George Shultz's imperialist buddy in the 9/11 Truth Movement

by **Qutb** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:22 am

those that have attended Garrison's State of the World Forums, as are David Rockefeller and James Baker. And, for that matter, Jesse Jackson. And, as mentioned above, Bush, Thatcher, Shultz, Brzezisnki. Now, what's a co-organizer of events that gather such dignitaries doing in the 9/11 Truth Movement? <a href="http://www.pvbr.com/Issue_1/faithnfreedom.htm" target="top">From</a> a slightly paranoid and vehemently anti-environmentalist report from the Crisis Magazine/Catholic World Report: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In the week preceding the six billionth birth, world glitterati, Nobel laureates, religious celebrities, United Nations ideologues, ivy league professors, psychics and international entrepreneurs gathered at the State of the World Forum to decry the western worldview responsible for the earth's impending doom. Western worldview is a code phrase for Christian order. A new order is proposed by luminaries who no longer shrink from using the once conspiratorial phrase, New World Order. The Forum was the fifth annual gathering at San Francisco's posh Fairmont Hotel [(the United Nations Charter was drafted there in 1945)] where participants paid $5,000 for six days anti-Christian, anti-Western indoctrination at the hands of the world's "brain trust." Past and present speakers at the Forum include: George Bush (Bush's use of the term NWO during the Gulf war emboldened others) Margaret Thatcher, James A. Baker, III, Nobel Peace Laureate, Oscar Arias, defrocked Dominican New Ager, Matthew Fox, psychic Jean Houston, Desmond Tutu, futurist John Naisbitt, Carl Sagan, Chairman of Congregation of Religious Orders, USA, Sr . Joan Chittister, Jesse Jackson, Deepak Chopra, alternative medicine star, Andrew Weil, Queen Noor of Jordan, Earth Council president, Maurice Strong, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, primatologist, Jane Goodall, Lee Butler, former commander of Strategic Air Command, Yashuhiro Nakasone and Shirley McClain . These members of the "brain trust" were joined by US senators and business leaders (David Rockefeller, Steve Kirsch, CEO of Infoseek), Nobel laureates, spiritual gurus, indigenous peoples' representatives and world class scientists. World peace, a UN army, nuclear disarmament, and ecology rounded out the six day agenda, but the centerpiece was a the call for a "new world spirit" which recognizes the "unity of the human family" and the necessity of a world federation to keep peace in the family. A roster of the world's heaviest weights cannot be quickly dismissed as posturing professors and aging mystics- their hands control the levers of finance, education, entertainment, business, and science. The Forum, which seeks to set "priorities, values and actions necessary to guide the human community into the coming century" and fosters a "new code of human responsibility," ( the Ten Commandments no longer apply) is a project of the Gorbachev Foundation.<hr></blockquote> Remember Sarfatti's statement about the Gorbachev Foundation (in bold in my original post). As always, one should follow the money, and this is where that leads, according to Mary Jo Anderson of Crisis Magazine: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The Gorbachev Foundation, a think tank billed as an "educational foundation dedicated to addressing the challenges of and articulating new priorities for the post-Cold War world" has made its American home at San Francisco's Presidio, a former Navy base, transformed into a campus for sustainability education. Three million dollars in seed money from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Pew and Mellon Funds, launched Gorbachev's return from retirement. The Gorbachev Foundation's companion environmental organization is Green Cross International, instituted in 1993, at a "time of global crisis…in which the very elements that sustain life are threatened…[Green Cross was founded ] to create a shift in our thinking, to transform our environment, to sustain our world." Promoting a "bill of rights for the earth" the chairman of Chernobyl finds no incongruity in reciting his litany of environmental transformation.<hr></blockquote> Garrison is mentioned: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Attendees mingled happily among the rich and powerful. Most admitted they had not paid the hefty $5,000 registration fee. Forum president, Jim Garrison, conceded that only one fourth of the 800+registrants had paid, "We want openness, what we are about is transparent and we invite participation by a diverse group of people. We bring people here on fellowships," said the co-founder of the defunct Christic Institute. No orthodox Jewish, Christian or Muslim representatives were in attendance. Garrison resisted the idea that the $5,000 fee was a means of screening out conservatives since no such group had received a "fellowship." Equally as curious was the media blackout-with the rich and famous five bodies deep, where were the cameras? More than one observer suggested it was an attempt to "be transparent in the dark."<hr></blockquote> It may be too paranoid, but considering the funding sources, and the general wrongness as alluded to by starroute, I'm inclined to agree with Ms Anderson's conclusion: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Gorbachev's concern for nuclear arms control and sustainable development prompted a turn to theopolitics as a means to combat what he identifies as a "global crisis of spirit": "It is my view that the individual's attitude toward nature must become one of the principal criteria for ensuring the maintenance of morality…Honoring diversity and honoring the earth creates the basis for the genuine unity." Once these values are codified in international law transgressors of the new dogma will be "punished without fail." A kinder, gentler totalitarianism. <hr></blockquote> Gorbachev is known to be a Theosophist and is also claimed to be a Maitreya enthusiast (by "Maitreya's diplomat", Wayne Peterson). <blockquote>Quote:<hr> The key to understanding World Goodwill and similar groups' passionate work on behalf of the Earth Charter is their zeal for one world spirituality and a one world government; both causes are advanced by the Earth Charter. Oneness of consciousness is the goal--a global, integral thought process for mother earth. A plenary session of the State of the World Forum entitled "The Implications of the New Physics on Science and Spirituality" gave rise to discussions of the physics of consciousness, a belief that human mental energy, properly focused, possesses the power to propel evolution to the final stage-providing man can be herded into GroupThink. Hence the massive push toward one government and one spirituality wherein the great mass of mankind will think in sync on behalf of the planet. Proponents believe a harmonious global spirituality is the key to evolutionary perfection. In their construct, any belief system which thwarts this harmony is a threat to man's ultimate perfection. Christianity "interrupted" man's relationship, expressed through pagan and nature religions, with the earth which is his source and sustenance. Neo-Paganism, thus, is dressed up as a rediscovery of man's original spirituality, unmarred by "religion."<hr></blockquote> Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **robertdreed** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:54 am

