Mad Cow Prod article on Jack Abramoff and 9/11 hijackers!

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Mad Cow Prod article on Jack Abramoff and 9/11 hijackers!

Postby FourthBase » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:55 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/06202005.html">www.madcowprod.com/06202005.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>A must read <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mad Cow Prod article on Jack Abramoff and 9/11 hijackers

Postby RebelYell » Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:00 am

No one ever seems to be interested in Hopsicker. I don't understand why not. He's the only person investigating Florida and 9.11.<br><br>I read the article. Interesting. Thanks. <p></p><i></i>
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im watching

Postby human » Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:22 am

i follow Hopsickers investigation....<br><br>Dave Emory shows him love....<br><br>& Fintan Dunne....<br><br>but some of the loudest folks out seem to ignore him...<br><br>on purpose? methinks.<br><br>one<br>human?<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Hopsicker

Postby zangtang » Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:33 pm

i'm a fan - plan to get a copy of his 'barry and the boys' soon as funds etc... <p></p><i></i>
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Postby albion » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:48 pm

hopsicker is amazing.<br><br>the texas observer recently had a good piece about abramoff and grover norquist:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Pimping of the President<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Jack Abramoff and Grover Norquist Billing Clients for Face Time with G.W. Bush<br><br>BY LOU DUBOSE </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle_new.asp?ArticleID=13">www.texasobserver.org/sho...ticleID=13</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby albion » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:48 am

interesting that hopsicker mentioned chief james billie and the seminole since the stuff in the abramoff hearings centers mostly around the choctaw. still, i think this might be of interest by way of general background. an excerpt from <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Merger: The Conglomeration of International Organized Crime</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, by Jeffrey Robinson:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>America's first high-stakes Native American gambling parlor belonged to the tiny Seminole tribe in south Florida. Born in 1979 as a bingo hall in Hollywood, not far from Fort Lauderdale, it was such an instant success that the tribe soon challenged the state ban on gambling by installing video poker and video slot machines. Everything lay in their claim of sovereignty. The courts upheld it, and today the Seminoles operate a bunch of casinos, turning over around half a billion dollars a year. Pretax profits are apparently about $120 million a year, which is the same as after-tax profits, because the tribes don't pay tax.<br><br>The floodgates having opened, there are now nearly two hundred tribes in twenty-eight states sharing in the $5 billion Indian reservation gambling boom. But gambling is one of those industries that attracts strange bedfellows, and the idea of Indian sovereignty being a back door into legalized gambling has not gone unnoticed by a whole slew of strange bedfellows.<br><br>According to the California Department of Justice, one of the Seminoles' early partners was linked to Sebastian Larocca's crime family in Pittsburgh, who, in turn, was linked to the Genoveses. It now appears that some of the seed money for that first bingo hall may have come from people controlling Meyer Lansky's funds. Though this was categorically denied for years by the Seminoles, Chief James Billie finally acknowledged in 1999, "There might be some semblance of truth" there.<br><br>The man in the middle is said to have been the late Stephen Hennington Whilden, a Harvard-trained Nixon White House Lawyer who was general counsel to the Seminoles when they first brought in gambling. He is said to have been the one who set up the meetings with the Lansky people. He is said to have been the one who first realized that the Indians were sitting on this fabulous asset called sovereignty. Hie line was, tribes reserve sovereignty except where it is expressly abrogated, and therefore the tribes can do things on their land because they are a sovereign nation.<br><br>"Wherever you've got jurisdictional confusion," notes Alexis Johnson, a New Mexico attorney who has been one of the most vocal opponents of Indian reservation gambling, "you get 'the guys' surfacing. They understand how confusion works for them, how chaos is their friend. The government can't figure out what the straight line is on how to bust these guys, so they don't get busted. These are not poor Indians running casinos across the country, these are mobbed-up Indians."<br><br>"Indians are cover," insists Johnson. "Indians are a geopolitically significant description. Cross out Seminole. Cross out Mohawk. Just talk about stuff. What Indians resemble is transnational stuff. Geopolitical stuff. What do they look like? They look like tax havens. They look like the on-shoring of an offshore concept. They look like law enforcement breakdowns and we know, axiomatically, they involve jurisdictional conundrum and jurisdictional confusion. Most tribal leaders aren't as smart as the real bad guys, although there seem to be some. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Look at the political liaisons, and the lobbying and the lawyering, that's how the deals get brokered</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. There is always a non-Indian involved somewhere."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>also, this site seems to be covering the abramoff hearings fairly closely:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jewish Whistleblower</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Accountability and transparency within our institutions and leadership.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/">jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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re: More on Abramoff's ties to Indian Gaming loot ...

