Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:59 pm

[Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job Attack Was 'Coup d'etat,' Buildings Were Demolished By Controlled Demolitions Prison Planet | June 27 2005 Former MI5 agent David Shayler, who previously blew the whistle on the British government paying Al Qaeda $200,000 to carry out political assassinations, has gone on the record with his conviction that 9/11 was an inside job meant to bring about a permanent state of emergency in America and pave the way for the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and ultimately Iran and Syria. David Shayler joined MI5 in October 1991 and worked there for five years. He started at F Branch (counter-subversion) in January 1992, and worked in T Branch (Irish terrorism) from August 1992 until October 1994. He left the organization in 1996. Shayler appeared on The Alex Jones Show to kick off what will be a wider public campaign to educate the public on 9/11 issues and government corruption. Shayler again risked jail by speaking out. The British government has a legal gag preventing him from speaking about his work during his MI5 tenure. Since what Shayler discussed was already on the public record (a consequence of which was his imprisonment on two separate occasions), he now feels safer in stepping back out into the limelight. Shayler delved into his past investigations and the evidence that led some within MI5 to conclude that the Israelis bombed their own London embassy in July 1994. Shayler said that the Israelis framed two Palestinians who remain in jail to this day. "The same thing has happened with two Palestinians who were convicted of conspiracy to cause the attack on the Israeli Embassy in Britain in 1994 but MI5 didn't disclose two documents which indicated their innocence. One document indicated another group had carried out the attack and the other document was the belief of an MI5 officer that the Israelis had actually bombed their own embassy and allowed a controlled explosion to try and get better security and these documents were never shown to the trial judge let alone the defense." Shayler said that his suspicions were first aroused about 9/11 when the usual route of crime scene investigation was impeded when the debris was immediately seized and shipped off to China. "It is in fact a criminal offence to interfere with a crime scene and yet in the case of 9/11 all the metal from the buildings is shipped out to China, there are no forensications done on that metal. Now that to me suggests they never wanted anybody to look at that metal because it was not going to provide the evidence they wanted to show people that it was Al-Qaeda." Shayler then went on to dismiss the incompetence theory. "The more I look at it, you realize that it's not incompetence. There were FBI officers all over the country, Colleen Rowley is obviously the one who managed to get a congressional hearing, but there was plenty of evidence certainly." "There are so many questions that need to be answered, protocols being overridden within national defense, people actively being stopped from carrying out investigations. This wasn't an accident, they were aware there was intelligence indicating those kind of attacks, there were FBI intercepts saying it in the days before the attacks. When you look at it all, that is a big big intelligence picture and yet these people were crucially stopped from doing their jobs, stopped from trying to protect the American people." Shayler elaborated by saying the evidence suggests the attack was originally meant to be much wider in scope and was an attempt at a violent coup intended to decapitate the entire government as a pretext for martial law. "So you're looking at a situation in which you almost have a coup de'tat because you've got to bear in mind that there were weapons discovered on planes that didn't take off on 9/11. Now people have obviously postulated that they were going perhaps to attack the White House, Capitol Hill. That looks to me like an attempt to destroy American government and declare a state of emergency, in fact a coup de'tat, a violent coup de'tat." "There are so very many questions about this and you realize again that none of the enquiries ever get to the bottom of any of these things, they don't take all the evidence, they don't often take any evidence under oath when they should be taking it under oath." Shayler was forthright in his assertion that the attack was planned and executed within the jurisdiction of the military-industrial complex. "They let it happen, they made it happen to create a trigger to be able to allow the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq and of course what they're trying to do now is the same thing with the invasion of Iran and Syria." Shayler ended by questioning the highly suspicious nature of the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7, the first buildings in history, all in the same day, to collapse from so-called fire damage alone. "I've seen the results of terroristic explosions and so on and no terrorist explosion has ever brought down a building. When the IRA put something like a thousands tonnes of home-made explosives in front of the Baltic Exchange building in Bishopsgate and let off the bomb, all the glass came out, the building shook a bit but there was no question about the building falling down and it doesn't obey the laws of physics for buildings to fall down in the way the World Trade Center came down. So you have the comparison of the two, Building 7 compared with the north and south towers coming down and those two things are exactly the same, they were demolished." David Shayler joins a spate of recent credible whistleblowers who share the same sentiments about the real story behind 9/11. Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds publicly questioned the unexplained collapse of WTC Building 7 earlier this month. In addition, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts, shared his concerns last week when he said the Bush Administration were making the same mistakes as the Nazis when they invaded Russia in the dead of Winter. Roberts seriously doubts the official explanation behind 9/11. Click here ( <a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/270605shaylerclip.mp3">www.prisonplanet.com/audi...erclip.mp3</a> ) for a clip in which Shayler discusses 9/11. Prison Planet.tv subscribers can listen to the whole hour long interview by clicking here. Shayler also discusses his investigations of Irish Republican terrorism which led back to the British government and the murder of Princess Diana. <a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...idejob.htm</a>