I've about had it up to my ears with this Madame Blavatsky, Col. J.F.C. Fuller, Albert Pike, Manly P. Hall jive...toss every mythological tradition known in a blender, add in a dollop or three of discredited "lost civilization" lore, spin up some confabulated mock religious history, dose heavily with colorful semiotics and archetypal symbolism, add the aura of profundity and the aroma of sanctity, and guzzle until your brains fall out your head... just gimme some truth. Even if the only offense of the Globalist Liberals is Fatuity, that's sufficient for the hard-liners of the Opposition to take the game. (Oh yeah, these jet-setters don't believe in the existence of the Opposition. )

by **Dreams End** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:25 am

Oh, so the Gorbachev foundation is based at the PRESIDIO? Nice. Aquino not mentioned, I see. It's funny that Qutb brought up Maitreya (evidently Gorbachev is a fan.) I was actually going to post about Maitreya as one of those..."it sure looks like a big global plot that just dies on the vine." Consider, Creme said Maitreya was to make his official, "I'm da man" revelations way back in 1982. He took out expensive ads all over the place. The moment was picking up steam and drawing in some very heavy hitters. Then...nothing. This would mean nothing at all, except that some pretty high level people were involved. And yet, nothing came of it. Now, what is that about? Does all this stuff simply suggest that people who run governments and, really, the world, are just more naive than the average person? Yet, if you follow the connections (Like Rockefeller's money for the GF as well as numerous New Age interests, such as UFO's and Crop Circles) it seems as if there is more going on...but the results seem like very little "bang for the buck." Or take UFO's...please (rimshot). Vallee wrote about all these significant cases he'd researched that were not only very sophisticated hoaxes but tracked by to government agencies. I lost my copy of Deadly Deceptions, but it was fascinating. The only explanation he could come up with is that intelligence agencies were mucking around with a way to create an atmosphere for some sort of fascist rule. ("The aliens have arrived, nobody panic, we're in charge.") But these government controlled hoaxes have been going on for decades. Where is the big event? The "big event" never comes. Not Maitreya, not the UFO takeover (or the big, official government revelation that they pretend they are going to make). These plots are elaborate, sophisticated, reach the highest levels...and seem to serve little purpose. Maybe there is a plan for a "one world government and one world religion" but this plot just drags on and on for decades and, other than a rather mush-mouthed syncretism that bothers rdr intellectually simply on its own merits (or lack thereof), I don't really see a point. Even proldic's idea that it promotes quietism, while I think that makes sense, seems like an insufficient explanation for all of these elaborate machinations. You wouldn't even need to change people's religion to do that. Just promote currents within the dominant religion (Christianity, in the case of the US) which promote this line of thinking. Why a need to introduce new religious concepts? Now, it is also clear that Nazi/fascist types are usually mixed up in this stuff. Blavatsky's teachings certainly were used by the Nazis in Germany, and we mentioned the Silver Shirts. George Adamski was one of the most celebrated UFO contactees WAY BACK IN THE 50's. He contacted "nordics" in fact, from Venus, I believe. He also got interest from government circles if I recall. Adamski, of course, was connected to the Silver Shirts. So, naturally, when people are seeing "Nordics" today, I get nervous. And whatever the truth of the "Nordic" in this story, clearly Adamski's was NOT from Venus. It's rather hot there: Mostly cloudy with a high in the mid 200's or something like that. So, either he made it up (and his fake looking UFO photos suggest this to me) or the contactors were simply glomming on to a story they thought he might believe. Now, if he was making it up...what do we make of the fact that this very significant UFO case under discussion and numerous other "contactee" cases involve these Nordic types? Are they all lying? Are they all delusional but tapping into a Nordic archetype. Given Jung's flirtation with fascism...are we even comfortable with THAT suggestion? so we have a paradigm begun way back in the fifties of contacts with aliens from somewhere speaking to neo-Nazi types and the aliens happen to have that special "Aryan" appearance. This discredits them, in my eyes, and yet, the contacts continue with people who seem to have no such agenda. I know I'm rambling, but it's just frustrating. It just doesn't make any sense...there's enough "evidence" to prove it's a longrunning hoax and I think enough evidence to prove pretty much the OPPOSITE, as well. I think the blind men and the elephant analogy is a good one. And I'm pretty sure which part I'm groping at the moment. Sigh.

