undeniable evidence of some awful pattern of crime and cover-up and abuses, the Usual Suspects' typical response is, "Along with the Bush Administration and all other Government agencies and officials, we absolutely condemn and do not tolerate such action or behavior at all."<br><br>The one-week scheming for the rape and murder suggests the climate of rampant violence and gratuitous lawlessness for US soldiers in Iraq was so endemic that they felt emboldened in never being questioned or held to account for such a premeditated act. This also suggests a cultivated rascism that regards Iraqis' as of having little or no value and no rights at all -- THAT'S the intrinsic reality of what the US has delivered to Iraq. Given the long-term genocide from insidious DU poisoning the Iraqi gene pool and environment, US policy is certainly showing consistency with a long dishonorable tradition of warcrimes justified as 'serving' noble ends.<br><br>What facile apologists for neo-fascism the lapdog press and polico warmongers have become -- are they really ignorant of what foul evil they are endorsing and facilitating?<br><br>Bastards, all of 'em.<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Postby The Omega Man » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:15 pm

Gonna be a great time when psychotic and government sanctioned assholes like this make their way back here. These recent revelations are only the tip of the war criminal iceberg. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: jc

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:23 pm

<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Female troops serving in the Iraq war are reporting an insidious enemy in their own camps: fellow American soldiers who sexually assault them.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>What <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>IN GOD"S NAME</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is going on? Literally, what in God's name?. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Omega Man

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:26 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>These recent revelations are only the tip of the war criminal iceberg.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Exactly, TOM, this is unlikely the first time these kinds of crimes have happened, just the first time the perps have been caught. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 7/1/06 9:27 pm<br></i>
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Re: The Omega Man

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:41 am

General Winder, in charge of the infamous Civil War Andersonville prisoner of war camp, is supposed to have said, as he bowed his head in prayer at the 1865 New Year's meal, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"My faith is in Christ; I expect to be saved. Wirz, cut down the Yankee's rations,"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and then promptly died. You have to read about Andersonville to understand the horrendous framework. My gut tells me that my country's karma is stuck on hold, repeating, repeating, repeating.<br><br>Check out the photo at this site (scroll down) to understand what it meant to " cut down the Yankee's rations" in 1865.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USACWandersonville.htm">www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...nville.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 7/1/06 10:49 pm<br></i>
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some officer said way they were tortured was "unnatural

Postby yesferatu » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:22 am

Excuse me.<br>That is just another "genocide-with-plausible-deniability-of-genocidal-intention"<br>way of saying "we get to kill them because, see? they are not human like us." <br>It is sanctimonious spin. Do I endorse the retribution?<br>That is the trouble with making the argument as a "for" or "against" castrated-penis-in-mouth-stuffings.<br>The officer, a castrated dick himself, stuffed in the mouth of a tortured corpse media says "unnatural".<br>Again....ex-fucking-cuse me.<br>I think minding your fucking business, and suddenly being invaded and occupied by a foreign (foreign culture, language, skin, religion, fucking foreign everything) army which has no intent of leaving you to the life you lived prior....raping and pillaging, and CULLING those around you (giving you the conviction that you are to be culled in some manner as well), seeing them literally rape a girl in your neighborhood, kill her, kill her family, burn the girls body....seeing that ON TOP OF <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>everything else</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->......now <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>THAT</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is fucking unnatural.<br>Again the "for it" strawman argument anyone wants to judge me with and bring to me, let me say I will stuff it right in the strawman's mouth.<br>Those unable to place themselves in the shoes, the lives, the misery, and the mind-snapping shock of seeing one atrocity too many...those we call neocon fasists. I call them republicans.<br>They are unable to comprehend THEIR own darkness. Since they are too obtuse to place themselves in the situation, I will say to them imagine this reversed....you are still you, in your shoes. Point for point, the situation is played out in your country, and point for point in this as well, the girl and her family down the street - with all it's attending overflow and biled backup of 3 years of vile atrocities upon your country and yourself and now this!!! What say you, republican????????!!!!!!<br>"I would report it to the nearest officer of the occupying, raping army and mind my own ever-so-decent business, and let it go."<br><br>Good fucking god.<br> <br> <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=yesferatu@rigorousintuition>yesferatu</A> at: 7/2/06 12:43 pm<br></i>
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