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:44 pm

Dr De I posted this at DU and was not well recived. THANX for post and its so interesting how many of the former insiders have recurring themes of elite privlege,arrogance, tomfoolery,cover-up.. life is a theme park.may the elites end up in jurassic park without the jeeps!!

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:56 am

> I posted this at DU and was not well recived. LMAO. Well you are not allowed to use the word MIHOP anymore <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> I always find it interesting that there is a part of the former insiders which will leak eventually like this guy, so I have some faith in humanity left. There is a small group which will tell the truth once they are out of the octopus. Indeed life is a theme park. Maybe reincarnation does exist and they'll end up being reincarnation as ants. Life for an ant is very difficult, since there from their view there are moving mountains which will squash them unknowingly. That's even more frightening than a ride through Jurassic Park in an open Jeep.

by **FourthBase** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:54 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Well you are not allowed to use the word MIHOP anymore<hr></blockquote> You've got to be shitting me.

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:50 am

>> Well you are not allowed to use the word MIHOP anymore > You've got to be shitting me. I am exagerating a bit, but I've noticed that there have been some changes since 7/7 and that includes DU, but it also includes newspapers like The Guardian. Upto now there was a lot of free speech in that newspaper, but suddenly they are starting to fall in line again and DU and Dailykos going in the same direction. If you look at the London Bombings, you'll notice that team8plus, prisonersplanet, whatreallyhappened and rense have taken the lead in the investigations. Since rense and alex jones are already weird sources (especially rense) it has made it very easy for the opponents of the conspiracy theorists to disqualify the efforts made. We see a similar thing happening in the Democratic Party right now. Even though it is too early to say anything about it, it seems like the hardcore liberals like Conyers are being ignored within the party and the Hillary Clinton and the DLC start pushing the party to the right. ( See: <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-30.htm">www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-30.htm</a> and <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm">www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm</a> ) Even though the 2004 elections were won using fraud to skew the results towards Bush it is doubtful whether they can do that for 2008, because you can only skew upto 5% or so. Given the poor performance of the Bush administration and the growing critism there is some worry that the Bush cabal cannot continue in 2008. So what is called for is moving the Democratic Party to the right in order for the administration of 2008 to continue with the plans set out by the Bush administration. Hillary Clinton is already talking about more troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and things like withdrawal not be discussed as far as DLC/Clinton is concerned. The above story is not paranoia, but more the skew to the right which is taking place. So a story about the MIHOP of 9/11 from a dubious web source (Alex Jones) is ofcourse invalidated without looking at the contexts and the multitude of similar stories. Please don't take it as a critism of DU, because they are free to do what they like and it doesn't concern me. It just means that my frame of mind is different from the overall frame of mind, hence my posting at other forums right now where there are people who are more thinking along the lines I do. Just my 2 cents

by **dbeach** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:58 am

DU has list of banned sites and frowned upon sites which is censorship at the very least..DU also does not tolerate the 9/11 truthies and usually shouts em down with crys of tin foil and nut jobs... My biased opinion is that many wait for CNN MSNBC ABC CBS for the news which is usually just more of the govt propaganda.. clintons are in on the gig..see photos of poppy o and billy bob dialing for dollars for tsnumai relief fund.. which you give either of these privleged ones..your money?? right wing ..left wing..2 broken wings of the same fascist party with dems like clinton and kerry who needs enemies?? [i do confess to voting for kerry..mea culpa mea culpa..}