by **robertdreed** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:01 pm

a rather mush-mouthed syncretism that bothers rdr intellectually simply on its own merits (or lack thereof) I'm groping for what the attraction is...I think that part of it is that the liberal humanist elites have decided that all religious traditions- especially the monotheistic ones- are cartoonish superstitions relied on obstinately by the hoi polloi, and if only they can produce a better, higher-tech, more colorful cartoon with unanimous mass appeal, the "problem" of religious belief will be solved, or at least diverted to a harmless outlet. Bye, bye, baby...out with the bathwater...materialist humanism is weird to me. I think agnostic questioning is inherent to the religion I practice, but I don't get being too hip for God. I think that the Luciferians are by and large well-intentioned...their folly is vanity, that's all. But that's a fatal flaw. Because the Satanic impulse isn't to be rendered harmless by brilliance, talent, intelligence, scientific inventiveness, athletic skill, kinesthetic grace, or any of the rest of the Luciferian razzle dazzle. Lucifer is just a trick or ho to be exploited, according to the undiluted will to power that Satanism signifies. On encountering a being or society that doesn't feel the duty to defend divine principles of moral law in times of crisis, the Satanic impulse angles to exercise absolute power. Lucifer is a talented dancer. But Satan is the entity with the .45 in their hand pointed at the dancer's feet, saying "oh, you do that real pretty. Now dance for me." Bang, bang. Who's going to take away that license to kill? I think that the elites do have access to indications that non-human Higher Intelligence is signalling human consciousness at this point in our planetary history, and they're trying to prepare the rest of humanity for that contact- as well as themselves. But the patronizing games they play to "prepare" the masses are part and parcel of their own folly- the conceit of being "dialed-in elites." They need to check themselves, you know what I mean? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 8/24/05 10:20 am

by **heyjt** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:06 pm

Imagine no religion.. It's easy if you try.. Nothing to live or die for- Above us only sky.. It seems to me that this disparate group at the Gorbechev Foundation meetings may not be trying to install world religion, but rather an anti-religion. Looking at the damage someone like Pat Robertson perpetrates with his Christian money I can't say I blame them. I guess I believe some form of spiritual enlightenment and environmental awareness is necessary to save the damned planet. Just not one that is as dogmatic as the various Fundementalist religions of today. The thing that creeps me out about the names listed at the meetings is that people like George Bush senior were guest speakers. That is an indication of a corrupt agenda for sure.. I recently read "The Aquarian Conspiracy" by Marylin Ferguson. These are clearly the people she was talking about in "the open conspiracy".

by **Dreams End** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:15 pm

Yeah, I remember reading Aquarian Conspiracy and thought she was just talking about places like Findhorn. If I had known that Bush's and Rockefellers were part of her conspiracy, I would have gotten my money back!

by **Qutb** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:48 pm

Dreams, you express exactly the thoughts I have around all this. What's the point? The Lucis Trust's World Goodwill has been in existence since 1932 or thereabouts, yet the world isn't any closer to accept a "one world religion" today than it was back then, if that's their goal. As for Maitreya, it seems to be an experiment that was abandoned, though I think they forgot to tell Benjamin Creme <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> Since the election of W in 2000, this whole UN-linked Gaia one-world spirituality thing seems to be abandoned too. It has been replaced by the "War on Terror". I wonder if the "elites", whoever they may be, at some point decided to go for American Empire in lieu of UN World Government (if that was ever really a plan). Significantly, the neo-cons used to be pro-UN, around the time of the collapse of the USSR. Irving Kristol wrote editorials in the Wall Street Journal calling for world government, and the circle around the National Interest (Kissinger, Kristol etc.) were world federalists. Then sometime in the late 90s, they (opportunistically?) joined the anti-UN unilateralists on the right-wing in PNAC etc. Brzezinski wrote his "Grand Chessboard" around the same time. Much of this, to me, has the air of research or experimentation. How do different segments of society react to different stimuli. What can you get people to believe, how can you change the way people think, mold perceptions and so on. For all I know, maybe the results are ultimately used in the advertising business or in political campaigns. Maybe that's it - there will never be a "big event". Maybe this stuff is being used against us every day, by our corporate and political and cultural overlords. Maybe we slid into fascism long ago, without noticing. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=qutb>Qutb</A> at: 8/24/05 11:04 am

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