Flight 93 site weirdness

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Flight 93 site weirdness

Postby Asta » Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:42 pm

Yesterday I visited the crash site of Flight 93 for the second time.<br><br>(Aside: The first time I went - which was more than 2 years ago - I was overcome by the screaming I heard in my head, and I had an anxiety attack which felt like a heart attack, and had to leave shortly after taking only a few photos, which turned out to be of quality. Sadly, after I printed out these photos, my camera's compact flash fried, and I lost the originals. I scanned in the printouts and archived them.<br><br>Let me clarify something about the "screaming". We got lost trying to find the site, it is in the boondocks and the maps are all wrong...but the closer we got, the worse the sounds in my head became. It was like playing that game of "hot and cold". Finally I said, Turn HERE! for no good reason other than my paniked feelings, and we found ourselves on the road to the site.)<br><br>This second visit was different -- the panic was subdued, I only felt a very odd dizziness and light-headedness. Which was a big improvement over the first visit. This time I could focus on what was going on, despite feeling nauseated. <br><br>BUT the weirdness I am talking about is the following:<br><br>I was taking photos of the (overwhelmingly growing) memorial site with my new Canon A85 (with new batteries) when I was approached by a woman who asked, "Is your camera digital?" I said, "Yes." <br><br>She said, "My camera won't take pictures. Do you think you can help me?"<br><br>I looked at her camera and she had the same model. She went on to tell me that she had gotten it for Mother's Day, and had taken pictures just the day before of her grandchild. But the problem was, she could not get the camera to go back to "Live mode". All it would do was show the last photo of her granddaughter on the LCD screen. Since my camera was just like hers, I thought I could help her.<br><br>We fooled with that blasted gadget for 30 minutes. We took the batteries out, put in a new group of batteries, turned off the unit, turned it back on,... nothing worked. The image of the baby remained on the screen. We were both about to cry. I apologized for not being able to help her, and she sighed, leaving with, "Thank you for your kindness, I guess it's a good thing I brought along an old 35mm, it will work." <br><br>So I went back to my picture taking...and my camera would not work.<br><br>In fact, out of the 30 some-odd shots I took, when I went back to check on my "inventory", only the photos I took of the make-shift memorial were on the camera memory disc, none of the shots of the actual crash site were there. When I took the photos of the crash site, I had confirmation of the photos, but when I went back to "view", they were not there.<br><br>I hope I am using the right terminology to explain what happened. My camera had new batteries, too. When we left the site and were about 5 miles away, my camera began working again. <br><br>This is really freaking me out. WTF is going on? <br><br>Is the site haunted or is there some kind of electrical interference going on that can affect digital equipment and sensitive humans alike? Any thoughts?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Flight 93 crash site weirdness

Postby Starman » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:37 pm

Heyia Asta;<br><br>Sure some high strange happenings; I dunno what the purpose would be to block digital-photography by means of some kind of microwave energy field if regular film cameras could still work -- But a strong microwave field could cause the aural screams you experienced -- perhaps an unintended effect of something else, or mayhaps a spiritual/psychic-energy phenomenon? I dunno, but intriguing.<br><br>I did a quick google search and found the following brief reference -- there may be more deeper-in or with revised search terms re: 'Flight 93 crash site strange'<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://photos1.ghostweb.com/tmcm1.html">photos1.ghostweb.com/tmcm1.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>This ghost photo was sent by Tom McMillen of ka3uvl@floodcity.net.<br><br>Tom said, "I never went to the crash site in Shanksville, Pa., although I only live 30 minutes away. This day I decided to go. You are not allowed near the crash site. Although where the memorial is, you can tell the place of impact real easy. The place of the crash is very saddening, even late at night. I swear I could smell burning jet fuel and hear light screams. To me, I will never forget that feeling."<br><br>Dr. Dave's Notes:<br>Many people have experience strange feelings at this crash site. We include a chapter on this crash site in our book, America's Haunings Volume Two: Restless Spirits Across America. <br><br><br><br>*****<br>Thanks for the comment.<br>Cheers -n- Luck!<br>Starman<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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haunted

Postby maggrwaggr » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:38 am

I've experienced similar phenomena at haunted places. <br><br>I know what you mean about the screaming in your head -- one of the worst experiences I've ever had was when I was shooting in an old abandoned hospital, and I was wandering around and decided to check out a certain room. As I entered, I had a similar experience to yours -- as I realized it was an old surgery room -- and it was as if many people had died there, in agony, while being operated on. It was a godawful experience -- it was as if time slowed down, to me, as I got deeper into the room and the silent screaming sensation in my head got louder. <br><br>I got the fuck out of there and never went back.<br><br>That place must be haunted as all hell.<br><br>On some bluffs just above Halfmoon Bay California there is a site that is one of the most haunted places I've ever been to. I was working on a film there, and the camera kept breaking down for no reason. Very nice camera, Panavision. Later I went back with a friend and her Polaroid and we took some shots that had what I can only describe as photos of some sort of electromagnetic plasma-like images floating around us. I'm a photography expert, so I know the real deal when I see it, and these were utterly unexplainable. <br><br>Anyone been to ground zero in NYC? I can only imagine that place must be just as powerfully haunted.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: haunted

Postby GDN01 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:58 am

I mentioned in a post several months ago that I had experienced strange things happening with my digital camera when I tried to take some photos in a cemetary. It was on auto focus, new batteries, and good light - and the camera would not focus on objects that were very clear with contrast and definition. I've never had this problem anywhere else.<br>It was as if something was there that was interfering with the focus - something I couldn't see. And then the photos I did get had some strange things in them. <br><br>I do believe digital cams go haywire when there are unusual energies in the air - be they ghosts or whatever.<br><br>I worked at Ground Zero in the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attacks and more than one person I spoke with mentioned the lingering presence of ghosts. I felt them too. Several months later a group actually performed a "release", encouraging all the lost souls who had not found their way to go on to the next world. I don't know if there is any documentation of this happening anywhere - but I had met someone who was going to participate and she told me about it and asked me to go with her. I couldn't bring myself to go back at the time. <p></p><i></i>
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Cameras

Postby Avalon » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:36 pm

I briefly visited Ground Zero a year ago. Not that much to see, the area was mostly surrounded by large opaque wooden panels. Lots of tourists strolling around, and the mood seemed to be a mixture of both solemn and ordinary vibes. Didn't feel any presence of those who might still be lingering. I suspect there might be more done for them on the aetheric level than at the other sites.<br><br>Remember that if you are going to a site that has a reputation for messing with electronics, a disposable camera will be non-mechanical as long as you are not depending on the flash.<br><br>If you are visitng a place which does odd things to cameras, it might be interesting to rig up an improvised <br>steroescopic camera (3D, remember the Viewmaster you had as a kid) using two disposable cameras taped together with the centers of the lenses on the same plane and separated by 2.5 inches, the distance between your eyes.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://phillips.personal.nccu.edu.tw/3d/student3d.html">phillips.personal.nccu.ed...ent3d.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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