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:53 am

> clintons are in on the gig..see photos of poppy o and billy bob dialing for dollars for tsnumai relief fund.. Definitely. Bill Clinton came out of nowhere and suddenly made his grand introduction at the Bilderberg. And you know what happens when an outsider is suddenly introduced at Bilderberg... they tend to become the presidential candidate ... (go put on your tinfoil hat) > right wing ..left wing..2 broken wings of the same fascist party > i do confess to voting for kerry..mea culpa mea culpa.. Don't go blame yourself. You had no choice. Kerry was the only option available and it was a better solution than voting for Bush. Cobb and Badnarik (I know he is pretty right winged, but his idea of implementing a constitutional government is a wet dream. It'll never happen because it'll break the foundation of the lobby groups) were not an option and will probably never become an option unless there is a huge change in public opinion which is unlikely since the majority of people are sheeple who can't think for themselves and are being fed the propaganda. The thing I'm a bit afraid of is that they'll pull another Kerry and nominate Hillary (which is many times worse than Kerry IMO). There are still some good people. I guess there are 5 or so in the Republican Party which is close to nothing (that whole party is rotten to the core). The Democrats probably have about 100 which is a minority as well. So the likelyhood of one of them being push ahead is small. Let's hope for a miracle. Conyers for President LMAO It's time for the first black President...

by **rain** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:07 am

or something like that. Dr. Nick Begich Earthpulse Press P.O. Box 201393 Anchorage, Alaska 99520 Fax 907-696-1277 June 19, 2001 Dear Earthpulse Friends: On Tuesday, June 26, The History Channel will air a one-hour History's Mysteries segment called Alaska's Bermuda Triangle. It explores the disappearance of my father, Congressman Nick Begich, Sr., and the late Majority leader of the U.S. House of Representatives, Hale Boggs of Louisiana. The plane they were traveling in disappeared on a flight from Anchorage to Juneau on Oct. 16, 1972. The most massive air search ever undertaken in the history of the world did not find any trace of the plane. This was just weeks before the Watergate story. Inquiries about CIA misuse of power were being made and a number of other significant international questions were being addressed in Washington. The story is being incorporated into a book I am finishing called Earth Rising II - The Betrayal of Science, Society and the Soul. Twenty years later, in 1992, a Freedom of Information Act Request by Roll Call Magazine unearthed an FBI telex indicating that the plane was located and never retrieved. Information obtained by a government verified source described the location of the plane and stated that there were two survivors shortly after the plane disappeared. The information indicated an undisclosed "firm" involved in testing advanced surveillance equipment had located the crash. The informant had a military background, according to the FBI document obtained by Roll Call. The FBI telex was sent to the Washington, D.C. FBI headquarters where it was presumably passed to the Acting Director, L. Patrick Gray. The previous director, J. Edgar Hoover, had been in a significant conflict with Boggs, who called for his resignation on the floor of the Congress. Boggs was one of the most powerful people in the country at a time when misuse of power was just beginning to be seen, culminating in the resignation of the President of the United States Richard Nixon. A good deal remains untold from this period of the country's history and perhaps my father's story being released will compel someone to come forward with the rest of the story. Some of the other interesting points surrounding the disappearance include the fact that Boggs was taken to the airport for the first leg of the trip by a young democrat named Bill Clinton who later, as President, appointed Congressman Boggs' wife Lindy to the position of US Ambassador to the Vatican after she served eighteen years in the Congress after her husband's disappearance. Congressman Boggs was also on the Warren Commission and had some interest in reopening the investigation. My father had just completed his first Congressional term and as a freshman had engineered the biggest cash and land transfer to native Americans in the history of the United States, over 44 million acres and nearly $1 billion was transferred. This transfer and "settlement" was needed for establishing a clear title for the right-of-way of the Trans-Alaska pipeline which was then built supplying 25% of US oil for much of the time since its completion. Things seem to run in cycles and it is interesting when I look at my family's work in Alaska and the work which we are doing now as a result of these early encounters with government. I had always suspected that there was more to my father's death than was revealed in past years. Time does reveal the truth and it seems that conspiracies can appear to be fact through strange coincidence or may actually be of sinister design. Sometimes it is difficult to determine which it is.. We have posted the FBI documents and part of the story on our website: www.earthpulse.com Always the Best, Nick <a href="http://www.earthpulse.com/products/Disappearance/letter20010619.html">www.earthpulse.com/produc...10619.html</a>