Postby Starman » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:13 am

More on Abramoff's sterling character in a recent Washington post article (gettin' slammed? GOOD!):<br><br>But it's SUCH a tip of the iceberg of dirty deals and crooked courts, payoffs and rackets and abuse of power, as we know. Still, it's heartening to see one of the once-high-n-mighty 'blessed ones' brought low ...<br>Let's hope Delay can't squirm or bribe himself out of his present predicament, and that even further revelations of his taking 'liberties' with the law and his public position are revealed. These guys don't even try to avoid the semblance of doing something crooked.<br>Starman<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062200921_pf.html">www.washingtonpost.com/wp...21_pf.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Panel Says Abramoff Laundered Tribal Funds<br><br>--excerpt--<br>Lobbyist Jack Abramoff used money from a Mississippi tribal client to set up bogus Christian anti-gambling groups and to fund pet projects including gear for a "sniper school" in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, according to documents released yesterday by Senate investigators.<br><br>The revelations came in e-mails and testimony made public yesterday by the Senate Indian Affairs Committee at its third hearing on the activities of Abramoff and Michael Scanlon, a public relations executive and former spokesman for House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.).<br><br>Abramoff, who is also at the center of a corruption investigation by the Justice Department, laundered tribal money by directing the Indians to donate to tax-exempt groups that the lobbyist later used for his own purposes, the Senate committee said. One project involved Abramoff's effort to arrange for military equipment, including night-vision goggles and a "jeep," for the sniper training conducted by a high school friend.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: More on Abramoff's ties to Indian Gaming loot ...

Postby wolf pauli » Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:08 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Still, it's heartening to see one of the once-high-n-mighty 'blessed ones' brought low ..</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>And heartening to see he's not planning to go down to perdition alone ...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7446492/site/newsweek/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7446.../newsweek/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>With Friends Like These...<br><br>"... "Those S.O.B.s," Abramoff said last week about DeLay and his staffers, according to his luncheon companion. "DeLay knew everything. He knew all the details." ..."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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the sniper training stuff is funny...

Postby glubglubglub » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:57 pm

unless he was planning on using human targets (my cynicism pegs when I see sniper and west bank in the same paragraph) there's not much he couldn't have done out in some deserted field (which he could buy for peanuts and turn into a wannabe-rambo playground for not much more...it's funny to think of an oldster like him running through tires on the ground, climbing walls bootcamp style, etc.)...<br><br>The stuff about indian reservations is quite true; because they have sovereign nation status of sorts they're great domestic shelters for all kinds of shady enterprises...and because of the uncertain legal nature there it's relatively harder for some investigative journalist to head over and start asking questions, too: their on-reservation methods of handling things may differ considerably from the norms in non-reservation USA. <p></p><i></i>
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abramoff & south african nazis

Postby albion » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:15 pm

ooh, almost forgot. laura rozen had a summary of abramoff's 1980's involvement with the intelligence & propaganda arm of the apartheid south african government:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Along those lines, it's worth revisiting an extraordinary July 16, 1995 Newsday article by Dele Olojede and Tim Phelps, Front for Apartheid: Washington-based think tank said to be part of ruse to prolong power. It's about a "think tank," the International Freedom Foundation (IFF), set up in 1986, that Abramoff helped run, that turned out to have been created and financed by the apartheid era South African defense forces. Its purpose? To improve the apartheid government's image in the West, and demonize its opponents, the African National Congress and Nelson Mandela, as communist stooges.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/001865.html">www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/001865.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>apparently one product of this relationship was a b-flick starring dolph lundgren, "red scorpion." from the imdb:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He's a human killing machine. Taught to stalk. Trained to kill. Programmed to destroy. He's played by their rules... Until now.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt0098180/">imdb.com/title/tt0098180/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>jeez... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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