by **dbeach** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:08 pm

"Time does reveal the truth and it seems that conspiracies can appear to be fact through strange coincidence or may actually be of sinister design" THANX for this psot..another TRAGEDY ..Most likely inflicted upon these reps cuz the secret govt determinded thema threat WHADDS DA BIG SECRET?? Hey many more believe that the govt killed JFK and has been covering it sense with more killings and assassinations There are few accidental plane crashes! I wonder if Ike went to the dentist or met with the aliens..?? Excuse me but I seeen some of dem dere unexplained phenomenons myself and have a witness.. the USAF is the last ones to discover that UFOs exist

by **maggrwaggr** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:01 pm

Finally got my copy of "Loose Change". It was the nail in the coffin as far as convincing me that the WTC towers, all of them, were brought down intentionally. I was on the fence about the Twin Towers. But after seeing David Ray Griffin speak on the subject, and seeing "Loose Change", it now becomes blindingly obvious that the Twin Towers were brought down by a systematic demolition. Those who insist that it wasn't are either in denial, are ill-informed, or were in on the plot. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> That's how obvious it is if you look at all the evidence. "Loose Change" is the first account I've seen that shows the systematic explosions in the corners of the Twin Towers as the buildings collapse, explosions that lead the collapse by 15 -20 floors or so. Also the film provides a multitude of first-hand accounts of witnesses, including firemen, who saw and reported plenty of explosions before the buildings collapsed. And, last but certainly not least, the substructure of the building, the basement, was bombed into rubble BEFORE the buildings collapsed. Plenty of witnesses to that, as well. There is no doubt in my mind anymore. And I used to be a person who vehemently pooh-poohed the "controlled demolition" folks. Just goes to show you how the events of that day, and the days that followed, engrained it into people's heads the official story. Brilliant Psy-ops.

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:16 pm

I haven't seen Loose Change, but I agree with you about the controlled demolition. I am a believer of the remote controlled airplane theory (including the plane swap <a href="http://www.team8plus.org/news.php">www.team8plus.org/news.php</a> ) and the missile fired into the Pentagon. But it takes time to figure things out. > And I used to be a person who vehemently pooh-poohed the "controlled demolition" folks. Just goes to show you how the events of that day, and the days that followed, engrained it into people's heads the official story. Brilliant Psy-ops. I remember the first time I've heard about the missile hitting the Pentagon. It was on The Fifth Estate. That was a very good psyops documentary, because they gave some good stuff like the George Sr-bin Laden meeting on 9/11 and more. But they ridiculed the story about the missile. And then they put Thierry Meyssan forward as the originator of the idea. And he gave a terrible interview, he didn't sound convincing at all. And then "all the experts" agreed that it couldn't possibly have been a missile. So I believed the official story for at least 6 months after watching that documentary... until I started to research the subject... Guess, what Thierry made a lot of sense and News Corp (Rupert Murdoch) did a wonderful job invalidating his theory. And still it's being invalidated. A huge jet made a hole two windows wide. Yeah right...

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"things seem to run in cycles..."

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